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Sanders's Weaker 2020 Bid Good News for Democrats?

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As you know I'm a Sanders supporter that vehemently rejects hashtag NeverDemocrat (whether NeverHillary or NeverJoe) sentiments. Here's a reasons why (see image below). The good news is that there are far fewer Sanders supporters this year, which could translate to a better outcome for Biden.:

 

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

The good news is that there are far fewer Sanders supporters this year

This, on its own, is also a promising trend.

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14 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

This, on its own, is also a promising trend.

I think there are probably some Sanders supporters selecting Biden over Sanders because they feel Biden has a better shot vs. Trump, for whatever reason. I think support of Democratic Socialism has actually increased among Democrats and Independents since 2016. I also think some of Sanders's loss in support is that he isn't generating turnout among his voters. The stereotype is that the typical Sanders supporter is less inclined to vote and go out of their way to fulfill civic duties, mainly because the base of his support is among young voters. Clinton was a more energizing foe than Biden. This might also means that much of Sanders's support in 2016 were independents or Democrats that were agnostic to Socialism and voted Sanders but are voting Biden this time. There's also the states that probably allowed Republicans to vote in the Democratic Primary. Some may have hated Clinton enough that they voted for Sanders, especially in primaries where Trump's victory was certain already. I think a lot of different factors limited Sanders's effectiveness this time around. The primary factors might be that we had way more candidates, that Warren and Gabbard stayed in too long and would not endorse him, and Biden was basically endorsed by every candidate within a few days. 

None of this is surprising, and except for maybe a week, I didn't expect Sanders to win the nomination. In 2016, there was never a time I thought he'd win the nomination, so in some ways, he outdid his 2016 performance. However, this was helped by Biden being hurt by too many candidates. 

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

As you know I'm a Sanders supporter that vehemently rejects hashtag NeverDemocrat (whether NeverHillary or NeverJoe) sentiments. Here's a reasons why (see image below). The good news is that there are far fewer Sanders supporters this year, which could translate to a better outcome for Biden.:

 

SanderstoTrump.jpg

I'm not sure that it'll make that much difference. It'll just be a larger percent of his smaller overall share that vote for Trump - as those that voted for Clinton are more likely to switch to Joe in this primary.

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Given Biden's strong performance in rural Michigan, I'm convinced that a sizable portion of(if not half of it) Sander's voters were simply voting for him because he wasn't Clinton. Biden lacks the 30 years of attacks; and isn't the right-wing boogyman . Also, we cannot discount Biden's strong support among black voters, whom Clinton slightly suffered from in 16.

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While many of your points are correct. It is bad news for the non-progressive Democrats if Biden loses 2020. It'll breed a wave of discontent among progressives and could possibly strengthen the progressive wing of the Democratic party. 

I hope this doesn't happen though :P

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