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Everything posted by SSVegeta123243

  1. hmm yeah I guess it was the focus on political boards that caused the countless delays and numerous bugs
  2. pataki? the failed governor of new york who wouldn't have won reelection if he ran for it? I think clinton could beat any republican on the board if she ran a smart campaign all of the guys you mentioned have obvious flaws and if she can put the focus on those flaws then she can win money wise she could outraise every other candidate and as for name recognition her name alone could get her 40% of the vote
  3. it is remarkable that he won his birth state which is right next to his home state? and lets not forget there was no way the people from sc were going to vote for kerry a liberal from mass anyway my point is that edwards probably couldn't win his home state or any state in the south and that alone makes me question his ability to win an election as I pointed out for a democrat to win they have to steal a red state like ohio or florida and I dont think edwards can do that
  4. yeah I still question edwards ability to win and I still do not know if he could win north carolina or any other southern state but i think he can win the primary and is a much stronger candidate then he was in 04
  5. if he lost he would lose because of the stuff you mentioned he wouldn't lose because he was too conservative
  6. ok so lets see the economy in ohio was in the toilet iraq was a mess the governor was already unpopular and yet the people still voted for bush everything was against bush in 04 and the people of ohio still voted for him now imagine if you take a conservative that doesn't have all that extra baggage dewine wasn't really a conservative he is somewhere between moderate and conservative and he lost simply because of guilt by association and he was running against a strong opponent well thats mainly because he pled guilty to a crime chances are in 2008 these things will be forgotten and that guilt by association stuff wont work and the republicans have won the last two presidential elections without winning a single one of them which further backs up my point that republicans do not need to steal blue states to win elections 1) there is no way the dems could win without new york unless for some reason the south turns its back on the republican party 2) and yes guiliani and mccain will put more blue states in play but as I have said the republicans do not need to do that to win
  7. so prodem you think bill frist couldn't win missouri, nevada, florida, and ohio lets be honest here any conservative republican could win those 4 states and if he wins 2 of those 4 + their base then they win as I said the map plays out much better for republicans since majority of the states are red and in their base
  8. and what states did you include as base states vs swing states? bush has shown over the past 2 elections that the map does favor the republicans republicans do not have to fight it out and steal blue states they just have to protect their base and I consider their base to be every state that bush won in both elections their is no chance in hell mccain beats clinton in the most liberal state in america why? republicans can play on the defensive and just defend every state bush won and win again thats much smarter then trying to rely on states like NJ or NY well penn is a blue state and has been blue for a while as for the rest you their are differences between senatoral elections and presidential elections I mean look at north dakota where I believe we hold both senatoral seats
  9. i just love these pre selected political talks I'm just curious why the other boards do not have similar restrictions
  10. this is mainly because the two top democratic candidates are a black guy and a woman plus the republican race is less wide open then the democratic race
  11. well i think brownback would lose on pure name recognition as for newt I saw several polls that shows he was running well among republicans and he is seen as an example of an old school conservative that gained the republicans both houses and frist was running first in an early poll of the south carolina primary and if he can hold the entire republican base then he could easily win the point u guys are missing is that the republicans do not need to win outside of their base to win the election if they can win the south and the rocky mountain region they would only need to win 1 or 2 states outside of the base
  12. again who? and why wouldn't they be able to win the general? again bill frist could win the general and it is hard to get further right then that
  13. yes and thats the only anomaly you will find and many other republicans also supported this measure
  14. like who? and I'm not talking about people like alan keyes who are in their own world please name one conservative republican that is too far right to win? I mean bill frist could probably win the nomination if he choose to run and I doubt u could get further right then that and on the democratic side yes there are guys too far right to win but most of these guys aren't considering running anyway another example is nanci pelosi people said they didn't want her to take over because she was too far left and out of the main stream but I never heard that once during the time tom delay was in power and again it is hard to get further right then that
  15. i could have told u that romney is a phony and isn't it funny that if u are a republican or a democrat u have to look more conservative as if beings a liberal automatically eliminates from the discussion if u are far left they say u are out of the mainstream if u are far right you are a part of the group I've never heard a person say "this candidate is too conservative to win"
  16. seen her smile there was suppose to be a question mark after haven't
  17. you haven't every politician smiles no matter what
  18. so first you say he is brave enough to change his policy when it isn't working and then u say he is brave because he sticks to his policies and doesn't change when it is unpopular and jo is right he doesn't stand up for his policies his policies are ever changing with the polls as I said this is a man that has no convictions this man will say and do anything he can to get elected and has shown that the past 6 years
  19. please mccain is pretty much as conservative as they come he was against the gay marriage amendment simply because he felt it should be left to the states he did support arizona's gay marriage ban his immigration policy is the same as bushes he is completely anti abortion all this maverick moderate stuff is just the little song and dance he has put on for the last 6 years
  20. i couldn't disagree more I dont think republicans are unbeatable in presidential elections and there isn't any super candidate on the republican side that is flawless plus with all the damage bush is doing he alone will make it tough for republicans
  21. well i disagree I think hilliary is a strong candidate I think she will run and I think she can win both the primary and general she has charisma she is a good speaker she could probably outraise every candidate out there and she has better name recognition then every other candidate hil wouldn't be my first choice in the democratic primary but I certainly wouldn't have a problem voting for her
  22. ok and please tell me how he would win the democratic base in new england and the west coast? plus u could have said all these same things about clark and edwards in 04 (yes bayh is a little further right but he isn't much different) if the democrats try to depend on the young vote and AA vote then they will lose you cant depend on people who usually do not vote if u want to win the key is and always has been the white middle class vote again you are missing the point on how could these people win the base? please tell me how guiliani could win in south carolina or georgia no chance mccain would take that position he would become a strong supporter but I highly doubt he would be VP in this stage of his life
  23. well I cant think of any other politician in the country that took a beating like he took from an opponent and then bent over for him for the next 6 years I cant think of any politician that has a far right voting record and yet still puts on this song and dance about playing the middle if people really sat down and look at mccain's views they would see he is another typical far right nutjob I would take a guy like Bill Frist any day that will actually come out and tell you where he stands over a phony that wont
  24. yeah there is nothing confusing about mccain he is fake and will do anything to gain more votes one day u will see him being the maverick moderate the next he will start talking like alan keyes one day he will talk about how things are a mess in iraq the next he will talk about staying there until the job is done there is nothing confusing about this phony he will say and do whatever it takes to get more people to vote for him
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