matvail2002 803 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 As you may know, there will be a general election in New Zealand on the 8th of november. I am wondering if somebody is interested to do a scenario this in continuation of the ''other'' New Zealand scenario for PM4E. Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 366 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I might be, but I'd suggest C4E for modern NZ elections, as New Zealand uses the MMP system used in Germany and, in variant form, in the Scottish, Welsh, and NI regional legislatures. But I colud add it to my list if you and/or others want to help. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I can help too, though I'm instead working on fictional merger between Australia and New Zealand set somewhere in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Being a NZ-er I can help with this project in the issues, constituencies etc. Just not actual coding, which I have absolutely no experience at whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Basically if you want to work around the FPP system I have to suggest that this be turned into an alternate-history scenario which presumes the defeat of the MMP referendum in 1993. Under FPP there would be 100 directly elected constituency MP's That being said there would be around 6 parties with current parliamentary seats and a realistic chance at returning to parliament. The Labour Party (centre-left) (30-45%) (30-50 seats), National Party (centre-right) (40-55%) (35-55 seats), Progressive Alliance (Left- Coalition of Green Parties, 'Old' Labourites and Socialists) (10-20%) (2-15 seats), New Zealand Future (10-15%) (2-15 seats) Centre- Combination of New Zealand First and United Future), Mauri Pacific Party (Ethnic Based with Right and Left tendencies) (3-10%) (1-8 seats), Association of Consumers and Taxpayers(ACT) Party (Libertian) (1-8%) (1-5 seats) "The Big Two" The New Zealand Labour Party Funds: 2,000,000 How Established: 5 Led by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Prime_M...elen_Clark1.jpg The Right Honourable Helen Clark Leadership: 4 Integrity: 3 Experience: 5 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 4 Issue Familiarity: 5 Debating: 4 Blurb: After taking the Prime Ministerial office in the aftermath of the 1996 election with the help of New Zealand Future. Helen Clark has led New Zealand through 4 consecutive terms. Her victory in 2005 was a razor-thin one, but despite this she has done what very few leaders have been able to do, win 4 terms in government. Can Clark play up the economic crisis and her considerable experience to win a legendary 5th term? Or will the mood for change be too sweeping? Alternative leaders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Michael_Cullen.jpg Dr. Michael Cullen Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 4 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 3 Issue Familiarity: 5 Debating: 4 Blurb: Dr. Michael Cullen has served in the Cabinet under the Clark-led government for 4 consecutive terms. He has gained both experience and issue familiarity in his varied portfolio. He has served as the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence and his latest role as Finance Minister has been mostly praised as a time of long-term planning. However, despite his formidable experience, Cullen struggles with the public perception of him as a weak leader, can he overcome this and take take the Labour Party through a 5th term? Phil Goff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NewZeal...PhilGoff_01.jpg Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 4 Issue Familiarity: 4 Debating: 3 Blurb: Phil Goff has won praise for his role in creating the New Zealand-China Free Trade Agreement. With this historic achievement safely under his belt, can Goff take on a resurgent National Party and the mood for change to win a 5th Labout Term? The New Zealand National Party Led by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:John_Ke...onal_Party2.jpg John Key Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 4 Issue Familiarity: 4 Debating: 3 Blurb: John Key has been largely successful at rebranding the National Party as a 'centrist' party. His relative newcomer status in parliamentary politics grants him some amount of trust from the public and the media have taken a liking to his 'magnetic charisma.' Can he use these assets and take what some critics have called 'Labour-lite' all the way to victory in the November 8 election? Or will John Key become another one-term National Party leader? Alternative Leaders: Bill English Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 4 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 3 Issue Familiarity: 4 Debating: 3 Blurb: Bill English has served for a long-time in Parliament, however, he presided over a landslide defeat in the 2002 General Election when National barely won 20% of the vote. Can he redeem himself and win National a term in government? Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 "The Kingmakers" The Progressive Alliance Party Funds: $600,000 How Established: 3 Party Goal: Win at least 6 seats and 10% share of the vote. The Progressive Alliance Party is a loose coalition of enivronmentalists, 'old' labourites and full blooded socialists. They hold 3 electoral strongholds which effectively guarantee a return to parliament and remain competivie in 17 others. There are 3 co-leaders for the Progressive Alliance Party, representing the 3 tendencies. Green Tendency: Jeanette Fitzsimons Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 4 Issue Familiarity: 4 Debating: 3 Seat Held: Coromandel Blurb: Fitzsimons won Coromandel in the 1999 General Election and has managed to hold it since. Having managed to win a seat has given her leadership profile within the Progressive Alliance and she represents the Green Tendency. Will her passion for the Environment win over many voters? Old Labour Tendency: Jim Anderton Leadership: 4 Integrity: 3 Experience: 4 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 3 Issue Familiarity: 3 Debating: 3 Seat Held: Wigram Blurb: Jim Anderton has been the longest serving Progressive Alliance minister and recently served as the Deputy Prime Minister in the 3rd Labour Government. The Progressive Alliance Party however, was cast aside after the 2005 election and the Progressive Alliane was once again thrown out of the halls of power. Can Jim draw on his formidable experience and take his 'the strenght to care' message all the way to Parliament? Old Labour Tendency: Laila Harre Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Stamina: 3 Charisma: 4 Issue Familiarity: 3 Debating: 3 Seat Held: Waitakere Blurb: Laila Harre represents the socialist tendency within the Progressive Alliance. She won the Waitakere seat in 2002 and has since managed to keep it. She is noted for her fiery rhetoric and integrity, can she use her two biggest assets to take the Progressive Alliance all the way to Parliament? (More to come tommorow, I really hope you're keen on making this scenario!) Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 366 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 This looks very good. I may give making such a scenario a try, but I'd need help with a map. That's been my stumbling point in a number of projects lately is I can't make maps worth crap. Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The United Future for New Zealand Party Funds: $700,000 How Established: 3 Party Goal: Win at least 6 seats and 10% share of the vote. The United Future for New Zealand Party was the result of the fusion of United Future, led by Peter Dunne and New Zealand First led by Winston Peters following the disasterous election result in the 2005 General Election. The party represents what they dub the 'silent majority' and advocate a 'centrist' 'common sense' approach to politics combined with anti-seperatist and anti-immigration rhetoric. Can the United Future for New Zealand overcome the issue of division and become a kingmaker in the 2008 election? Or is it cursed with remaining irrelevant? Co-leader Winston Peters Leadership: 3 Integrity: 2 Experience: 4 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 4 Issue Familiarity: 3 Debating: 3 Seat Held: Tauranga Blurb: After barely hanging on to his Tauranga seat with 12 votes, can Winston Peters take the newly formed United Future for New Zealand to electoral glory? Co-leader Peter Dunne Leadership: 4 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 3 Issue Familiarity: 3 Debating: 3 Seat Held: Ohariu Blurb: Peter Dunne managed to successfully defend his Ohariu electorate in the 2005 General election winning by a comfortable majority. Will Dunne take his 'common-sense' approach to politics and becoming the Kingmaker for the 2008 General Election? (Up next: the Minor parties) Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Also, do somebody has the 2005 scenario? http://80soft.ipbhost.com/index.php?showto...;hl=new+zealand Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 366 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I'd very much love a copy as well, of this one and 2005. chandallah@netscape.net Link to post Share on other sites
darkstriker 1 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I'd love these two scenarios too! jgerrard@cogeco.ca Link to post Share on other sites
Kauai 0 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 kandafoote@aol.com Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 @ matvail2002 Are you interested in my ideas at all? Otherwise this is a rather pointless exercise for me. And can you please send the 2005 scenario to me at hfrancisco2006@gmail.com? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 @ matvail2002Are you interested in my ideas at all? Otherwise this is a rather pointless exercise for me. And can you please send the 2005 scenario to me at hfrancisco2006@gmail.com? Thanks. The main problem is that I am not the maker of the 2005 scenario and I don't have a copy of the scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Ooo very impressive. Please send it to me at kurtsg@umich.edu Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 How about my first question Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I will be happy to work on it. Also, if anybody else is interested to work on it, please let it know on this thread. However, do somebody have the 2005 scenario and this will be my starting point for ridings and issues? Also, I am not sure if I will do it with the MMP system (which I am not familiar with the basis for making a scenario) or the FPTP system like in Canada or the UK. Another problem will be with the Maori Seats and the fact that they supercede other ridings. Also, are they applicable only to Maori living in reservations or all Maori in New Zealand? Link to post Share on other sites
CCA 4 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Only a few Maori in New Zealand live in reservation esque places, most are well integrated members of normal society. Maori in New Zealand can choose to be placed in either the Maori Electorate, which qualifies them to vote for the Maori Seats or the General Electorate which qualifies them to vote for the General Seats. There is a roughly even split with half of Maori choosing to participate in either. You cannot be in both. PS: I can work on the ridings/electorates if you can't find that scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Oh please can i have this! treasurerofthepcatyahoo.com Link to post Share on other sites
mz452 18 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I actually do have the 2005 scenario. I goes to Chancellor Forever. Also, I would include all of the parties registered with the New Zealand Election Commission. Also, to make the game more interesting, you should have more than one candidate for each party. Here are my suggestions: ACT Rodney Hide Green Party Jeanette Fitzsimons Russel Norman Metiria Turei Labour Party Helen Clark Michael Cullen Phil Goff Annette King Judith Tizard Geoffrey Palmer Mike Moore Māori Party Tariana Turia Pita Sharples National Party John Key Pansy Wong Bill English Gerry Brownlee Jim Bolger Jenny Shipley New Zealand First Winston Peters Dail Jones Progressive Party Jim Anderton Matt Robson United Future Peter Dunne Judy Turner Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party Michael Appleby Alliance Andrew McKenzie Kay Murray Democrats for Social Credit Stephnie de Ruyter Libertarianz Bernard Darnton The Republic of New Zealand Party Kerry Bevin Bill and Ben Jamie Linehan Ben Boyce The Family Party Richard Lewis Kiwi Party Larry Baldock Gordon Copeland New Zealand Pacific Party Taito Phillip Field Residents Action Movement Oliver Woods Workers Party Daphna Whitmore Direct Democracy Kelvyn Alp New World Order Party Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 366 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Can you please send me a copy of the 2005 NZ scenario? I do have Chancellor 4E. chandallah@netscape.net Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted November 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I will also be interested, as I have the German C4E: matvail2002@gmail.com Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Could I have both scenarios please? kurtsg@umich.edu thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Do you send it because I think it want into my spam folder? Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 New Zealand 2008 and 2005 please. treasurerofthepcATyahoo.com Link to post Share on other sites
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