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How is it that Trump barely acknowledges that Coronavirus even exists, and denounces all of the science behind it...

...And yet somehow also believes that it is so incredibly dangerous that we need to stop having Presidential elections now that he is President?

Golly.

I just can't figure it out.

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Those people might be on to something.  

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Just now, pilight said:

He doesn't have the authority to unilaterally change the election date.  His term ends January 20th whether we've had an election or not.  

Unilaterally, sure.

But he holds both the Senate and the Supreme Court in his fist.  We've already seen that the Senate will let him do whatever he wants.  

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I’m honestly surprised that he is so blatant with it. Makes me think that this is a distraction from something else or providing a scapegoat for if he loses in November more than an actual attempt to delay the election. 

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This is what I brought up before! It's a dictatorial power-grab! He knows he can't win, so he's trying to put it off for as long as possible, while letting the virus kill as many people as is feasible. This is what autocrats do!

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1 hour ago, Herbert Hoover said:

I’m honestly surprised that he is so blatant with it. Makes me think that this is a distraction from something else or providing a scapegoat for if he loses in November more than an actual attempt to delay the election. 

What If Trump supporters sincerely thought the election is delayed and failed to vote? 🤔

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Just now, Sunnymentoaddict said:

What If Trump supporters sincerely thought the election is delayed and failed to vote? 🤔

That would be great!

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1 hour ago, Herbert Hoover said:

I’m honestly surprised that he is so blatant with it. Makes me think that this is a distraction from something else or providing a scapegoat for if he loses in November more than an actual attempt to delay the election. 

There's nothing surprising at all about it.  He's blatant about everything.  To the extent that he actually gets called out on it, it's usually a mixture of "I was joking..." or "You know, a lot of people have been saying it..." or a mixture of both.  "I was joking...but a lot of people have been saying that it's something to look into..."

He doesn't hide it because he doesn't have to.  He will not be held accountable for it, just as he's never been held accountable for anything, in his entire life.

What would you do, if you could do absolutely anything and know for a fact that you would face zero consequences for it?

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2 hours ago, Actinguy said:

How is it that Trump barely acknowledges that Coronavirus even exists, and denounces all of the science behind it...

...And yet somehow also believes that it is so incredibly dangerous that we need to stop having Presidential elections now that he is President?

Golly.

I just can't figure it out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975?fbclid=IwAR1mkW_8mDurG0YRgWZEoW-qlVCIqia9f0L983Qd1oh4IxzkA6VW2PLcaqQ
 

As I had mentioned on another thread just now, from some information I'd gotten just before on another forum, it's not his decision. Congress has full power over the dates of Federal Elections, and the President has no binding involvement in that decision.

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Lowkey tho the delay should happen I mean it cant be constitution but if there is no vaccine or there is a vaccine ready by say, November, then in an ideal world a delay to January/February time would be better

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42 minutes ago, Patine said:

As I had mentioned on another thread just now, from some information I'd gotten just before on another forum, it's not his decision. Congress has full power over the dates of Federal Elections, and the President has no binding involvement in that decision.

You’re imagining a world in which Donald Trump and his allies are following the law.

Why?

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20 minutes ago, wolves said:

Lowkey tho the delay should happen I mean it cant be constitution but if there is no vaccine or there is a vaccine ready by say, November, then in an ideal world a delay to January/February time would be better

This is why we have absentee voting already in place.

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1 hour ago, Actinguy said:

You’re imagining a world in which Donald Trump and his allies are following the law.

Why?

You're imagining a world where he already has a Putin-level of power to ignore all Constitutional limits on his power that annoy him has them pass, more or fiat, alone. I think we're likely somewhere in between those two worlds.

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5 minutes ago, Wiw said:

Let's be honest - he does anyway.

Exactly.  The emoluments clause is virtually non-existent. Let his own campaign manager and lawyer admitting to federal crimes they've committed on his behalf. Or his attempt to redirect Congressional appropriated funds to build a wall. 

The man is a damn joke to conservatism. No damn conservative should look at him and approve what he is doing unless they are as bankrupt as one of Trump's casinos. 

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8 hours ago, Actinguy said:

Unilaterally, sure.

But he holds both the Senate and the Supreme Court in his fist.  We've already seen that the Senate will let him do whatever he wants.  

The Senate, sure.

But the Supreme Court is not even close to being in his fist. Not to mention that the House would never go for it and so far Republican Senators have even been forced to make the not often spoken weak admonition of Trump.

Either way, the Supreme Court is most certainly independent of Trump and partisan bickering and functions as such.

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1 hour ago, Reagan04 said:

The Senate, sure.

But the Supreme Court is not even close to being in his fist. Not to mention that the House would never go for it and so far Republican Senators have even been forced to make the not often spoken weak admonition of Trump.

Either way, the Supreme Court is most certainly independent of Trump and partisan bickering and functions as such.

What does the house do to stop him?  They already impeached him, didn’t matter.

Even the Supreme Court doesn’t matter much if Trump and the Senate just keep doing whatever they want anyway.

 

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5 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

What does the house do to stop him?  They already impeached him, didn’t matter.

Even the Supreme Court doesn’t matter much if Trump and the Senate just keep doing whatever they want anyway.

 

I mean you know how laws work yes? Specifically moving an election?

That is a congressional power and the House would never agree to it. I certainly don't think the Senate would either. And say Trump attempts to move it unilaterally, the court will smack it down. 

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15 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

I mean you know how laws work yes? Specifically moving an election?

That is a congressional power and the House would never agree to it. I certainly don't think the Senate would either. And say Trump attempts to move it unilaterally, the court will smack it down. 

And when he decides to do it anyway?  And his lackeys in the Senate and governors follow suit?

 

Yes, I remember how laws work, though it’s been a few years since we last had a President who gave a shit about them.

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Just now, Actinguy said:

And when he decides to do it anyway?  And his lackeys in the Senate and governors follow suit?

 

Yes, I remember how laws work, though it’s been a few years since we last had a President who gave a shit about them.

I think you're being far too apocalyptic about this. Trump is a wannabe dictator, he'll never get there because Republicans in the Senate won't hedge their bets on postponing the election being a politically good idea.

Trump will be rejected in a landslide in 95 days and all of Washington knows it. His stock and political capital is plummeting as a result. We'll be fine Actinguy, and even if you don't trust the Senate, the House will block it and if not certainly the Supreme Court.

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