matvail2002 803 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Ontario 1990: The unexpected win by Bob Rae and the NPD against the Liberals. Ontario 1995: An epic win by Mike Harris and the PC, with a Common Sense Revolution platform. Gimli 2009: A fictional country based on RL Sweden, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands and Iceland located in current Manitoba. Nouvelle-France 2009: A provincial election based on my Samania scenario. PEI 2007: A big win by the Liberals leaded by Robert Ghiz. Link to post Share on other sites
Caper08 32 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 PEI 2007: A big win by the Liberals leaded by Joseph Ghiz. I would like to see a PEI election, but Joe Ghiz died in 1996, its his son, Robert Ghiz who is the current Liberal premier. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Had to choose between the 2 tied. So chose PEI, since it has not been featured in any scenario, the province. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'd rather see the "common-sense revolution" than PEI. The problem with most of the maritime provinces is that their politics are basically tweedledee and tweedledum, since the PC and Liberals are, in the words of a Canadian textbook I read "two parties but identical governments." Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Yes, you're right. First of all (especially in PEI), provincial elections are like municipal elections (so, this can be quite boring) with bread and butter issues. Basically, we have two centrist parties with the Red Tory PC and the not-so-left-wing Liberals. In Québec, in the 90's Ontario and maybe BC elections are much more interesting and polarized. The Common Sense Revolution platform election of 1995 was problably one of the most important election in the last 30 years in Ontario and this with a 20 billion dollars deficit and an NDP gouvernment with a 8% approval rating. Basically, this was even more of a surprise than the 1994 US legislative election. We have a PC which is like the US Republican Party, a centrist party (the Liberals) and a Socialist Party turned right-wing later in their mandate. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 If there's no one left to vote and it remains a tie, then transfer my vote to Ontario 1990, please. Link to post Share on other sites
Kauai 0 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I voted Gimli 2009. Fictional scenarios are always fun. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Ok, I will leave it until friday. If there is no change, I will do Ontario 1990. Link to post Share on other sites
mz452 18 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I voted for Gimli as well. However, in the event of a tie, I suggest you do PEI. many ontario scenarios have been made and none have been made for prince edward island. lets see something new. Link to post Share on other sites
mz452 18 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Also, Prince Edward Island should be fairly easy to make. Five parties (Lib, PC, NDP, Grn, Ind), and 27 ridings. Here is a map that you could use that has each region the riding. It would be great if it was represented like that in the game. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Pei2007.PNG Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I already have a very good PEI map, however I am searching for the parties logo and leaders portraits. Also, the last PEI election was pretty one-sided, so I don't think that this will do quite a good scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
mz452 18 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I already have a very good PEI map, however I am searching for the parties logo and leaders portraits. Also, the last PEI election was pretty one-sided, so I don't think that this will do quite a good scenario. It was one sided yes, but it had a popular Premier go against a popular son of a former premier. It was expected to be much closer than it actually was so I still think its interesting, and if I have to, I am changing my vote to PEI. Link to post Share on other sites
mz452 18 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I already have a very good PEI map, however I am searching for the parties logo and leaders portraits. Also, the last PEI election was pretty one-sided, so I don't think that this will do quite a good scenario. It was one sided yes, but it had a popular Premier go against a popular son of a former premier. It was expected to be much closer than it actually was so I still think its interesting, and if I have to, I am changing my vote to PEI. Link to post Share on other sites
graemp 9 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If you are accepting write-ins Matvail, I would like to see Quebec 1970 completed, along with the other Quebec scenarios you started. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Ok, I will try to do three elections with a release date at about the same time: -Gimli 2009 (Fictional election on the German C4E and probably to fastest to finish) -Ontario 1990 (I will need logos for all parties) -PEI 2007 Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Ok, I will try to do three elections with a release date at about the same time: Same here. I meant to say, the fictional one seems an interesting mix, i can help you find the logos for 1990 Ontario if you wish. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Yes, I would like it very much with the leaders pictures. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Yes, I would like it very much with the leaders pictures. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good news! Gimli is about 65-70% done. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yes, I would like it very much with the leaders pictures. This is unfinished, i'll the get the NDP and PC ones tomorrow. Are they any other party logos/candidates you need apart from the 3 main parties in this scenario? PC Logo As for the Liberal logo, there's 2 from the 80's i found, i'm not sure if the 1993 election logo was used 3 years back, it seems more modern. Could be mid-80's. Featured along with Peterson as Premier, perhaps when he won. Also, might a specific Ontario Liberal logo? 1988 election badge logo. Peterson Bob Rae Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Every candidate and party will be in the game as like in Saskguy unfinished 2003 scenario to add maximum realism. I must say that I live in Ontario so I know quite a lot about Ontarian provincial politics. I will also need the Family Coalition Party COR (Confederation of Regions) Party Also if possible (because I already have the 2003 logo): Green Libertarian Freedom Communist Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Do you have a picture of Mike Harris in 1990? I have one from 1995 but not from his first election. These were the leaders in 1990 of minor parties, however I don't think that any pictures are available: Family Coalition Party: Donald Pennell Confederation of Regions Party: Dean Wasson Green: Katherine Mathewson Libertarian: James Stock Freedom: Robert Metz Communist: Elizabeth Rowley Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Ok, I will try to do three elections with a release date at about the same time:-Gimli 2009 (Fictional election on the German C4E and probably to fastest to finish) -Ontario 1990 (I will need logos for all parties) -PEI 2007 I can actually help you with Gimli! Mind if I get started on it? Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Do you have a picture of Mike Harris in 1990? I have one from 1995 but not from his first election.These were the leaders in 1990 of minor parties, however I don't think that any pictures are available: Family Coalition Party: Donald Pennell Confederation of Regions Party: Dean Wasson Green: Katherine Mathewson Libertarian: James Stock Freedom: Robert Metz Communist: Elizabeth Rowley I can't for the life of me, find any photos of Mike Harris circa 1990. I think i found the 1995 one you've mentioned: Logos i've found: Would be the NDP logo circa 1990. All the Ontario NDP ones look recent, but feel free to use one of them instead. An older version of the Family Coalition logo, circa 1999, couldn't any others. Confederation of Regions Party Logo Don't know if you have this one, looks 90's to me. Couldn't find any alternative Libertarian or Communist logos. Candidates i could find or not find: Donald Pennell - Found something, but looks like a recent photo. Dean Wasson - Nothing Katherine Mathewson - Nothing James Stock - Nothing Robert Metz - Yes! Found an unclear photo of him circa 1986 or 1987. Elizabeth Rowley - Yes, but a recent photo Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Ok, thanks, I will use the current logos for the Communist and Libertarian party. Which standings should I use at the beginning of the elections? I know that the Liberals were in advance in the polls at the beginning of the campaign, but I think that if I put the Liberals too strong that will win at each time against the NDP, especially that the NDP election came from a BIG protest vote especially in certain regions in Ontario. For exemple, some regions had a high swing to the NDP, such as Southwestern Ontario and some regions such as Eastern Ontario had quite low NDP scores due to the high francophone population. Link to post Share on other sites
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