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British Election RP (Fantasy 2019)

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About a month ago, I posted a poll for a new RP. The top results were a British RP, or a US Congressional Election RP for 2020. Due to the lack of parties and players in the Congressional Elections, I decided to do the British RP. There are a number of parties to choose from. Depending on the amount of people, here is what I have:

1. Conservatives, 2. Labour, 3. SNP/Plaid, 4. Liberal Democrats, 5. Change UK, 6. Brexit Party, 7. Greens, 8. Sinn Fein/SDLP, 9. DUP/UUP, 10. UKIP? (Dunno if we need it or not, same with if we lack players, we can cut N. Ireland) 

Due to time constraints of my own and others on this forum, the rounds will be lax. It will require a posting maybe once a day, perhaps twice. Debates will be run differently, of course. 

Your turn will be simply three actions of the following:

Speech, Fundraiser, Door-to-Door Campaign, Media Interview (rules vary by party), Ad Campaign, Speech in House of Commons

A Round will look like this

Conservatives use Theresa May to Fundraise, Boris Johnson to Fundraise, and launch an ad campaign

Labour uses Jeremy Corbyn to Door-to-Door Campaign in North-East England, Emily Thornberry conducts a Media Interview, and Jeremy Corbyn has a Speech in the House of Commons

SNP uses Nicola Sturgeon to do a speech in Glasgow, Joanna Cherry to door-to-door campaign in Edinburgh, and launch an ad campaign

Liberal Democrats use Vince Cable to conduct a media interview, Tim Farron to door-to-door campaign in London, and Layla Moran to have a speech in the HoC

Change UK uses Chuka Umunna to do a media interview, Heidi Allen to fundraise, and Anna Soubry to do a speech in South-West England

Brexit Party uses Nigel Farage to door-to-door campaign in North-East England, Nigel Farage to do a speech in Wales, and Nigel Farage to fundraise

You get the picture. 

The Regions - Northwest England, Northeast England, Yorkshire and the Humber, East Midlands, West Midlands, East of England, London, South East, South West, Manchester, Birmingham, Wales, Cardiff, Northeast Scotland, Southwest Scotland, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Belfast, Northern Ireland 

I will roll the dice on each of your goings to see how successful it is. 

This is not meant to be an overly hard RP, nor one that taxes your time. If you're interested, please list the first five parties you wouldn't mind controlling and tag me in it, and I will do my best to place everyone with one of them. 

Tagging those that stated interest in the poll @Kingthero @WVProgressive @Ishan @jvikings1 @Dr. Insano @Conservative Elector 2 @SirLagsalott @Rodja @LegolasRedbard @Reagan04

Anyone else is also welcome if they choose to join as well! I can always split SNP/Plaid, Sinn Fein/SDLP, DUP/UUP, if necessary! I will likely fill Conservatives, Labour, SNP, Lib Dems, Brexit first if possible. 

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11 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

If you're interested, please list the first five parties you wouldn't mind controlling and tag me in it, and I will do my best to place everyone with one of them. 

Labour

Greens

SNP/Plaid Cymru

Brexit Party

Lib Dems

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@Hestia11

 

Conservative

Brexit

UKIP

Liberal Democrats

Change UK

 

That is just my opinion:

I'd rather cut the Northern Ireland parties instead of UKIP. It is just an idea in order to focus more on Great Britain. For the RL I think Labour and LibDem should both contest in NI and the Conservatives should do so more heavily.

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2 minutes ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

I'd rather cut the Northern Ireland parties instead of UKIP. It is just an idea in order to focus more on Great Britain. For the RL I think Labour and LibDem should both contest in NI and the Conservatives should do so more heavily.

I get what you mean, yeah. They have parties that are kind of like themselves in NI, I could sim it myself. I just am waiting to see how many people we get :) Thanks for the input! 

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Sure anytime

 

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9 minutes ago, Patine said:

Delete

Ok, I was just tagged hahah. Nevermind

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Just now, Conservative Elector 2 said:

Ok, I was just tagged hahah. Nevermind

I didn't fully read your post opening post clearly before trying to respond. I just got up. :P

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

I didn't fully read your post opening post clearly before trying to respond. I just got up. :P

Everything's fine :D 

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6 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

If you're interested, please list the first five parties you wouldn't mind controlling and tag me in it, and I will do my best to place everyone with one of them. 

 

Brexit

Conservatives

Lib Dems

UKIP

Change UK

 

 

I agree with those who said that we should cut the Northern Irish parties. There's so little change between the parties in NI due to the religious and unionist/republican split that there's little point in someone playing as them. Although at the same time, the parties (aside from Sinn Fein) could play a part in forming the next government so maybe keep them in? Idk.

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Labour

 

SNP
LIbDem

Green

Change UK

 

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1. Liberal Democrats

2. Change UK

3. Greens

4. SNP

5. UKIP (only because I think they'd be fun to mess around as)

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As of right now, I think this will be the set up

@WVProgressive as Labour

@Conservative Elector 2 as Conservatives

@LegolasRedbard as Brexit

@Rodja as Plaid/SNP

@SirLagsalott as Lib Dems

If we get any others, the next to be filled would be Greens/UKIP/ChUK. If not, I will either sim or take part as one of those parties. I hope to start within the next couple days! 

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Just a couple of questions for some of the players

@Conservative Elector 2 you will likely need to choose a new leader of the Conservatives, as Theresa May has been gone by now in the scenario. How can this new PM assure both Leavers and Remainers that the Conservatives are in it for everyone? 

@SirLagsalott you will also need to choose a leader for the Lib Dems. For both of you, I'd recommend choosing from someone who is likely to run, as it will help with the party's recognition. The Lib Dems are jubilant off of wonderful EU election and local elections. How will the new leader keep the momentum flowing into the Westminster elections? 

@LegolasRedbard Nigel Farage is an MEP. Will he be the party's leader in Westminster elections or will he delegate? The Brexit Party is untested in Westminster elections. The FPTP system is likely to aid the two main parties to the frustration of the Brexiteers. How can they persuade the country that they can have a majority in Parliament?

@Rodja Nicola Sturgeon is the de facto head of the SNP, even in Westminster elections. Will it be the same for this time or will she delegate? The SNP has been doing the same at the last couple of elections with little change in votes. How will the SNP attempt to gain support beyond their normal base?

@WVProgressive Jeremy Corbyn is under fire for the party's dismal European election result. Under his leadership, the Labour party was expected to rebound. Instead, it has plummeted. Will there be any change of leadership or will he continue to lead Labour without a challenge? 

This is meant to show who your leader is and a campaign launch if you want to. The questions are a way to get thoughts flowing as we get going here. 

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

 

@SirLagsalott you will also need to choose a leader for the Lib Dems. For both of you, I'd recommend choosing from someone who is likely to run, as it will help with the party's recognition. The Lib Dems are jubilant off of wonderful EU election and local elections. How will the new leader keep the momentum flowing into the Westminster elections?

I'd like to take Layla Moran, but she has declined to run in real life despite being the frontrunner. If I can't have her as the leader, I'll have Jo Swinson.

The Liberal Democrats will position themselves as decisive pragmatists that won't be doormats in a coalition government, but are leaving the small party mentality behind and aiming for a national win. We will build a strong relationship with Change UK and hopefully form a pragmatic, pro-Remain voting bloc in Parliament. We will also emphasize that the Liberal Democrats will work on issues in all regions of the UK, including Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (including aiming to field candidates in all constituencies).

The 2016 Brexit referendum was on an idea, not on policy. We support holding a meaningful referendum on the actual policy that will decide Brexit using Justine Greening's second referendum suggestion as the model - a supplementary vote system with the options being leaving the EU under a plan made by the Government, leaving without a deal, or remaining.

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

Just a couple of questions for some of the players

@Conservative Elector 2 you will likely need to choose a new leader of the Conservatives, as Theresa May has been gone by now in the scenario. How can this new PM assure both Leavers and Remainers that the Conservatives are in it for everyone? 

I would choose the Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond, but in regard to your recommendation I do not think that it is very likely that he is going to run in RL 

Let's assume I choose Hammond anyway.

After being elected as the new head of the Conservative Party, Hammond announces that he wants to bring the country and his party together. He wants to ensure that the Brexit takes place, in order to follow the people's vote. Hammond is willing to held talks with other parties in order to hear their ideas, but makes that he wants the Brexit to get done in the most supported way. 

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52 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

@WVProgressive Jeremy Corbyn is under fire for the party's dismal European election result. Under his leadership, the Labour party was expected to rebound. Instead, it has plummeted. Will there be any change of leadership or will he continue to lead Labour without a challenge? 

 

Jeremy Corbyn remains the Labour Party Leader

The Labour Party reaffirms its commitment to Democratic Socialism, and goes into the 2019 General Election presenting an unabashedly left-wing, benninite influenced manifesto, and endorses the idea of a People's Vote on Brexit. Jeremy Corbyn emphasises that The Labour Party is not a Remain party, nor is it a Leave party, it is a part of, and for, the working class of Britain, so if the working class wants a hard Brexit, or a soft Brexit, or even no Brexit at all, they will do their duties as servants of the people, and carry out what the people wish.

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

@LegolasRedbard Nigel Farage is an MEP. Will he be the party's leader in Westminster elections or will he delegate? The Brexit Party is untested in Westminster elections. The FPTP system is likely to aid the two main parties to the frustration of the Brexiteers. How can they persuade the country that they can have a majority in Parliament?

Nigel Farage will lead the Brexit Party's Westminster election campaign, and as previously, he will seek to win a seat, this time standing in the highly Brexit supporting constituiency of Thurrock, in Essex, hoping to become an MP on his eighth attempt.

 

The Brexit Party comes to this election in full recognition that the Westminster system will probably prevent them from gaining many MPs, and this lack of representation that Westminster provides will be a central part of the party's campaign. Their core message is simple - the Westminster establishment has sold out the people of this country and does not respect democracy. Whilst the Tories attempt to sell out the country through their deal that leaves us shackled to the EU, the Labour Party has betrayed the working class voters that they claim to represent by joining with the Lib Dems, a party which helped implement the programme of austerity that Labour have stood against for so long, to push for a second referendum and to subvert the will of the people. The Brexit Party will publish a full manifesto this time round, unlike the EU elections, with particular focus on bringing democratic accountability to Westminster, reforming the voting system and leaving the EU without a second referendum. Should they become kingmakers in a hung parliament, the Brexit Party would seek to get their representatives at the negotiating table, as although they will happily leave the EU with no deal, ideally the Brexit Party wishes to negotiate a new Withdrawal Agreement

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1 hour ago, SirLagsalott said:

I'd like to take Layla Moran, but she has declined to run in real life despite being the frontrunner. If I can't have her as the leader, I'll have Jo Swinson.

The Liberal Democrats will position themselves as decisive pragmatists that won't be doormats in a coalition government, but are leaving the small party mentality behind and aiming for a national win. We will build a strong relationship with Change UK and hopefully form a pragmatic, pro-Remain voting bloc in Parliament. We will also emphasize that the Liberal Democrats will work on issues in all regions of the UK, including Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (including aiming to field candidates in all constituencies).

The 2016 Brexit referendum was on an idea, not on policy. We support holding a meaningful referendum on the actual policy that will decide Brexit using Justine Greening's second referendum suggestion as the model - a supplementary vote system with the options being leaving the EU under a plan made by the Government, leaving without a deal, or remaining.

Rolling an average of an 7.5/20, but an added +1 bonus for the pick of Ms. Swinson brings it up to a 8.5. The Liberal Democrat campaign launch was judged to be competent, but lacking. The pick of Jo Swinson was expected, and she is considered to be very capable. The issue of fielding candidates in N. Ireland was unexpected, and shocked some normal Lib Dem voters. Some hardcore remainers are upset at the idea of leaving without a deal being on the table whatsoever. 

1 hour ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

I would choose the Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond, but in regard to your recommendation I do not think that it is very likely that he is going to run in RL 

Let's assume I choose Hammond anyway.

After being elected as the new head of the Conservative Party, Hammond announces that he wants to bring the country and his party together. He wants to ensure that the Brexit takes place, in order to follow the people's vote. Hammond is willing to held talks with other parties in order to hear their ideas, but makes that he wants the Brexit to get done in the most supported way. 

Rolling an average of a 12.5, but a -2 for picking Philip Hammond, who is not well-liked by Brexiteers within the party. A total 10.5 is nothing to snuff at, the Conservative launch was considered well-thought out and individual MPs are likely to stand good chances in their constituencies. Hammond's comments about a lack of a No-Deal Brexit (IRL) hurt his launch, but his pragmatic approach won wide praise from the media.

25 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

Jeremy Corbyn remains the Labour Party Leader

The Labour Party reaffirms its commitment to Democratic Socialism, and goes into the 2019 General Election presenting an unabashedly left-wing, benninite influenced manifesto, and endorses the idea of a People's Vote on Brexit. Jeremy Corbyn emphasises that The Labour Party is not a Remain party, nor is it a Leave party, it is a part of, and for, the working class of Britain, so if the working class wants a hard Brexit, or a soft Brexit, or even no Brexit at all, they will do their duties as servants of the people, and carry out what the people wish.

Rolling an average of a 11, but suffers a -1 for Jeremy Corbyn's dithering on Brexit. His comments that it is not a Remain or Leave party have won plaudits from some, but anger from others. He seems to be back on track, however, with endorsing the idea of a People's Vote. Angry Labour voters who have switched to the Liberal Democrats are now entertaining coming back to the party. Some more hardcore remainers are angry at the idea that Labour would back a hard Brexit if people voted for it. 

 

Overall, the three main parties' launches went about the same as each other, but the Tories seem to have gotten the best of it so far. They are just ahead of Labour in polling, and Labour's launch was considered to have gone well. Only the Lib Dem launch was found to be not that good. Their selection of Jo Swinson aided their daily total up to 8.5. The Conservative launch was judged to be good, but Hammond at the head of the party brought down the daily total to 10.5. Corbyn's Labour had an average rollout with a 11, but suffered a -1 for Corbyn's actions on the first day, bringing their total to 10.

No need for responses from WVProgressive, Conservative Elector 2, or SirLagsalott until the Brexit Party and the SNP launch. If no one decides to join by tomorrow, I will sim the Greens and UKIP for myself, and will consider the ChUK to have joined with the Liberal Democrats. 

 

PRELIMINARY POLLING (At outset of the campaign)

Great Britain Polling

Conservatives - 30%

Labour - 28%

Liberal Democrats - 11%

Brexit Party - 10%

Greens - 6%

SNP/Plaid- 4%

UKIP- 3%

ChUK- 3%

UK Seat Projection

Tories - 300 Seats

Labour - 256 Seats

SNP- 49 Seats

Lib Dems- 22 Seats

Plaid - 4 Seats

Greens - 1 Seat

Brexit - 0

ChUK- 0

N. Ireland - 18 Total

 

 

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1 minute ago, LegolasRedbard said:

The Brexit Party comes to this election in full recognition that the Westminster system will probably prevent them from gaining many MPs, and this lack of representation that Westminster provides will be a central part of the party's campaign. Their core message is simple - the Westminster establishment has sold out the people of this country and does not respect democracy. Whilst the Tories attempt to sell out the country through their deal that leaves us shackled to the EU, the Labour Party has betrayed the working class voters that they claim to represent by joining with the Lib Dems, a party which helped implement the programme of austerity that Labour have stood against for so long, to push for a second referendum and to subvert the will of the people. The Brexit Party will publish a full manifesto this time round, unlike the EU elections, with particular focus on bringing democratic accountability to Westminster, reforming the voting system and leaving the EU without a second referendum. Should they become kingmakers in a hung parliament, the Brexit Party would seek to get their representatives at the negotiating table, as although they will happily leave the EU with no deal, ideally the Brexit Party wishes to negotiate a new Withdrawal Agreement

An average of a 13.5 with no set back or addition with Nigel Farage as leader, as was expected to be, leaves the Brexit Party with a good rollout and so far judged to be the best. Their campaign is off to a good beginning. No need for a reply until the next phase is ready. 

 

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Would like a response from @Rodja before we continue. Still looking for someone to join as Greens/ChUK/UKIP if they want.

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Nicola Strugeon steps down as SNP Leader and recommends Stewart McDonald who is approved by partys delegates.

 

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SNP will be a more unitarist party,trying to push for Scot issues inside the UK with no indenpendence referendums.We  support socialdemocratic economic policies and second Brexit referendum.

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