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In the "YOUR PLATFORM" section, me, Swing Voter, Keyes 2008,and SSVegeta123243 had a debate on Same-Sex Marriage. Who won?  

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  1. 1. In the "YOUR PLATFORM" section, me, Swing Voter, Keyes 2008,and SSVegeta123243 had a debate on Same-Sex Marriage. Who won?

    • SSVegeta/Kerry/Swing
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    • Keyes 2008
      6
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are people still talking about this? this thing is old as hell but i do agree with u on one point keyes this board does have too many people with the same type of thinking almost all of the conservative americans have stopped posting i mean i'm a democrat and i'm probably the third most conservative person on the board behind u and hrc and hrc has turned soft on the issues

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Ah... the archetypical Conservative who can only think about his "glorious past" and refuses to move on, a past which "gloriousness" only exists in his own mind.

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Ah... the archetypical Conservative who can only think about his "glorious past" and refuses to move on, a past which "gloriousness" only exists in his own mind.

This coming from a self-confessed socialist - one of only a few such dinosaurs left in the world.

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Mantis, socialists make up governments in about half of western europe countries and strong oppositions in the rest, so I'm not the only one. Also, calling a socialist a "dinosaur" is like calling an informatician a "fire-adoring neanderthal".

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Mantis, socialists make up governments in about half of western europe countries and strong oppositions in the rest, so I'm not the only one. Also, calling a socialist a "dinosaur" is like calling an informatician a "fire-adoring neanderthal".

Few of those people are as far left as you are, Simon.

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If you, and your socialistic comrades, were the kind of people to cater for the happenings of tomorrow... I would begin to genuinely fear for the future of my children.

Same here! :)

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Conservatism has led the world to the border of the chasm many times before, Keyes, and if it's what you lot are heading for, then we truly are doomed. Socialism, in its moderate form, whether it was called social-democracy, the Welfare State or the "New Deal", has saved the system you so clearly hold on to by changing it, leading to the greatest increase in the living standards since the beginning of time. When the system Conservatives tried to upheld was crumbling, pushing people to the extremes of communism and fascism, it was socialism that saved the day for democracy by showing that, no, we didn't need totalitarian governments to save us from the disaster that blind conservative faith in the market had led us into.

So-called "socialist" countries, for all their faults, were still better off as they were before they decided to convert to the failed ideology of free market capitalism Conservatives love so much. So much worse are they now that the life expectancy has fallen terribly in Russia, which will cause more premature deaths than the estimates of the Stalinian purge. You lay "broken lives" and "decimated economies" on the back of socialism, look around Keyes, this is the heritage of conservatism on the world that we socialists have had to clean up and the job is so immense we are not yet done with it.

The efforts of socialists everywhere, in the strengthening of union movements, in the creation of strong and universal public services, in the creation of a more humane and social economy, have led societies to reach standards of livings never before dreamed of. This is our heritage and on which we can go foreward and still build an even better world, you Conservatives only get in our way.

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