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Cynthia would do best in the South [ NDP Primaries ], and Georgia specifically. Although she should be hard to win as, as the South would have very few delegates. [ NDP canidates would have shit no chance winning any Southern state. ]

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After much thought I've decided to go ahead and do this one. I need ALOT of help with the map as my first attempt was a disaster. I'm keeping most of the same issues and have a pretty good idea on can

French Language Bonuses: Liberal-Democratic Party(Centrist): Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Stéphane Dion (+2) Michael Ignatieff (+1) Bob Rae (+1) Dalton McGuinty (+1) Conservative Party (Right

Since browns can't do the NDP right away maybe Kauai you can do the libs then send it to browns to to the NDP. I'll start on the cons now.

I wouldn't put Bob Rae in the NDP Column. He's a Liberal now.

I was thinking that. It's just that there are so many Liberals to choose from that moving him over would make the game possibly more competitive. The thing is, didn't he become a liberal becasue the NDP has gone so far left under Jack Layton? We could theroetically move the NDP 'towards the center' (like that will ever happen lol) and that would put Rae in a good position to be NDP

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The NDP represents the far left whaco vote in this election. They're really there to give the cons a fighting chance in Canada by splitting the left vote.

VoteGOP, if you send me the scenario again if you've done more on the map, I will work on some more candidates

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I suppose your right about Bob Rae. The reason he moved more less from the NDP to the Liberals is that he followed a long standing tradition of NDP Provincial Premiers who are actually more Centrists and supporters of the Federal Liberal Party vs. the Federal NDPs. Names come to mind like Roy Romano and Ujjal Dosanjh who were NDPs Provincially but Liberal Federally.

However, considering a merger of the Liberals and the Democrats the party would probably experience a shift to the right, which would allow for Left leaning Liberals like Bob Rae to move back to the NDP. You're right Bob Rae for the NDP would work.

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So, I made a list of candidates:

NDP:

Jack Layton

Dennis Kucinich

Gary Doer

Cynthia McKenney

Thomas Mulclair

GREENS:

Elizabeth May

David Suzuki

Ralph Nader

LIBERALS:

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

Stéphane Dion

Bob Rae

Michael Ignatieff

Gerald Kennedy

Mark Warner

CONSERVATIVES:

John McCain

Mitt Romney

Mike Huckabee

Stephen Harper

Jim Prentice

Bernard Lord

Jean Charest

Rudy Guiliani

LIBERTARIANS:

Ron Paul

Bob Barr

ANTI-UNION:

Pat Buchanan

David Orchard

Mel Hurtig

Paul Hellyer

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Revised List: (I've put the French-language debating bonus):

NDP:

Jack Layton (+1)

Dennis Kucinich

Gary Doer

Carole James

Lorne Calvert

Howard Hampton (+1)

Thomas Mulclair (+2)

GREENS:

Elizabeth May (+1)

David Suzuki

Ralph Nader

Cynthia McKenney

Al Gore (?)

LIBERALS:

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

Stéphane Dion (+2)

Bob Rae (+1)

Dalton McGuinty (+1)

Jennifer Granholm

Michael Ignatieff (+1)

Gerald Kennedy

Mark Warner

Joe Biden

John Kerry (+1)

Wesley Clark

Jennifer Granholm

Al Gore (?)

CONSERVATIVES:

John McCain

Mitt Romney (+1)

Mike Huckabee

Stephen Harper (+1)

Jim Prentice (+1)

Ed Stelmach

Bernard Lord (+2)

Jean Charest (+2)

Rudy Guiliani

Bobby Jindal

Tim Pawlenly

Mark Stanford

Charlie Crist

LIBERTARIANS:

Bob Barr

ANTI-UNION:

Danny Williams (?)

Pat Buchanan

Lou Dobbs

Ron Paul

David Orchard

Mel Hurtig

Paul Hellyer

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Revised list with candidate by starting pourcentages:

NDP:

1.Jack Layton (+1)

2.Dennis Kucinich

3.Gary Doer

4.Thomas Mulclair (+2)

GREENS:

1.Elizabeth May (+1)

2.David Suzuki

3.Ralph Nader

4.Cynthia McKenney

LIBERALS:

1.Barack Obama

2.Hillary Clinton

3.Michael Ignatieff (+1)

4.Bob Rae (+1)

5.Stéphane Dion (+2)

6.Dalton McGuinty (+1)

CONSERVATIVES:

1.John McCain

2.Mitt Romney (+1)

3.Stephen Harper (+1)

4.Mike Huckabee

5.Jean Charest (+2)

6.Bernard Lord (+2)

7.Ed Stelmach

8.Jim Flaherty

9.Peter MacKay

LIBERTARIANS:

1.Bob Barr

ANTI-UNION:

1.Pat Buchanan

2.Ron Paul

3.Lou Dobbs

4.David Orchard

BLOC QUÉBÉCOIS:

1.Gilles Duceppe (+2)

2.Pauline Marois (+2)

3.Bernard Landry (+2)

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My suggestion for parties.

Liberal-Democratic Party(Centrist):

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

Stéphane Dion

Michael Ignatieff

Bob Rae

Dalton McGuinty

Conservative Party (Right of centre):

Rudy Giuliani

Mitt Romney

Stephen Harper

Jean Charest

Bernard Lord

Mike Huckabee

New Alliance Party (Left-wing, Eco-Socialist):

David Suzuki

Ralph Nader

Jack Layton

Dennis Kucinich

Gary Doer

Rally Against the Union (Protectionist, Anti-Union Alliance):

Lou Dobbs

Pauline Marois

David Orchard

Ron Paul

Pat Buchanan

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The Lib-Dems would be more left. The point of having two liberal parties is to give the Cons a fighting chance in parts of Canada which is very liberal. The bloc is used for the same purpose to take Quebec away from the libs or at least make it competitive.

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My suggestion for parties.

Liberal-Democratic Party(Centrist):

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

Stéphane Dion

Michael Ignatieff

Bob Rae

Dalton McGuinty

Conservative Party (Right of centre):

Rudy Giuliani

Mitt Romney

Stephen Harper

Jean Charest

Bernard Lord

Mike Huckabee

New Alliance Party (Left-wing, Eco-Socialist):

David Suzuki

Ralph Nader

Jack Layton

Dennis Kucinich

Gary Doer

Rally Against the Union (Protectionist, Anti-Union Alliance):

Lou Dobbs

Pauline Marois

David Orchard

Ron Paul

Pat Buchanan

I would describe the Liberal-Democratic Paryt as Center-Left, and the Conservatives as Center-Right. But other than that, this works out well.

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By Canadian standards, the liberal Party is to the center and the Conservatives are center-right.

The NDP is between the center-left and the left.

However, the GOP is considered much more to the right as the Conservatives in Canada.

(Even the democrats could be sometimes more right-wing than the Canadian Conservatives on certains things. Oddly, they seems at par on many subjects). Even the former Reform Party was less right-wing than the current GOP.

Frankly, I am a proud conservative (from Canada), I am pro-choice, I am not really religious and I am pro-gun control. However, I am at par with the GOP on economic policies.

I am that the name New Alliance Party is not really good for a left-wing (In Canadian Politics, the Alliance was the name of a center-right political party who was the sucessor of the Reform Party and later marged with the PC to become the Conservative Party of Canada).

I have a few suggestions for a new name (the flower, like the Labor Party will be a good logo):

Progressive Party

Social-Democratic Party

The Green-Left Coalition

Progressive Socialist Party

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However the Liberals in Canada are much farther to the left of the average American Liberal, and so we need to add HEAVY region minus's for the South for Canadian Liberals, and perhaps Minus's for American Conservatives in most of Canada. [ Not Rudy Giuliani ]

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