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  1. 19 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

    No, he didn't. He said that more Americans have died this year than any year in the past 100. He didn't have a gaffe at all he just had a slight stutter moment. If you actually listen to the whole speech it was powerful and compelling. Certainly better than the disaster that was Trump's Kenosha trip.

    Today lol

    Imagine saying this on the debate stage. If "I've got binders of women" is so bad that it was blew up why does no one care about this. It's like we're normalizing it for Biden but holding Trump and every other politician to a higher degree.


  2. Pollsters trying to learn from 2016 but failing.

    Pollsters also trying to gauge proper turnout and samples. It's hard when most votes this year are expected to be by mail. Lots of variables to voting by mail and it affects minorities and democrats a lot more, e.g. having to send it off two weeks before, ballots not arriving, them arriving and you lose it, etc etc etc. 

  3. On 8/30/2020 at 7:24 PM, Jayavarman said:

    The simple bar is showing up once.

    Clinton showed up zero times in Wisconsin while Trump made multiple visits.  She went on to lose the state by only 10 thousand votes.

    Trump and Republicans also made more campaign visits to Pennsylvania and invested resources.  Clinton lost the state by 0.7%.

    He got out like you wanted. Had a gaffe immediately. He needs to stay inside.

  4. On 8/30/2020 at 12:17 AM, lizphairphreak said:

    I was thinking about this with this Atlantic article that came out today: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/how-biden-loses/615835/

    There are so many people who completely agree with the protests, are sick and tired of not being heard by politicians, and have seen "peaceful" protests fail (and still be painted as violent affairs) that they're desensitized to fires and violence. Obviously Biden can't endorse violent riots for many reasons, but any advice telling him or Harris or other people to turn their back on this large group of protesters and supporters of protesters is a great way to lose the progressive base. 

    Just a reminder that a lot of the people that are rallying are younger and minority voters. Ones that almost never turn out. That is also a great point, if Biden alienates even one of these two category of voters, he loses. Trump getting above 15% AA support is game over for Biden, something I don't see happening unless AA turnout is incredibly down. Voting by mail could result in that despite how everyone says it won't. Theres a lot of gimmicks to it (send in your ballot two weeks early, has to be done by usps, etc etc. I'm a mail-in voter here and I've voted twice. I nearly forgot both times cause you see the mail and just put it somewhere thinking "I don't need it now") 

    Biden and the Democratic establishment know its time is almost up. It's trying a last hoorah to woo Republicans and prove to the progressive youth wing "Look! It works! Liberalism works!"

  5. On 8/29/2020 at 5:06 PM, Sunnymentoaddict said:

    Within a few weeks will be the start of the College Football season. The Big Ten( Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin )is one of the few conferences that will be suspending their 2020-21 season. The schools bolded are in potential 2020 swing states. Every Saturday until November will be quiet in the midwest because of COVID. Michigan's "Big House" capacity is over 100,000! This year it will be 0. There is no way that people in the midwest cannot ignore the lingering effects of COVID-19(and the poor response) has placed on our daily life. 

    You do know sports have been cancelled since April right?

    People aren't going to vote cause of CFB. They acknowledge the cancellation of sports is a common side effect of COVID-19 but if they're that into CFB, they would be following it and probably be reassured by the talks to start the season in Spring instead.

  6. 3 hours ago, vcczar said:

    That's probably almost all FL and OH, which are the only BG states Biden has seen any significant drop. 

    According to RCP, Michigan and Wisconsin are closer than Florida is. I am not surprised. Florida has a large pensioner population. Ages 60+ have turned against Trump due to COVID.

  7. 8 hours ago, Jayavarman said:

    Why does that matter? Trump did not win 2016 with amazing polls.

    Democrats I know keep showing me Biden's national lead when I warn them about Trump.  They did the same assurance dance with Hillary's lead in 2016.

    Cause this is a dramatically different race than 2016.

  8. I mean we knew the race would tighten but Biden being +5 nationally is still not amazing for Trump.

    I would be giddy over winning Ohio if I was Trump though and that recent YouGov poll showing Trump winning Independents +10. We always knew Biden had an independents problem though.

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  9. Just now, Hestia11 said:

    And how many hours did he prepare for the debates? Many, more than likely. 

    I'm not saying that he's by any means flawless, but lying about a stutter seems like not much to gain in any way. 

    And how many hours did he prepare for these interviews on TV and rallies he did in 2008 and 2012? Must be a lot cause his brain didn't seem like it was melting then. He really needs to up his preparation in 2020 and change his campaign team around cause clearly it's appearing to everyone that he is senile. What a horrible candidate. Can't imagine why you'd vote for this man in a primary outside of being over the age of 30.

  10. Just now, Hestia11 said:


    Do you really think that he'd make up something like that? Seriously? Stuttering isn't usually a good thing to be associated with you, and like many other things, it worsens as you get older. He isn't stuttering that bad on television that I've seen, and I watched all the debates fully. I suspect if he's expected to ad lib, or come up with something on the fly, it's worse because he hasn't had time to prepare. Saying he "never had it until this year" is false. And "normalize it"? What do you mean? Normalizing stuttering should be a good thing, it's a condition that people suffer from. 

    Yes he would make it up lol, cause he made up meeting Nelson Mandela when he walked out of prison, he said he taught at Penn, said he visited Afghanistan to honor a dead Naval officer who rappelled down a ravine to retrieve the body of another soldier, said he was ARRESTED in South Africa for trying to see Nelson Mandela, said this several times, lied about his vote on the invasion of Iraq, plagiarized British labour leader Neil Kinnock, lied about anti-segregationist activity when he was on the wrong side of history during the civil rights era.

    So why wouldn't he lie about a stutter? He lied about honoring dead soldiers, he lied about seeing Nelson Mandela, he lied about not being racist above all things. Why would the track record show that Biden isn't a liar here? You can provide whatever anecdotal articles you want, there's a three hour debate from 2012 and another from 2008 showing him not stutter once. There's countless interviews from both presidential runs, countless rallies, that he attended and didn't stutter once. These are all situations in 2020 when he turned into a mess, stuttering, lying, not knowing what he was running for, not knowing what was going on, forgetting things like the word "constitution", forgetting he was running for PRESIDENT, LOL. 

    Once again, Kamala Harris, president by 2022.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

    Okay attacking a stutter is wrong. My hands shake sometimes and sometimes they don't, it depends on the circumstance. The two things are very similar, especially if Biden has practiced at it his whole life. Gaffes...wonder who's remembered for those? 

    Difference is that he never had it until this year. Now he's trying to normalize it like that video of the kid at the DNC "Oh Joe Biden made me realize having a stutter is okay", Joe Biden has a decade worth of videos of him talking at length for hours at a time not stuttering, now all of a sudden he is stuttering. He needs to draw a clock on TV. 

  12. 8 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

    The difference is that one made gaffe's his entire political personality and has so since he ran in 2016. The other has videos talking for 4 hours at a time not stuttering and then all of a sudden can't keep himself from saying the wrong thing, stuttering or needing time to collect his thoughts. Kamala Harris is president by 2022.

  13. 4 minutes ago, billay said:

    Hmm I didnt think of that. Good point but knowing the DNC theyll try and cram another old Moss covered moderate onto the top of the ticket.

    Well of course, I see Cuomo trying for it but he is pretty unpopular outside of Covid-19. Don't see him being popular like this ever again. 

  14. I actually agree that Biden is attempting to use this unrest to stoke racial tensions. 

    The world will never return (thankfully) to the days of Black Panthers and people legitimately thinking there will be a race war but that doesn't mean that saying a sitting president is quite literally a neonazi is fine, it's disingenuous and its going to anger Republicans against pro-black movements. What a stupid thing to say.

  15. 7 minutes ago, admin_270 said:

    Ya, the forum is disproportionately Dem supporters. (I would say Biden supporters, but I don't think virtually any of them really support Biden in particular. They just support whoever they think might beat Trump.)

    Well this election is literally the equivalent of being told "So your choices are shooting yourself and poisoning yourself"

    There is no positive outcomes in my eyes. The only positive outcome is Biden being the last hoorah for moderate politics. I don't see 2028 being anything other than a progressive orgy, mind my language.

  16. 49 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

    I wonder if this is some Pelosi 3d chess.

    Pelosi says Biden shouldn't debate.  Trump, who already didn't want to debate but is relieved to be able to blame someone else, takes the bait.  "PELOSI SAYS WE SHOULDN'T DEBATE!  WHAT IS SHE AFRAID OF?  IS BIDEN TOO ALZHEIMERED UP TO STAND UP AGAINST ME?  DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON DEBATES!  BIDEN IS STEALING DEMOCRACY!"

    Biden says he will debate anyway.  

    Trump is now boxed in -- he has to debate, he just said to refuse to is to steal democracy.

    So the whole thing is a ploy to force Trump to debate.

    Just my guess.


    I doubt that. Thinking its something like with Clyburn in the Dem primaries after Super Tuesday "Oh yeah well Biden won Super Tuesday, why should he have to debate?" They push the idea so that Biden doesn't have to.

    The issue here is that Biden himself has to pull out of debates. He won't do it. He's maxed his support so there is obviously the fear he will lose more but I don't think that'll happen.

  17. Wouldn't have mattered cause people would have seen cancelling the RNC speech is political positioning, Americans are hyper-aware when Trump is political positioning cause they love looking at him with a lens.

    I think Hurricane Laura is supposed to be a lot more tame now, it made landfall at a Cat 4 isn't of Cat 5 right? (That's not saying its much more tame.) This isn't Katrina level but he could make this work for him, this is his last chance to look good I don't see another situation like this arising lol. I remember people thinking he was doing well with Harvey though.

  18. 7 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

    The movement, yes. Did I ever say that the movement did nothing? You claimed the rioting did something. Is it the rioting or the fact that people are truly behind this movement more than ever? I believe the latter completely. 

    Why not both? Lmao. I see where you are coming from. I definitely think the rioting is causing elected officials and the Democratic party to swiftly act as well as change its positions on a lot of issues important to black people and leftists that have been ignored for so long in favor of reaching to the right. 

    I also do believe the Democratic Party is the hope in all this in terms of effective reform, yes, as well as effective defunding and demilitarization of the police. I just think it's very obvious to everyone that protesting marching for Philando Castile, Tamir Rice and Walter Scott did nothing. It did literally nothing, these people died in vain. Rioting over Rodney King and Michael Brown actually *achieved* things. This is the problem we are facing, violence *achieves* things while it should not.

  19. 4 minutes ago, admin_270 said:

    Violence sometimes advances the goals of a movement, sometimes it sets it back - sometimes it irrevocably sets it back.

    Either way, it's not the right thing to do.

    Am not arguing its the right thing to do, am arguing that it is achieving goals.

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  20. 18 minutes ago, admin_270 said:

    Do you think things on the whole are better or worse for black Americans than 60 years ago?

    Lot of variables to that. You need to really think about what has changed.

    60 years ago, African-Americans had hope for once in their existence since the ending of slavery that they were going to be on the up. Affirmative action was introduced and they were finally allowed in good schools cause of desegregation PLUS whenever crimes such as lynching occurred in Southern states such as Georgia, it was a crime that was forced to be taken seriously or else the GBI would be involved (or the state's equivalent) and that would be really bad for said-department. 

    Look where they are now though. Where that hope ended up at. Black people still live in the same communities that were made popular by Jim Crow and in a lot of states like Illinois and California, were forced into communities due to gentrification. They don't get access to good schooling, they are such huge users of crack-cocaine and other stimulants that were literally PUSHED onto their communities by the government to arrest them, we have more black people in prison than any country has prisoners, we have systematic racism and institutional racism (white people and black people both get caught with marijuana at the exact same rate, white people more actually, guess who gets arrested for it more) and on top of all that, I can safely say to you that black people are scared when they're around police officers. A lot has changed but the right foot is walking forwards, the left back.

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