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I agree. That would be pretty awesome. Sweden, Holland, France, Italy, New Zealand, Japan and MExico would also be cool! B)

Those are also good ideas. I also think Slovenia, Ireland, and Wales would be fun.... Not to mention Russia ( bad news for Putin ;):angry: ! I dislike Putin, Russia's next dictator.) or Spain.

ANGRY! ANGRY!ANGRY! :angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

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Face it Russia is gonna return to communism, that's what my teacher says, but that's just opinion.

I agree. B)

That would certainly make the socialists happy! :D I doubt that they will ever go back down that road. It was nearly the ruin of them the first time, I don't think the average Russian is likely to be willing to give up his/her rights that easily.

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What are they givng to Putin, their rights?

They aren't. Putin is doing a pretty good job. Given that he won re-election quite handily, the average Russian seems to agree.

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So having an independwent media is not a right, what about free and fair elections, even most conservatives will agree that the man is becomeinga dctator, hell even the president said he does not like Putins crack down on rights, oh another area having his only major political opponent thrown in prison before elctions, seems to me like rights are being violated.

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So having an independwent media is not a right, what about free and fair elections, even most conservatives will agree that the man is becomeinga dctator, hell even the president said he does not like Putins crack down on rights, oh another area having his only major political opponent thrown in prison before elctions, seems to me like rights are being violated.

That is a lot of conjecture and not a lot of substance. For the record, the Communists did FAR WORSE when they were in power. At least Putin has yet to jail or execute anyone for voting against him.

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So now he has gone from good job to better than communists, also he hasn't had as much time.

It doesn't take much to be better than a communist.

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It was nearly the ruin of them the first time, I don't think the average Russian is likely to be willing to give up his/her rights that easily.

Communism was the thing that made Russia a superpower and that led it to ruin after peaking. Let's be clear on this, pre-USSR Russia was a monarchy where the majority of the economy resided on agricultural output, technologically backwards. In WWI, russian soldiers surrendered in droves because they were better treated and were given more things by the Germans than they were by their own side. Compare that to the Red Army that out-produced the Germans, that made the tank that would be the most produced of the war (move over Sherman, it's the T-34) and rebuilt itself while still waging a war.

Why do you think most Russians still believe that Stalin was a positive figure of their history? It's not only because of propaganda, it's because he gave Russia a strong army, an important industrial sector and created a space program that would be in front of the American one until the moon-landing. The human cost was enormous, we can't silence that fact, and it is unacceptable, but unfortunately, factories remain when all the voices have been silenced.

What did it in for soviet communism was corruption and the repressive state. The solution of course was democracy, and this is what most Soviets wanted in the 80s, a socialist democracy, just like the protesters of Tienanmen place in China.

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Imagine how much better they could have done without communism. Stalin nearly lost the country during the second world war because he had purged and executed most of the competent officers in the red army and all he was left with was terrified (of him) party hacks. The Russians only prevailed against the Germans due to the bravery of the individual Russian soldiers who managed to succeed despite Stalin.

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Imagine how much better they could have done without communism.

They would never have become a superpower without communism. Communism made Russia great and led it to ruin. This is why many Russians are nostalgic of the old USSR.

Under capitalism, it would never have developped because there was no capital to invest and with which the economy could have developped. It would have remained a large country with an uneducated people and an agrarian economy.

The Russians only prevailed against the Germans due to the bravery of the individual Russian soldiers who managed to succeed despite Stalin.

Actually, Russian soldiers were so "brave" because Stalin would order retreating soldiers shot down and those who surrendered would be tried as traitors when they were "liberated". Then, there was this whole industry that made something like 10 T-34 for each Tiger the Germans made. The fact is, Stalin's ruthlessness became an advantage fighting the Germans, not that I agree with his policies and his tyranny. Simply that I learned to see positive and negative things and to recognize them, even in the worst regimes. Nothing is completely black, and nothing completely white, reality is more complex than that.

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Then, there was this whole industry that made something like 10 T-34 for each Tiger the Germans made.

I think that had more to do with the fact that the allies were bombing the hell out of Germany's industrial centres than with anything that Stalin did or did not do. Had Stalin not purged the cream of the crop of the red army officer corps and had not pointlessly sent tens of thousands of troops to be slaughtered in what amounted to mass suicides, they would have had a much easier time of beating the Germans.

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I think that had more to do with the fact that the allies were bombing the hell out of Germany's industrial centres than with anything that Stalin did or did not do.

Bit of both, the Soviets made tanks quicker than any other countries, including the US (and I'd take a T-34/85 over a Sherman any day of the week), and the German war industry was damaged because of bombardments. Still, some sources do say that the air campaign was ineffective, that the German industry was extremely resilient.

Had Stalin not purged the cream of the crop of the red army officer corps and had not pointlessly sent tens of thousands of troops to be slaughtered in what amounted to mass suicides, they would have had a much easier time of beating the Germans.

Stalin's purges had taken a lot out of the Red Army, but the human wave strategy was one that worked, it ended sieges quickly that could have taken months and made a lot more casualties. As a military strategy, it worked, but its human merits are low, it shows how little Stalin thought of his soldiers' lives.

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if the creators were to tie in a PM4E engine to the PF engine, couldent they create an american Presidential and Congressional election?

Perhaps the next PM4E could be a US Congressional Election simulation

or, if possible, something that uses the Porportional Representation in New Zealand

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Hi Pellaken,

Yes, a President Forever with Congressional districts is a possibility. Also, a PR system is a possibility.

Thanks,

Anthony Burgoyne

80soft.com

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Hi Pellaken,

Yes, a President Forever with Congressional districts is a possibility. Also, a PR system is a possibility.

Thanks,

Anthony Burgoyne

80soft.com

Hi Anthony,

Firstly want to say loving PM Forever. Secondly, I have a question re: PM: UK. Will it feature more than 4 parties? I ask this because Ireland obvious doesn't elect Conservatives or Labour politicians and Scotland has a sizeable second-party, the Scottish Nationalist Party. With the rise of UKIP into the bargain that's essentially 9 major parties (taking into account the regions: New Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, SNP, Sinn Fein, Ulster Unionists, DUP, UKIP, Plaid Cymru).

All the best,

Aidan Brack.

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Communism was the thing that made Russia a superpower and that led it to ruin after peaking. Let's be clear on this, pre-USSR Russia was a monarchy where the majority of the economy resided on agricultural output, technologically backwards.

On the other hand, from 1905-1914, Russia was growing faster economically than it did during most of the communist era. It's at least possible that it would have done better than the USSR given a longer lease on life. Russia seemed destined to become a superpower almost no matter what -- certainly the commentators of the 19th century thought so, constantly pointing to it and the United States as the future.

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Hi Pellaken,

Yes, a President Forever with Congressional districts is a possibility. Also, a PR system is a possibility.

Thanks,

Anthony Burgoyne

80soft.com

Hi Anthony,

Firstly want to say loving PM Forever. Secondly, I have a question re: PM: UK. Will it feature more than 4 parties? I ask this because Ireland obvious doesn't elect Conservatives or Labour politicians and Scotland has a sizeable second-party, the Scottish Nationalist Party. With the rise of UKIP into the bargain that's essentially 9 major parties (taking into account the regions: New Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, SNP, Sinn Fein, Ulster Unionists, DUP, UKIP, Plaid Cymru).

All the best,

Aidan Brack.

I'm not the one to give you the answer, but I can speculate all I want ;)

A version of President Forever will be released some time soon, where you can run as a candidate in the primaries. This would mean more than four candidates would have to be able to run at one time, meaning the programming - in President Forever at least - was in place to include in excess of four parties/candidates.

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