Patine Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Okay, a Russian presidential election may not be that hot of an idea, given credible claims of unfair electoral practices. It may not be Mugabe-level, but it certainly likely wouldn't do justice to this engine. Here's my next idea. After a long-wrangled and short-lived political alliance, both the BQ/PQ and ADQ manage to force a third separatist referendum in 2010, this time winning by 57%. After a prolonged two-year political drama, Quebec becomes independent with an American-style constitution. No sooner has the ink dried than the left-wing BQ/PQ and the right-wing ADQ are at each other's throats on the camapign trail for control of the new nation. Charest's PLQ camapigns for rejoining Canada, while the UFP tries just to exist. Beginning ideas of candidates are: PQ/BQ -Bernard Landry -Gilles Duceppe -Lucien Bouchard -Francois Legault -Pauline Marois -Joseph Facal -Simon Vallee -Michel Gauthier -Francine LaLonde ADQ -Mario Dumont (I need more candidates here. He's the only one ever mentioned) PLQ -Jean Charest -Yves Seguin Maybe -Jean Chretien -Paul Martin -Brian Mulroney -Pierre Petigrew UFP -Pierre Dostie -Amir Khadir Issues will focus on matters of setting up a distinct nation, as well as a Reunification issue the PLQ will be pushing. Any thoughts on this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matvail2002 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Great scenario idea, but I consider myself a federalist (however, I think this we will VERY UNKLIKELY TO HAPPENS): First of all, the PQ is very impopular, so the standings will be: PQ=30% ADQ=30% PLQ=29% QS=3% Undecided=8% The UFP doesn't exist anymore, it's now Québec Solidaire (QS): Françoise David and Amir Khadir are the two main figures in this party. Maybe add for the ADQ: Jean Garon (former péquiste minister) Lucien Bouchard (he's more conservative than social-democrat and has ties with Dumont) André Caillé (former head of Hydro-Québec) Sébastien Proulx (Number 2 of the ADQ in parliament right now and Dumont right hand guy) Joseph Facal can be considered as a center/center-right figure. For the PLQ, I think that Séguin is out of politics and Chrétien, Martin and Mulroney are just too old. So add for the PLQ, Philippe Couillard Monique Jérôme-Forget Put the PLQ strong in: Western Montréal VERY Outaouais VERY Eastern Townships Northern Québec (in Native areas) Put the ADQ strong in: Québec City VERY Chaudière-Appalaches VERY Central Québec Lanaudière Montréal North and South Shore Put the PQ strong in: Eastern Montréal Gaspésie Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean VERY Abitibi-Témiscamingue Côte-Nord Laurentides and Mauricie will be bellwater areas between the three parties. QS will be strongest in Eastern Montréal. The issues= Language Rights for the English Minority Rights for the Natives Relations with Canada Environnement Immigration Relation with the USA The Health System (Public vs. Private) The Education System (Public vs. Private) Public Transport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsFan21 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I have a map you may want to use, PM me if you're interested. Simon Vallee Haha, good ol' Simon. Man, this board used to be so much fun... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Thanks for the help, you two! And I thought this scenario would languish forever unreplied to. I will certainly take your advice on leaders and party strengths, Matvail, seeing as you're apparently a Quebecois, and I'm not. As for your map OldPC, I'd love to see it; I'll PM you as soon as I'm done typing this post. BTW, is there a joke I'm missing about Simon Vallee? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsFan21 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 BTW, is there a joke I'm missing about Simon Vallee? He used to post often on this board when we had the open political discussion. Him, me, a guy named Mantis, and a few others used to basically rapid-fire flame each other lovingly. We all had a good time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matvail2002 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Looking forward to this scenario! P.S: BTW, I am not really a Québécois, I lived in Ottawa for the last 14 years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_bond72 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 In how much time you think than you take to finish this scenario!? (Sorry my english is not very good) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Currently, I'm working on US 1996. After that, I need to sort my priorities for my several proposed ideas. It may be a bit, yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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