Kanamit 0 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I meant that PA tightened as election day went on in 2004, going from a substantial Kerry lead to a margin of just two points. I'm not saying that Obama will only win by two points, just that the media probably won't call PA until they're absolutely sure of the winner. Link to post Share on other sites
Abe Lincoln 9 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 1948 Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricMonk 3 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 1948 Please. many pollsters were so confident of Dewey's victory that they simply stopped polling voters weeks before the election, and thus missed a last-minute surge of support for the Democrats. Also, while one can take issue with many separate polling organizations, as an aggregate they do pretty good. Unlike the exit polls, the final polling results for 2004 correctly predicted a narrow Bush victory. With the outstanding example of New Hampshire this year aside, they've done pretty well as a group for the 2008 primary campaign as well. Link to post Share on other sites
VoteGOP 490 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I still think it'll be closer then the polls indicate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricMonk 3 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I still think it'll be closer then the polls indicate. Sure, I agree with you and I'm not saying McCain can't win (although it's rather unlikely). But 1948 was a colossal screw-up by both the entire polling industry and Governor Dewey himself and it happened, let us not forget, 60 years ago when polling—comparatively—was is in its infancy. If the polls get this wrong… it will make what happened in the UK in 1992 in the polling outfits look like a mild case of indigestion (and they made huge, sweeping, changes because of that). Link to post Share on other sites
Kauai 0 Posted November 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 1948 You are just so stubborn. We'll let the results take care of that for you. A. Dewey campaigned 16 times cause he expected the Presideny. B. Truman campaigned somewhere around 360 times. Your comparing polling now and then? A Pathetic defense. Link to post Share on other sites
MRomney08 0 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Obama wins decisively, 329-209. Popular vote 52-47% McCain carries Ohio, Indiana, and North Carolina for swings. Obama gets Florida, Missouri, Nevada, Colorado, Virginia, and wins big in Pennsylvania. Link to post Share on other sites
VoteGOP 490 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Congrats Barack. Good luck and God bless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricMonk 3 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 353 to 185 It appears I was wrong about Indiana and have an outside chance about being wrong on Missouri and/or North Carolina (both of which remain too close to call for all networks, while Indiana is too close to call for some networks). Nevertheless, congratulations President-elect Obama. Link to post Share on other sites
VoteGOP 490 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Despite all the partisan fighting we've all had over these months we should all get together and support our new president and wish him luck in steering our country back on track. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kanamit 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I was wrong about MO and ND... a little over optimistic, but not bad. Link to post Share on other sites
heat332 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 AMEN!!!!!!! (that was to GOP) Link to post Share on other sites
directd 0 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Well now that the official results are in can we please get rid of 1 if not both of the far right parties? Both Nader and McKinney finished with much higher vote totals than either of the 2 far right parties included in the game. I never really understood what rational was used to include them in the first place: Nader and the Greens always had the highest vote totals among 3rd parties in the previous 2 elections. Link to post Share on other sites
VoteGOP 490 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 The libertarians are far from far-right. They should stay. And you need to get your facts straight. Both Barr and Baldwin had more votes then Mckinney. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_US_Election#Grand_total 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdie 2 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 A lot of people do consider Libertarians far-right. Yes, even socially in some cases. Link to post Share on other sites
VoteGOP 490 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I've always thought of them as right leaning. But thats beside the point as both paries he attacked got more votes then Mckinney. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Abe Lincoln 9 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 The Libertarians are deffinatly not far-right. Many support abortion, they are against the war in Iraq, ect. Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 0 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Economically, the LIbertarians are fringe. But there's no reason to delete them from the game - though Baldwin can go, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdie 2 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The Libertarians are deffinatly not far-right. Many support abortion, they are against the war in Iraq, ect.Not quite. Many Libertarians I've met can easily be viewed as far-right. They believe in 'international banker' (read: Jewish) conspiracies, etc. They also tend to be fundamentalist Christians. (Same with many Objectivists despite Ayn Rand's stringent atheism)Much like the Republicans and Democrats, the Libertarians are a big tent. Libertarians can range from Bill Maher to Bob Barr to Bo Gritz. Link to post Share on other sites
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