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I know that several people have proposed similar scenarios, but I really find the idea of doing a political scenario with only the North or only the South very interesting. First things first however, this is the background info:

1863: Stonewall Jackson is wounded at Chancellorsville and loses an arm, but is not infected and does not die. His presence at Gettysburg leads to a southern victory, forcing the North to sue for peace and recognize the South.

1864: Abraham Lincoln is defeated by Horatio Seymour (D) in the Presidential Election.

1865: Despite political pressure, Robert E. Lee does not run against Jefferson Davis for the presidency.

1868: Schulyer Colfax beats out radical Republican Henry Wilson for the GOP's nomination, and defeats Seymour in a very close race.

1869: Alexander Stevens (D) wins the presidency of the Confederacy

1870's-1900: In the North, industry booms and the Indians Wars are much shorter. In the South, the economy struggles to compete. In the 1890's the South (supported by Mexico and many Indian tribes) successfully takes Arizona and New Mexico from the North.

Gilded Age Politics: In the North, The Republicans are divided into two branches: The Federalists/Whigs, who support big buisness, isolationism, and staunch anti-confederate views, and Progressives/Radical Republicans, who support Social Justice, Labor, and better relations with the Indian Tribes. The Federalists gain their support from the midwest, while the Progressives gain their support from New England. On the Democratic Side, the party is divided between Bourbon Democrats (laissez-faire, pro-immigrant, anti-south) and Populists (pro-labor, pro-social justice, more positive towards the south). The Bourbons are supported in the Mid-Atlantic, while the Populists have support in the west and border states. In the South, the Democrats (small government, constuctionalist, pro-slavery) dominate, though the opposition Reform party (slow removal of slavery, internationalist, pro-mexico) has solid pockets of support in the southwest and anti-secession regions of the south. In the North, the Republicans have an edge over the Democrats, but the presidential race usually comes down to New York.

1900's-1920's: The divisions in the Republican party become heavily pronounced, giving the more united Democrats and edge. In the south, the reform party gains more and more support as slavery is viewed as more and more obsolete. Both countries fight with the allies in WWI, the north is allies with western Europe, and the south is strongly anti-imperial. In the early 1900's the south takes over Cuba.

1930's-1950's: The Great Depression finally gives the Reform party the strength to take over. In 1929, John Nance Garner (D-TX) wins the presidency, but in 1935 Huey Long (RE-LA) leads an insurrection movement and wins. His policies help the south pull out of the depression, but gives the president a large degree of power. In the North, the depression kills off the bourbon movement, as incumbent Al Smith (D-NY) loses his parties nomination to FDR, who unites Progressive republicans with populist democrats to win the precidency. WWII is fought by both the USA and CSA, and Germany and Japan are defeated. The Cold War is also fought by both sides.

1960-Present: Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) makes the move to officially abolish slavery, though it is used very little at the time. In the North, John Kennedy (D-MA) makes the move to modernize America, including the begining of a space program and civil rights laws. In 1964, George Wallace (D-AL) defeats Lyndon Johnson for the democratic parties nomination, creating an exodus of liberal and moderates leaving the Democratic party to join the reform party. This leads to generally even competition between the Reform and Democratic Parties in the South. In the North, the Democrats still struggle in the midwest, while they do worse and worse in the west. At the same time they have consolidated their power in the northeast and midatalntic.

So in the current situation the Cold War is over, the War on Terror has not occurred since America is not as powerful, the northern economy is primarily industrial, and labor is incredibly important (though it will support moderate republicans) and small farmers still have influence. In the south, the economy is primarily rural and agrarian, though technology jobs are growing in the southern border states due to the south's lower taxes than in the north. A weakened version of Jim Crow is still in effect, though blacks are generally allowed to vote. In the North, the Democrats and Republicans are essentially in a dead heat, while in the south Democrats hold an edge over the reform party.

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If you ever get around to doing the 1865 scenario for the south, please don't forget about John Breckinridge. He was the Southern Democratic Candidate in 1860 and, although he stayed in the US Senate for a few months following KYs wishes not to secede, eventually was a general for the CSA. He's generally forgotten about, but would have undoubtedly been a major player in the CSA had it been established.

Edit: Also, I agree with VoteGOP. Turtledove's books are a must read if you're into this alternate history stuff. As is anything by Eric Flint, but especially his Rivers of War series.

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