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Couple of ideas I had while playing....I'm not code literate, so I don't know how hard it woudl be to put these ideas in....

-Make the ridings easier to navigate....doing 4 at a time is cool for Nova Scotia or New Brunswick, but it's kinda hard to go through so many pages when it comes to Ontario. Maybe even a text search, or a riding watcher to make it easier.

-More parties would be cool, I'd say the max should be 6 or so.

-A career mode as mentioned earlier...

-More ad options, like a broad attack, etc.

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One more idea is for the "Abortion" issue in Canada, at least. Since the law is very vague/non-existent, would it be better to have.....(L-R, of course)

Draft legislation protecting Abortion rights

Keep the situation as is

Limit abortions to first two trimesters

Only in case of rape or incest

Draft legistlation to ban abortion

or

Entrench Abortion rights in Constitution

Draft legislation protecting Abortion rights

Keep the situtation as is

Only in case of rape or incest

Draft legistlation to ban abortion

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One more idea is for the "Abortion" issue in Canada, at least.  Since the law is very vague/non-existent, would it be better to have.....(L-R, of course)

Draft legislation protecting Abortion rights

Keep the situation as is

Limit abortions to first two trimesters

Only in case of rape or incest

Draft legistlation to ban abortion

or

Entrench Abortion rights in Constitution

Draft legislation protecting Abortion rights

Keep the situtation as is

Only in case of rape or incest

Draft legistlation to ban abortion

Good idea!

What I currently have is:

Unrestricted access to abortions.

Legal abortions in first two trimesters only.

Counselling will be required before abortion is allowed.

No legal abortions, except for the mother's health or due to rape.

No legal abortions ever!

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And while we're on the subject of platforms, here are a few others I have that are different than the default.

I changed "Balanced Budget" to "Debt Reduction" and listed:

Who cares about the debt! Huge increase in funding or tax cuts!

A small deficit is acceptable.

Balance the budget, let economic growth reduce the debt.

Use much of the surplus to lower the debt.

Huge spending cuts! Make debt repayment our #1 priority!

Education:

Education is a right! Make university free!

Reduce tuition fees with increased federal funds for education.

Put more money into the Canada Student Loan program.

Cut back education funding. Encourage family savings.

No federal funding for post-secondary education.

Slight change to gun control:

We need more gun control than just a registry!

Maintain registry, no matter what the cost!

Maintain registry, but cap costs and public inquiry into overruns.

Get rid of gun registry, increase funding to RCMP!

Get rid of gun registry, and reduce other gun control.

Military Funding:

Use Iceland's example and disband military. Canada stands for peace!

We should decrease military funding.

Keep military budget the same, but be more efficient.

Increase the military budget. Look into new technology.

Significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.

Military Intervention:

Keep the Canadian military in Canada.

For humanitarian causes only.

For humanitarian causes and peacekeeping approved by the UN.

If our national interests are threatened, no need for UN approval.

We can and should use our military might to further our own interests.

Healthcare:

Healthcare should be 100% public!

Allow existing private health clinics, but discourage further privatization.

Allow a private system to exist, but focus on the public sector.

Allow both public and private healthcare equally. Two-tier works best.

Reduce public health-care funding. Work toward 100% private.

SSM:

Abolish marriage, it's a useless institution.

Withdraw Supreme Court questions; whip party to vote in favour.

Wait for decision by Supreme Court before proceeding.

Withdraw Supreme Court questions; allow free vote to party.

We must constitutionally entrench the traditional definition of marriage!

Slight change to US Relations:

Reduce ties and trade with the US. Become closer with the EU.

We should stand up to the US more often.

We should strive to improve our relationship with the US

Create ministry for US-Canada relations, aim at customs union.

All the way with the USA!

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Couple of ideas I had while playing....I'm not code literate, so I don't know how hard it woudl be to put these ideas in....

-Make the ridings easier to navigate....doing 4 at a time is cool for Nova Scotia or New Brunswick, but it's kinda hard to go through so many pages when it comes to Ontario.  Maybe even a text search, or a riding watcher to make it easier.

-More parties would be cool, I'd say the max should be 6 or so.

-A career mode as mentioned earlier...

-More ad options, like a broad attack, etc.

the ridings thing is a good idea. I've suggested before a table. Right now, they have about 25 lines on the page. Each riding has 4 candidate spots, one for the undecideds, and a spacer. I'm proposing a table. here's an example

this is what I dont want:

Liberal - John Doe - 20%

Conservative - Jane Smith - 20%

NDP - Ron Roe - 20%

this is what I do want

Riding ---- Lib - Con - NDP

Toronto North - 20 - 20 - 20

South Calgary - 30 - 20 - 10

East Halifax - 20 - 10 - 30

etc

if they did it this way, you would need one more click. you can click on the riding's name, and it would bring up a screen for that riding. The line table, like current, can be shown at the top of that riding, as well as newer and larger buttons for targetting the riding, etc.

As for more then 4 parties, I do think that it should be expanded beyond 4 to somthing rather then to infinity. Provincially in Canada you never have more then 4 parties. Federally, we have had many elections with 5 competitive parties and some with 6. The UK has had 6 parties competing on britain, and an additional 5 in northern ireland. When you get into Northern Ireland the devlopers have a choice. to expand the number of parties radically, or to make "mostly realistic compromises" Why cant the SDLP be controlled by Labour. why cant the UUP be controlled by the Conservatives. Why cant the Alliance be controlled by the Liberals. I think you could do the entire UK with 8 parties, max.

Allowing for 8 parties would allow for almost every country in almost every situation to be covered. I think that 8 is a great number for a maximum. I also think that each scenario should come with the option of weather parties even have a leader. This is useful for independents. If a party does not have a leader, then you cannot pick it, nor will it participate in debates, etc. The leader's photo and name would be replaced with the word "INDEPENDENT"

I think that I'm smart enough to change the colours of the parties myself. I played a game called Civilizaiton II, and in order to change the colour of a Civ, all you have to do is change the colour of the proper pixel on the flag. I've noticed each flag's name co-orisponds with its colour, hence my theory is if you made a new flag all purple, named it purple, that purple would now be a pickable colour. I'm actually too lazy to try this though :P but assuming it is that simple, the team could come out with 12 colours for us to play around with or so.

See more on this later...

As for improving the ad's, I agree. More then just a TV ad. There should be Newspaper ad's, and Radio ad's, which should be cheaper and quicker/easier to make.

Part of this issue - I'd like to see Toronto seperated from Ontario for advertising purposes. I know last time I suggested that, it literally turned into one of these: "what about montreal" "well if montreal is going, so should vancouver" "if vancouver is going, we should take more off of ontario" "if your taking more off of ontario, you need to take edmonton and calgary off" "if your taking them two, take off winnipeg" "if your doing winnipeg, take off halifax" Now folks, halifax has 2 ridings, so you can see how silly this gets. I'd propose the city of Toronto (23 ridings) and the Mississauga area beside Toronto (an additional 8 ridings for 31) be seperated out. This would leave a 31 seat Toronto and a 75 seat Ontario. If you guys wanted to, you could add some 905 area ridings, which would result in more ridings, again see more on this later (AKA in my next post) I'd be ok with Montreal being seperated out, but only if that's where it stops. More is too much. There should be a minimum limit of 20 ridings for any cities being taken out - Vancouver would not qualify, and if it ever does, there should also be a limit that there must be at least 20 ridings remaining - meaning Vancouver wont be included till BC gets 40 seats.

As for the carrer mode, I think I outlined my ideas earlier. With 8 parties, you could do this in a great way. I do think that there should be a little bit of governing involved, but not much. Each season (4 a year) should be a "turn" and each party can make a decision per turn. You could also change your position on one issue just before each election for free. Some issues would dissapear, and new ones would appear. There coule be a bank built of 50 issues with each party having a preset position. Like in australia, each party should have a relation value. The closer the better for any post-election negotiations. IRL I'd say only the Liberals and NDP would be close enough to form an "government" while not in coalition officially. The old PC and CA would have been close enough too, perhaps even close enough for a coalition. During the off election times, you can grow closer or farther from parties, or even merge with them if your close enough! The downside of a merger is that your support level would be less then A+B.

I'm going to get some stuff and make another post.

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now this is where I get to do alot of work.

here is each election, provincial or federal, that has ever taken place in canada. I've included the number of competitice parties. I define that number by, firstly, how many parties won seats, and how many had the chance to. Since there is no way I can place a standard on this, I'll use my usually good judgement. If someone wants to challenge an election, feel free. I'm only going to focus on elections with many parties

Yukon

all - 3 parties

PEI

most elections, 2 or 3 parties

NB

between 2 and 4 parties.

4: 1920, 1948, 1974, 1978, 1991, 1995.

NL

2 or 3 parties

NS

almost always 3, a few with 4

SK

wide variance, between 4 and 2. 1938 many parties, but only 4 I see as competitive

MB

Many with 3 or 4

AB

mostly 4 parties, some with 3. Some uncompetitive 5th parties

BC

wide variance.

1920, 5 competetive paties. 1996 and 2000, argually 5 parties.

ON

most elections with 4 or less. 1923, 1926 and 1929 electons all with 5 parties.

PQ

all with 4 or less.

now, each federal election:

1867 - 2

1872 - 2

1874 - 2

1878 - 2

1882 - 2

1887 - 2

1891 - 2

1896 - 3

1900 - 2

1904 - 2

1908 - 2

1911 - 2

1917 - 2

1921 - 4

1925 - 4

1926 - 4

1930 - 4

1935 - 5 *** (Reconstruction)

1940 - 4

1945 - 5 *** (Bloc)

1949 - 4

1953 - 4

1957 - 4

1958 - 4

1962 - 4

1963 - 4

1965 - 4

1968 - 4

1972 - 4

1974 - 4

1979 - 4

1980 - 3

1984 - 3

1988 - 4

1993 - 6 *** (nationalists)

1997 - 5 ***

2000 - 5 ***

2004 - 5 *** (greens)

In the UK, the parties I see are:

Labour

Conservative

Liberal-Democrat

UKIP

Plaid Cymru

SNP

these 6 in britain in northern ireland:

SF

UUP

DUP

SLDP

Alliance

now, you dont need to have 11 parties. If you make the UUP candidates Conservatives, SLDP candidates Labourites, and Alliance candidates Liberals, you end up with 8 parties, which is what I'm suggesting to be the new maximum. With my new reporting suggestion for each riding, the table, adding 4 extra parties shouldent break the bank.

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8 parties could be great. There can't be many changes to make to adapt the game to that number of players. Most scenarios would have to be reworked obviously but I don't think that's a big problem. People who want to stick to smaller games can do so.

I was thinking of doing a scenario for France. There is no way you can have realistic elections legislative or presidential with just four parties. In the last presidential election the most popular candidate had 20% of the vote. There is no way the left could have failed so completely (the socialist leader was beaten by the far right) without having a very fragmented left.

The other problem (not really on topic) is that the election system would be different in France. You have two round election for both president and representatives which creates pretty interesting dynamics. In legislative races you need something like you need 15% of the vote in the first round to go on to the second. I'm not sure if that's possible with the game engine... possibly Australian electoral system is similar and could be tweaked for that purpose.

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why not have it so that slots 5, 6, 7, and 8, in terms of parties, can be totally turned off. this way all old scenarios could still work. It'd also let creators make 5 party games, without having to do anything at all to the 6, 7, or 8 slot. Right now I dont think it's possible to make a game without all 4 slots having something. While you may still require 4 parties, you would not require 8. If this is impossible, a patch could be released that will auto-update your scenario files. load the folder into the program, and it will edit the appropriate files to include "dud" parties, that is parties without any stats just to fill the slots. For colours, I'd suggest adding 8 more colours to give creators more flexability. I suggest Purple, Cyan (for the Bloc), Dark Red, Orange, a Lighter Green, and a Darker Green, (so SF, PC, and SNP in britain can all be a different Green) Brown, and a shade of Gray.

I think these changes would be the most welcome of any of those listed above.

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adding other types of electoral systems would be cool as well.

you can keep the riding list, for Canadian, French, or Australian style elections. This list would also be used for mixed-member PR elections. Pure PR, or electoral college style elections would not use any of the ridings. I think that being able to chose the electoral system would add a new dimension to the game.

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One futher idea for you suggestion, Pellaken (I looked over the tables again) woudl be to have a number next to the percentages to indicate candidate strengh, ie

RIDING-LIBERAL-CONSERV-NDP- BQ-GRE

La La La-20 (5) 40(6) 20(3) 0(0) 20(1)

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You could always have a different limit for numbers of parties in the game and numbers of candidates per riding. While it'd be good to have 16 parties, you could probably make do with no more than 8 or 10 candidates per seat, since many parties will be too small to run in many seats.

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