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and now on kerry u call the man a flip flopper because he decides to change his mind instead of continuing on the same path but wouldn't u rather have a guy that changes his mind and finds the right path than the guy that blindly continues down the wrong one. oh Vietnam kerry saw the horrors of war and we he came back he tried his best to stop other Americans from experiencing the same thing unlike mister bush who choose the cowards path bush has created more new terrorist over the past 4 years than bin laden could do in a life time

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Actaully Bush IS a man of God and will defend our nation from secular evils (ie. same-sex marriage, abortion etc.)

Thats what I'm afraid of. Roll on the fall of the Coalition of the Willing.... one down, three to go.

(I did not vote for John Howard. If I was an American I would not have voted for George Bush. If I was British I *might* have voted for Tony Blair but certainly not now....)

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I just wanted to make an observation about some earlier posts on this thread. I created the Confederate Election Scenario - 1866. A few people have pointed out my many errors on it (thank you so much for doing that) <- Sarcastic Undertone. I loosly based the scenario off of the novel The Guns Of The South. My scenario is an "alternate history scenario" which means things happen different from our timeline. Maybe in my story, the Confederates managed to take WV, Missouri, and Kentucky...

And for those who said "enough slavery" I imagine your the kind of people who would like to see slavery alive today. There is never enough talk about something evil until it is abolished...

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Stabbed in the back? At least he fought!

" I know how hard it is to put food on your families"

" They never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we"

" If Al Gore invented the internet, why do all of the websites begin with W?"

" Will the highways of the internet become more few?"

" When I was elected president, I knew the storm clouds over the horizon would be directed overhead"

-George Bush #43

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I find the Constitution Party interesting - How does it differ from the Republican Party?

They realize how far out of the mainstream they are.

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hard right i don't think u offended anybody (unless there are muslims playing this game) and your right this game is awesome and i can't wait until the next update

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but the bible also says that u should sell your daughter into slavery and it says u should be stoned to death for working on sunday i don't like gay people and i have no homosexual friends but that doesn't give me the right to go in there bed room and tell them what is right

SSVegeta123243,

Lets back the truck up a minute and not go grabbing verses here and there...

You are correct, Sodomites were to be put to death and to break the Sabbath (to the Hebrews and in reality the acutal Sabbath is Saturday but we Christians worship on Sunday to commemorate the 1st day of the week when Jesus Christ arose from the dead!). Notice what sins (under the Mosaic Law) were sins punishable by death:

A. Sins against life.

1. Murder. - Genesis 9:5, 6; Numbers 35:16-21, 30-33; Deuteronomy 17:6 (Please note that this does NOT include a baby in the womb Exodus 21:22-23! This viewpoint is not to be construed as an argument FOR abortion. If the baby is born dead (stillborn) then that is God's Will, if it is born alive - the same. We human beings are not to interfere with that process of who should live or die at birth. Now Capital punishment for murder (today) is a different thing that is under the Noahic Covenant in Gen. 9:5-6 which was NOT given to Israel but to the WORLD. So capital punishment is OK it is not murder.)

> A note of explanation should be inserted here. In the KJV it reads in Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill. The Bible is not contradictory it is a wrong TRANSLATIOn of a word. Notice: KATAL in Hebrew is KILL while RATSACH in hebrew is MURDER. The word in Exodus 20:13 is RATSACH which by translation is MURDER.

2. Offering human sacrifice. Leviticus 20:2-5

B. Sexual sins.

1. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:24

2. Incest. Leviticus 20:11, 12, 14

3. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19; Leviticus 20:15, 16

4. Sodomy (homosexual behavior). Leviticus 18:22; 20:13

5. Rape. Deuteronomy 22:25

6. Fornication. Leviticus 21:9

7. Unchastity Deuteronomy 22:21-24

C. Spiritual sins.

1. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18

2. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20

3. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:11-14, 16, 23

4. Desecration of the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2; Numbers 15:32-36

5. Promoting false doctrines or false prophecy. Deuteronomy 13:1-10

D. Sins against society.

1. Perjury. Zechariah 5:4

2. Theft. Zechariah 5:3, 4

3. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16; Deuteronomy 24:7

4. Contempt of court. Deuteronomy 17:12

5. Treason. 1 Kings 2:25; Esther 2:23

6. Sedition. Acts 5:36, 37

E. Sins against one's parents.

1. Cursing a parent. Leviticus 20:9; Exodus 21:17

2. Physically abusing one's parent. Exodus 21:15

3. Disobeying parents. Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Also yes the Scripture talks of people selling 'servants' and 'maidservants' and even a daughter (but it says IF - 3rd class conditional clause - "Maybe you will and maybe you won't" - Exodus 21:7) we must remember the times in which the Bible was written. The Scripture (or the Old Law) also tells Masters of Hebrew slaves to release their slaves every Jubilee (each 7th year) in Exodus 21:2. Also Paul the Apostle admonishes Philemon to recieve Onesimus (a runaway slave) as a brother in Christ and to forgive him of that which he had stolen. In Colossians 3:22-25 it tells "servants" or slaves to obey their masters doing their work unto the Lord and in Colossians 4:1-6 Paul tells the Masters to be good unto their "servants" or slaves.

So slavery was a part of society in Biblical times and we can draw applications from the Word of God to our society today when it speaks of Slavery. For example when I teach or preach from Colossians 3:23-25 I give the actual Interpretation: slavery. Then I give the application today: Christian Work Ethic.

Also, the Believer whether Pastor or not it is NOT our duty to tell the World how to live the WORLD is Lost and cannot understand the Word of God. The Bible is written for the Believer to OBEY.

Well, you brought up the LAW. Remember We as Believers are NOT under the Old Mosaic Law. (The 10 Commandments are given to the WORLD and are the only laws governments need to protect the 4 Divine Institutions of Free Will, Marriage, Family and Nationhood) the Laws of Numbers, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are given to the Hebrews. Why should we bother with the Old Law if we are not "under it?" Well, the Old Law reveals what SIN is and what the penalty is for many of those sins.

So the Old Testament tells our heritage, history, scientific truths, the foundation of Christianity, Prophecy (the NT cannot be interpreted without it) and it tells us how to recognize the Christ. So we see Jesus was who He said He was - The Son of God.

But Jesus told the Church we are no longer under the PENALTY of DEATH of the Old Law because HE FULFILLED It. He did not DESTROY it because we can still use it (the Law) to identify Sin. See Matthew 5:17.

Jesus did not come to condemn the world either (we as Believers are not supposed to condemn the PEOPLE of the world but we CONDEMN the SIN but not the person) John 3:17 - For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Again God gave us ALL Free Will and the Sodomites CHOOSE to be that way they CHOOSE to go on their own path we all will CHOOSE to sin or NOT to Sin. So No we as believers cannot tell anyone else what to do because the Bible already tells us all we are to do is to relay the message 1st: of God's Love, 2: Christ's Work and the Gift of Salvation; and 3: to grow as believers in the Grace (getting what we do not deserve) and Knowledge of Christ so we can apply that knowledge in our everyday life so it can be converted into Wisdom.

Thus the failure of many believers - they go out and become busybodies because they are still babes (babies) in Christ and are not growing. They seek to turn the world to Jesus where in turn they turn the world away because when I or anyone else by our own power and strength attempt to do something it will falter and fail but when we do the same under the Power of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Filling of the Holy Spirit then we can do that which God has called us to do as believers.

Also, when we "tell them what is right" it is not OUR message or what "WE THINK" is right it is ABSOLUTE TRUTH because GOD has decreed it. Thus another fallacy of our society. Everyone blames society or environment or etc. Instead when we ourselves make choices and decisions which have consequences.

God Bless. I remain,

In His Mercy,

Creighton

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And for those who said "enough slavery" I imagine your the kind of people who would like to see slavery alive today. There is never enough talk about something evil until it is abolished...

broadwayboy87,

Well yes that's all that statment is: a figment of your imagination. Im tired of Propaganda and "Winner write all Histories" as I told SSvegeta123243, there are 2 sides to every coin and we've all heard the Northern side we Southerners have been attempting to tell our side of the story ever since 1865!

I do not want to see slavery returned I'm just tired of having it thrust in my face again and again and again when I and my ancestors didn't have slaves.

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but i disagree with u about islam. islam is just as peaceful as christianity the koran (maybe spelled wrong) teaches peace and those terrorist out there are working against the religion not for it. most terrorist don't become terrorist because thats what the koran tells them they become terrorist because they live in war torn poverish countries and they feel they can sacrifice their lives, make a difference, and go to heaven and live happy

SSVegeta123243,

Jesus taught his disciples (those who love Him are those who keep his Commandments and are able to abide in His Love (that means you'll be able to love everyone no matter how they are or treat you) - John 13:34-35; John 14:15,21,23-24; John 15:10)

Yet the Koran teaches nothing of the sort. Muslims do not believe Christ is the Saviour thus according to the Word (John 14:6 - they are lost).

Muslims believe that Christians are idolators because of the Trinity. Thus in the Koran the best sure-fire way to get to Heaven is to murder (Jihad - go on a holy war) against Christians (people 'of the book' in the Koran) and Jews.

I'll point you to a great site that seeks to answer the statment that Isalm is peaceful: http://answering-islam.org.uk/TWOR/peacepromoting.html

Of course it seems as if the Catholics in the Inqusitition took from Islamic tactics "forcing people to believe in Christ." That's not evangelism that's destruction of Privacy, disobedience to the 4 Divine Institutions and disobeying God. We cannot force people into our Faith or our beliefs. We are to live the Christian life as Believers and stand up for God's word and share the Good News (the Gospel) but in order for others to listen they must desire to do so and then have "ears to hear what the Spirit sayeth."

Also, in the latter portion of your quote yo uare blaming environment and society for producing terrorists. That is not so. They choose to do that. The buck has to stop somewhere and we ourselves are the buck. We can blame things and others while alive but if saved in Christ, we'll give an account for our good deeds done and if we did them for show, outside of the Filling of the Holy Spirit (then that is Man's Works) or pride and then they'll burn. If lost then Good deeds is what you stand on to get into Heaven and since we are all born sinners (thanks to Adam and the Original Sin passed down to every human being by the man in his "seed" (Isaiah 64:6) then we are condemned already (John 3:18, Romans 8:3).

Jesus is the exception because He was born of a Virgin. (Isaiah 7:14)

I remain,

In His Mercy,

Creighton

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I find the Constitution Party interesting - How does it differ from the Republican Party?

We are 100% pro-life, Pro-constitution, abolish IRS, no gun control.

The Republocrat (or Demopublican) is not standing on the Constitution nor is it stadning for what it right. It 'winks' at the wrong and sold its sould to Satan for votes! God have mercy on George Bush (and John Kerry).

Its a sad day when none of our politicans (or the majority of preachers) have a backbone and are willing to stand up for ABSOLUTE TRUTHS!

Anybody see the CORONATION of the False Messiah - Sun Myung Moon in the Federal US Senate Dirksen Office Bldg? What an atrocity! I warned the congregation under my care and yammered at my congressmen & women to no avail they're all cowards no matter if they are Dems or Reps "there's not a dime's worth of difference" (The Late Gov. George C. Wallace).

If you like what you see go to: www.constitutionparty.com or www.peroutka2004.com

-Creighton

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The Constitution Party is interesting. I tend to agree with them, though, about as much as I agree with Kerry, (on ~30% of the issues).

False Messiah? I'm not sure what Sun Myung Moon was coronated as...maybe I'm a little behind on my news...

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No you're not behind MattyN, the major networks 'blacked it out" until Politics1.com and another reporter: John Gorenfield, began leaking the information.

See the pictures stories and all at: http://www.politics1.com/blog-0604a.htm (Look for MOON SHOT) Even when the Dems and Reps put forth that gross falsified interpretation of church & state they don't even "follow their own preaching" by having Moon crowned as "Lord of Lords" and "King of Kings!" This is revolting, disgusting and sickening! Christ is the only Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

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Hardrightconservative,

Thanks. I tell yall I'm only 22 and even I can see the evil that is rampant. Those who are 40+ years older than me have witnessed much more change. Thus one of the reasons we are where we are...we believers have compromised with the world (when we are to be seperate from the world) and taken its tactics and applied them in our churches, turning them into corporations and managing churches and the lives of the flock instead of leading them by a Godly lifestyle and ministry.

When God called me to preach in 1 Timothy 4:12-16 I cried out and said Lord these are the latter days when there will be the great apostasy and falling away! The Lord comforted my heart in His Word. We can't win over the whole world and never will but we MUST stand firm upon His Word and be the lights in the darkness to a hopeless and fallen world. If we can touch one person at a time by helping them, being there for them in time of need, being that friend "that loveth at all times," and by not compromising our testimony for a short season, then its worth it all.

As for my politics, my moral and Faith influence it so why compromise there and vote the lesser of 2 evils when evil is evil? As long as we do what the Word of God commands then the Lord can even use ungodly "kings" to do His Will. So a Kerry presidency (or Bush re-election, Peroutka triumph, Cobb, Nader, Badnarick, etc win) doesn't overwhelm me because the Lord still reigns and can remove or allow the leaders to stay in office. I'm more concerned about my citizenzhip of Heaven and how I'm pleasing the Supreme President Potentate: Jesus Christ than I am some measly little pawn in Washington who thinks he leads the 'free' world. Regardless who the President is (or the opponent for that matter) we still must pray for them all (1 Timothy 2:1-3, Matt. 5:44). Well, I've 'blogged' or 'preached' long enough. May the Lord Bless yall in His Sovereign timing. I remain,

In Christ's Mercy,

Creighton

-Pastor, Danieltown Baptist Church

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Hardrightconservative,

But remember based on the 5 cycles of discipline (this tells why nations rise and fall), its not the leaders that keep a nation free, it is the believers and whether or not they are obeying and doing God's Will.

See more about the 5 Cycles of Divine Discipline at: http://www.gracenotes.info/topics/fivecycles.html

Thus it is that we place our trust in the Lord instead of man. Remember He said in Isaiah 54:17: that "no weapon formed against you shall prosper" so it is in context that nobody would be able to harm Isaiah while he was doing God's will and the same goes for all of us today in the fact that the body is not the real you our Soul is the real us, thus since the Soul lives forever (with or apart from God) then truly NO weapon can harm (the real) you. :) Some folks try that with self-inflicted wounds, snake handling from Mark's Gospel and so on "tempting God" while it is all lunacy.

A nation IS however permitted to defend its freedom when attacked. Any other war is not a righteous war.

By the way, the war on terrorism will never be won because it is not simply a nation that can be crushed it is an ideology that springs forth from an unrepentant heart that is cold and hardened. No to defeat terrorism instead of bombs we and the Gospel, after converting the terrorists then perhaps they will leave their former ways to the way of true righteousness.

Also Bush and many other presidents (Lincoln in the Invasion of the CSA, Bush I in the 1st Gulf War, Ike in Korea, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon in Vietnam) simply declare war without Congress declaring WAR. That is Unconstitutional.

Finally, since Bush is President he has my prayers he is our leader until he is removed, I will not undermine our leaders by activism but the unholy, evil, and unconstitutional deeds I will continue to stand against. God Bless.

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After hearing many of the candidates speak, I can say completely unbiased that the two most charismatic candidates this year were John Edwards and Michael Peroutka.

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Edwards sounded great. I agree. But to ultimately accomplish what he proposed we might as well become the Union of Socialist States of America!

I see how he made his money dut that silver tongue.

But Mr. Peroutka is in the lawyer trade as well: Peroutka & Peroutka (P & P just don't go good together!) Law Offices in Maryland.

He has charisma also I agree and for us to accomplish what "My man Mike" is saying well, we'll need to get tough and serious about our nation because a lot of lazy people will have to get jobs and a lotta churches will need to start helping folks out like we need to.

I LIKE MIKE (PEROUTKA)! :)

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constitution party? u ever hear of separation of church and state. and what exactly is god's will? the bible? the book that man wrote and chose what goes in and what doesn't the book that preaches murder and prejudice. now i'm not one of those crazy atheist that wants to see the destruction of all religions but i think u shouldn't mix politics with religion (but we should keep the 10 commandments in federal buildings)

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i have another question. why do people always say the soliders are fighting in iraq to protect our freedoms? which 1 of our freedoms were threatened by saddam? was he going to invade america with his mystery wmd's and take away our free press? now i was for invading iraq because saddam had to be taken care of but i hate bogus reasons for war and there is no excuse for the death of 950 americans.

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He was planning to attack the US. The Russians had intelligence that stated that Saddam was going to attack us, either internally or externally, possibly through terrorist means. Putin told us, even if he still opposed us entering into Iraq. It was actually on the News, for a day or so.

There is no Separation of Church and State in the Constitution. There is an establishment clause, so that there can be no state religion, yet NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say that man can not form laws based on religion or with a moral basis. Nowhere.

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yes all americans should fear saddam and his vast terrorist network i guess we got to him just in time saddam was contained and only people that saddam was a threat to were iraqi's but like i said saddam should have been taken care of but there is no reason 950 americans should have died to do it

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ya and the constitution also doesn't say anything about civil rights should we also disregard that? i believe if u use your religion to make political decisions u ignore all other religions so that's why i believe in separation

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