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  2. I think he would have to, but look at Trump...... he did it
  3. Good point - he would have to leave his job if he formally announces, wouldn't he?
  4. I totally agree, Rand Paul is only becoming more important, not only that, I believe that he represents an interesting wing the Republican parry that in my opinion is only going to be more popular because his message appeals more to the younger generations including mine. I think hes going to be a 2024 candidate and I would be suprised if he ended up not running. Tucker Carlson will not ever make a run for the presidency because why give up his great job making tons of money?
  5. Rand Paul has proven himself a more important voice in the Senate than the rest of the GOP Senators combined. https://tv.gab.com/channel/danzirin/view/senator-rand-paul-do-not-comply-6110d3ef402ec503016bf01a
  6. Anyone think Tucker Carlson is seriously considering running in 2024? https://gab.com/RevolverNews/posts/106727410562049466
  7. Any of you use Bitcoin? Probably will move away from PayPal, and allowing for it is one consideration.
  8. Ya, notice the incoming he's been getting from the Biden admin?
  9. Also it appears that tapering from Powell will start in early 2022... which is a disaster for Democrats when discussing the economy as election season approaches. Not looking good for Joe.
  10. Yeah probably but if he really wants DeSantis to win/do well he can't fuck around too long with his usual "will he or won't he" stuff. Needs time for DeSantis to fundraise, get the right staff etc. I do think it will massively help DeSantis if he runs against Pence
  11. My thinking is Trump is going to flirt with the idea of running long enough to clear the field so to say and then endorse Desantis, so the primary is less of a concern.
  12. If somehow Trump decides to run, I wonder if DeSantis would be enough for people to still vote for Trump despite his issues... IDK it's tough. Safer is just DeSantis running with Trump endorsing him.
  13. I created an algorithm that looks at % states won, % of Electoral Votes won, % of Popular Vote, % of margin of PV vs other major party, % votes not going to 3rd parties and divided each category by voter turnout to calculate who that most all-encompassing impressive victory. I applied a score for each category and weighed each category equally. The number below is just to show how close total score are. The Top 10 Greatest Electoral Victories in US History LBJ def. Goldwater in 1964 -- 43pts FDR def. Landon in 1936 -- 42 pts Nixon def. McGovern in 1972 -- 39 pts Reagan def. Mondale in 1984 -- 27 pts (kind of a shocker points-wise but PV and PV margin and turnout was lower than the above) Lincoln def. McClellan in 1864 -- 26 pts Grant def. Seymour in 1868 -- 25 pts Harrison def. Van Buren in 1840 -- 22 pts Harding def. Cox in 1920 -- 20 pts (hurt by sub-50% voter turnout) Madison def. Pinckney in 1816 -- 18 pts 4-way tie with 16 pts: Eisenhower def. Stevenson '56; Grant def. Greeley '72; Pierce def. Scott '52; Jefferson def. Pinckney '04 Note: You may ask: Where are the Washington, Coolidge, Hoover and other FDR landslides? Where's Obama? Washington was dealing with voter turnout of only about 10% and 6% in his elections respectively. He was the only choice on the ballot in many of those places. Despite this, he still had about 10% write-ins going against him in 1788 of the few that were allowed. Washington's elections aren't impressive when they're orchestrated. Coolidge's victory saw among the lowest voter turnout in the modern era. He's deeply hurt by that and by the fact that so many voters went 3rd party. Hoover and FDR '32 almost made the list but their turnout, while not terrible, undermined them a bit. Obama's great victory isn't that impressive, historically speaking. It's only impressive when looking at elections from 1992-2020. Recent elections have been among the least impressive election victories. Obama's score for 2008 is actually exactly 0 pts. Top 10 Weakest Electoral Victories in US History Adams def. Jackson in 1824 - negative 52 (This victory was so glaringly weak. Adams gets more negative points than LBJ gets positive points. Adams lost the PV and EV to Jackson, but as no one got the required EVs needed, the House decided the election for Adams). Bush def. Gore in 2000 - negative 30 (lost PV) Adams def. Jefferson in 1796 - negative 25 (slim margin + low turnout) Hayes def. Tilden in 1876 - negative 20 (lost PV) Trump def. Clinton in 2016 - negative 20 (lost PV) Nixon def. Humphrey in 1968 - negative 18 Taylor def. Cass in 1848 - negative 17 Harrison def. Cleveland in 1888 - negative 15 (lost PV) Clinton def. Bush in 1992 - negative 15 (Very low PV%; extremely high 3rd party voting) Kennedy def. Nixon in 1960 - negative 13 If anyone is curious, Bush '04 got negative 4 pts, Biden '20 got negative 3 pts. Obama '12 got negative 2 pts. This makes Biden's recent victory the 36th greatest electoral victory, according to my algorithm. That's quite unimpressive, historically speaking. The biggest mark against him was that he won only 50% of the states. What helped him was that turnout was extremely high, but overall margins, EVs, etc weren't high enough to really score on that turnout for this algorithm. Historically, every election of the 21st century, except for Obama's 2008 election win which netted 0 pts has been a negative score election victory. This shows how difficult it is to really score a home run, electorally speaking in presidential elections now. One has to go back to 1988, when Bush Sr scored 2 pts vs Dukakis in his relatively grand victory. It looks like Reagan's 1984 victory will be the last true landslide, so long as we remain as ideologically polarized as we are.
  14. I have not ever been this excited for someone to really start testing the waters as I am about Desantis, I think his star is only rising.
  15. I’ve been insanely impressed w DeSantis this week in the media as someone who didn’t get the hype for a while. If the republicans take power in 2022 and Biden is at a stalemate, Desantis will definitely win in 2024 IMO. he seems like he’s in campaign mode already and using the trump playbook minus the bluster and blunders
  16. Happy Friday! Joe Biden doesn't seem to realize 350 M is greater than the population of the entire U.S. Could you imagine what would happen if DeSantis made a similar mistake?
  17. "There’s nothing more permanent than a temporary government program." Hence why I have fought against ridiculous rules and mandates from the very beginning. Government doesn't just give power back, it seeks to build off of what it has gained. People thought those who warned about these "passports" were conspiracy theorists until it became a real policy. The slippery slope is a real thing when it comes to government and power.
  18. 'Liberal'. TBH, most of what is being done in Canada is implemented on the provincial level, with the federal government trying to push provincial governments this way and that (similar to the U.S.). The Trudeau government wanted to grab more emergency powers, but the provinces shut them down. But it doesn't matter - the provinces have been plenty draconian themselves.
  19. I am just so worried for what the next year is going to look like. I would be so absolutly ashamed of my self if I voted for biden and or the liberal governments in canada and austrailia that I wouldnt leave the house because of the extreme steps that are being taken. I pray everyday that some sense of normalcy will come back and people will start to wake up but unfortantly I do not believe that will happen
  20. It's still going because various governments around the world have an agenda, and that agenda hasn't been fully realized yet. They want medical passes. Masks create fear and compliance. That's why they're back - it's difficult to convince people harsh measures are necessary if things seem more or less normal - if everyone's smiling, you're engaging in small talk, and so on. mRNA (or whatever) treatments allow an opportunity for verification that one has an mRNA (or whatever) treatment. That's why they're being pushed so hard (80% isn't good enough, they need 100%). Need for verification of a medical treatment leads to domestic medical passes. Domestic medical passes lead to unprecedented political control.
  21. Best I’ve heard desantis talk. By 2024, if they try to paint Ron as this evil guy who messed up covid for Floridians, they will not win. It will not be a winning message. Add on inflation, Biden’s age and his spending craziness and this will be a fairly easy election. I question how much COVID will be a factor in 2024, I mean.. we’re going into 2022 still dealing with it. Biden’s team has messed this up declaring victory on 4th of July.
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