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March-April Madness Pres Nominee Tournament Round 1.8

March-April Madness Pres Nominee Tournament Round 1.8  

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  1. 1. Chester A Arthur vs. Michael Dukakis

  2. 2. Harry S Truman vs. John C. Breckinridge

    • Truman
    • Breckinridge
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  3. 3. Benjamin Harrison vs. George McGovern

  4. 4. Abraham Lincoln vs. John Kerry



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Part 8 of the 1st Round

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

Part 8 of the 1st Round

Considering he's the only man whose EVER formally been U.S. President, but never actually run for the office, not even a Tyler-, Andrew Johnson-, or Ford-style ATTEMPT at re-election, Arthur's platform isn't that obvious, except that Garfield's assassin boldly said "the Stalwarts now have power," and that was the faction of the GOP then led by Roscoe Conklin.

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8 minutes ago, Patine said:

Considering he's the only man whose EVER formally been U.S. President, but never actually run for the office, not even a Tyler-, Andrew Johnson-, or Ford-style ATTEMPT at re-election, Arthur's platform isn't that obvious, except that Garfield's assassin boldly said "the Stalwarts now have power," and that was the faction of the GOP then led by Roscoe Conklin.

I think Arthur is underrated. He was kind of a do nothing president, but he did turn his back on his old boss, Roscoe Conkling. This wasn't an easy thing to do considering Conkling's power, which probably played a role in Arthur not being renominated, although his health and relatively lazy work ethic that probably did it. He over saw a lot of innovation in the military. He had some good vetoes. His worst legacy was ignoring Civil Rights, which became the policy for the Republicans with Hayes. They knew blacks wouldn't vote Democrat, so they just stopped trying to win their vote. 

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7 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I think Arthur is underrated. He was kind of a do nothing president, but he did turn his back on his old boss, Roscoe Conkling. This wasn't an easy thing to do considering Conkling's power, which probably played a role in Arthur not being renominated, although his health and relatively lazy work ethic that probably did it. He over saw a lot of innovation in the military. He had some good vetoes. His worst legacy was ignoring Civil Rights, which became the policy for the Republicans with Hayes. They knew blacks wouldn't vote Democrat, so they just stopped trying to win their vote. 

Arthur was actually one of my favorite presidents in the context of his time. He took on corruption like no one expected out a Conkling associated politician from New York. 

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1 minute ago, Herbert Hoover said:

Arthur was actually one of my favorite presidents in the context of his time. He took on corruption like no one expected out a Conkling associated politician from New York. 

He thought his duty as a VP taking over the presidency was to fulfill the fallen president's agenda and not his own. He did alright in this, but he also only worked like 4 hours a day or something like that. Arthur and Coolidge probably had the shortest working hours of any president. Grover Cleveland may have had the longest. 

I'll add @Patine too

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11 minutes ago, vcczar said:

His worst legacy was ignoring Civil Rights, which became the policy for the Republicans with Hayes. They knew blacks wouldn't vote Democrat, so they just stopped trying to win their vote. 

 

2 minutes ago, Herbert Hoover said:

Arthur was actually one of my favorite presidents in the context of his time. He took on corruption like no one expected out a Conkling associated politician from New York. 

Well while he was apathetic to Black Civil Rights, he was hostile to Asian Civil Rights, signing the insidious Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

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3 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

 

Well while he was apathetic to Black Civil Rights, he was hostile to Asian Civil Rights, signing the insidious Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

Although, an even more insidiously named government policy declaration in U.S. history was the Mormon EXTERMINATION Order of 1838 - though that one was an Executive Order by a Missouri Governor and not an Act of Congress signed by a U.S. President, but nasty stuff, nonetheless...

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