Kauai Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I requested a re-download on this comp. So as per recent interest, I will revive my attempt at this from before. Anyone interested in joining and helping me with this? I doubt I have enough time to do it all on my own. United States presidential election, 1984All right. I just recently bought campaigns forever and I've been doing some research. So I've decided to start on a 1984 US election scenario. I'd like any help possible, - if scenario veterans could give me some tips or if someone could post some issues they think are relevant, that would also be great. Feel free to post about stats as well. Anyone whom helps I'll be sure to add a thanks to. Republican Party nomination President Ronald Reagen of California Former Governor Harold Stassen of Minnesota RNHA chairman Ben Fernandez of California Of course I'd make it nearly impossible to beat Reagen considering the historical results. Ronald Reagan (inc.) - 6,484,987 (98.78%) Unpledged delegates - 55,458 (0.85%) Harold Stassen - 12,749 (0.19%) Democratic Party nomination Reubin O'D. Askew, former Governor of Florida Alan M. Cranston, U.S. senator from California John H. Glenn Jr., U.S. senator from Ohio Gary W. Hart, U.S. senator from Colorado Ernest F. "Fritz" Hollings, U.S. senator from South Carolina The Rev. Jesse L. Jackson of Illinois George S. McGovern, former U.S. senator from South Dakota and Democratic presidential nominee in 1972 Walter F. Mondale, former U.S. vice president and former U.S. senator from Minnesota Mondale, Hart & Jackson the most viable candidates. I'll also be adding Senators as endorsers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Glad to see this started again! I look forward to playtesting the beta (which, given I usually play as Dems, may be a slaughter, and I mean me getting slaughtered). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteGOP Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Anyone who wins this scenario as them dems should be given an award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Anyone who wins this scenario as them dems should be given an award. I intend to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Lincoln Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If anyone who wins with the dems should get an award then anyone who wins with Harold Stassen should be given 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 If Stassen had won, he should have been made President of the world or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat332 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 is there any targeted date for completion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kauai Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Right now I am focusing on doing the issues, - picking a few off from 1984, and editing what's necessary while also looking for new issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteGOP Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Are you going to incorperate Reagans Highly successful ads like "Bear in the Woods" and "Morning in america''? Maybe as events? And a post debate event could use Reagans "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience." as another booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And a post debate event could use Reagans "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience." as another booster. Perhaps make it a 50% chance or something… Reagan's performance in the second debate was just as poor as the widely discussed first debate—but of course the second debate had that famous soundbite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteGOP Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I know this can't currently be incorperated but I think debate prep should effect the chance of it happening but not in the way you would think. I read in his autobiography that he didn't think he woud have delivered the statement if he had prepared more since he probably would have already had a pre set repsonse not as good as what he came up with on the spur of the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcallega Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 This is where i really wish that the p4e+p engine was much more detailed! Since you can only have a default Democratic "baseline", you cannot have it so that certain candidates poll better than others in the general election. For instance, polls showed that Gary Hart was actually in a dead heat with Reagan until he decided to be an idiot. Though i doubt that he would win (especially due to Reagan's broad base of support in the electoral college), it would still be interesting to see. And what about Glenn? He probably could have won a couple of midwestern states due to his union appeal? Anyway, this does sound like a very good scenario all things considered and if you want i can help with candidates and endorsers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I still remember, at 8 years old, watching the '84 Democratic primaries debate with Mondale, Hart, and Jackson, as my father was watching it. Though I had no idea at the time who those men were or what they stood for, and can't recall what they said exactly, I do have the image clearly in my head. At many rate, who'll be the space-bar party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteGOP Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Libertarians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 This is where i really wish that the p4e+p engine was much more detailed! Since you can only have a default Democratic "baseline", you cannot have it so that certain candidates poll better than others in the general election. For instance, polls showed that Gary Hart was actually in a dead heat with Reagan until he decided to be an idiot. Though i doubt that he would win (especially due to Reagan's broad base of support in the electoral college), it would still be interesting to see. And what about Glenn? He probably could have won a couple of midwestern states due to his union appeal? Anyway, this does sound like a very good scenario all things considered and if you want i can help with candidates and endorsers. The event engine can model broad shifts of support (i.e.: If Hart Exists 1 September, +1000 momentum), and the upcoming version of President Forever is supposed to have per-state regional bonuses for leaders so you can model Glenn's strength in the Midwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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