Mitt/Rudy08 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I have finished creating the scenario for the 1996 United States Presidential Election. But there's a problem. It only works on the original version and not the beta one. Or at least thats how it is for me. You can download it here. http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/Unit...-_1996.zip.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteGOP Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Works on beta for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Great job, but one glaring factual error. Robert Casey was not banned from speaking at the Democratic National Convention in 1992 because of his pro-life views. He wasn't allowed to speak because he hadn't endorsed the ticket. Many pro-life Democrats did speak at the convention, including Mayor Daley of Chicago and Zell Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcallega Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Yeah, but Casey didn't endorse Clinton because he was pro-choice. Also, by this time Daley was pro-choice. And Zell Miller is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taft Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm going to submit that there's a lot of disagreement on why he was blocked. Casey says it was because of his views, but the Clinton campaign said it was because he hadn't endorsed the ticket. If I had to guess, both factors played a role: I suspect that Clinton didn't want the issue debated at the convention too vigorously, and the not-endorsing-the-ticket matter probably also swayed things, but if Clinton wanted him to speak, he would have spoken, regardless of any endorsement of the ticket or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taft Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Minor goof: I think California was at the end of March in '96 (like the 28th or some date around then); it didn't move forward until 2000. Scratch that. Major goof: You simply transplanted the 2000 primary schedule on the Democratic side. The two schedules didn't even look too much alike, as I recall; '96 looked like '92 more than 2000, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Yeah, but Casey didn't endorse Clinton because he was pro-choice. Also, by this time Daley was pro-choice. And Zell Miller is insane. Senator John Breaux, Senator Howell Heffin, and five pro-life Governors spoke. I'll grant you that Zell Miller is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Minor goof: I think California was at the end of March in '96 (like the 28th or some date around then); it didn't move forward until 2000.Scratch that. Major goof: You simply transplanted the 2000 primary schedule on the Democratic side. The two schedules didn't even look too much alike, as I recall; '96 looked like '92 more than 2000, IIRC. Delegates and Dates (courtesy of CNN) are over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I hope there's no policy, official or unofficial, against more than one scenario for the same election being out there, as I've been working on a '96 scenario for several weeks now and am close to being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I hope there's no policy, official or unofficial, against more than one scenario for the same election being out there, as I've been working on a '96 scenario for several weeks now and am close to being done. There is not, but the naming system is going to get messed up bad fast. Everybody insists on copying TheorySpark's "United States - xxxx" as my guess is both you and Mitt/Ruy08 did so clearly we're going to need a duel to settle the naming issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'll put my user handle (Patine) beside the '1996' on the default folder's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'll put my user handle (Patine) beside the '1996' on the default folder's name. That would certainly be appreciated. I'll grant you that Zell Miller is insane. As will just about any politically active Democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'll put my user handle (Patine) beside the '1996' on the default folder's name. Or you could adopt a new naming scheme as I did: Campaign '68 for instance. Stealing book titles (Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, '72) also works: The Choice — 1996 or some other '96 book could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dan Quayle did not run, though he was expected to. Also, Keyes should be at about 2%, not 0%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Bob Dole's VP Jack Kemp is not even available. Stockdale should be available as a Perot VP. Also, Dan Quayle should have 4 experience; He was a past Vice President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitt/Rudy08 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Bob Dole's VP Jack Kemp is not even available. Also, Stockdale should be available as a Perot VP. Jack Kemp is available. And Dan Quayle did run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Or you could adopt a new naming scheme as I did: Campaign '68 for instance.Stealing book titles (Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, '72) also works: The Choice — 1996 or some other '96 book could work. Primary Colors wasn't 1996, but it was about Bill Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 . And Dan Quayle did run. Nope. Dan Quayle ran in 2000. In 1996 he decided against running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitt/Rudy08 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Nope. Dan Quayle ran in 2000. In 1996 he decided against running. The wikopedia article's on Dan Quayle, the 1996 Presidential Election, and the 1996 Republican Primary, all say he was a candidate in 96. He dropped out of the race because of health problems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle#Post-vice_presidency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presiden...arty_nomination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Pa...arty_nomination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 How nice for the Wiki. In reality Quayle considered running, but ultimately decided against it after talking it over with his wife and concluding that he was still young enough to make a bid later. He should be off by default, but certainly there if someone wanted to play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSkoods Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 How nice for the Wiki. In reality Quayle considered running, but ultimately decided against it after talking it over with his wife and concluding that he was still young enough to make a bid later.He should be off by default, but certainly there if someone wanted to play him. That was a dumb decision by him. Although it's extremely unlikely that they would ever nominate an intellectual punching bag such as himself. Tried the scenario, seemed like Clinton had too big of an advantage. He ended up winning all but 4 states when I spacebarred and Kansas and Oklahoma were within 4 percent. I guess this is the Demo's version of 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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