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@NYrepublican @NYConservative @Patine active users etc.

I'm planning to make all the elections in Israel's history on President Infinity, these elections are supposed to simulate the election process alone, and not the assortment of seats in the Knesset or the process of creating a government, since Israel has so many parties, i came up with a "mechanic" i'll make the smaller parties into Endorsers, when they endorse you that means that they are joining your "side" and probably your government too, for example, Shas endorses Likud, that means that they decided to ally themselves with Likud, and then their leader spawns as a surrogate.

I have just finished the 2015 election

you can download it right here

feedback is appreciated

Israel 2015.rar

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7 hours ago, Ido said:

@NYrepublican @NYConservative @Patine active users etc.

I'm planning to make all the elections in Israel's history on President Infinity, these elections are supposed to simulate the election process alone, and not the assortment of seats in the Knesset or the process of creating a government, since Israel has so many parties, i came up with a "mechanic" i'll make the smaller parties into Endorsers, when they endorse you that means that they are joining your "side" and probably your government too, for example, Shas endorses Likud, that means that they decided to ally themselves with Likud, and then their leader spawns as a surrogate.

I have just finished the 2015 election

you can download it right here

feedback is appreciated

Israel 2015.rar

I'm quite dubious of this system, though I won't outright criticize it at this point, as I haven't given it a full try yet. I had planned a scheme to do Knesset elections by K4E, that would actually retain the parliamentary, multi-party, and government-forming aspects, which I personally feel are absolutely essential, but my bucket list of plans is quite large as it is.

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yeah, but i chose to do this "mechanic" because Israel has coalition consisting of 3+ parties, for example a "winner" only gets 25% of the Knesset, so for rp purposes i decided to make the supporter "mechanic"

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4 minutes ago, Ido said:

yeah, but i chose to do this "mechanic" because Israel has coalition consisting of 3+ parties, for example a "winner" only gets 25% of the Knesset, so for rp purposes i decided to make the supporter "mechanic"

Yes, but that would mean that an "upstart victory" result would not just be unlikely or rare, but mechanically impossible.

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@Patine so i decided to just divide Israel among the 2 main camps, the right wingers (represented by Likud) and the Left wingers (represented by Zionist Union in 2015, Avodah in 2013 and Kadima  in 2009)

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1 minute ago, Ido said:

@Patine so i decided to just divide Israel among the 2 main camps, the right wingers (represented by Likud) and the Left wingers (represented by Zionist Union in 2015, Avodah in 2013 and Kadima  in 2009)

You obviously didn't understand what I was saying, above.

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8 minutes ago, Ido said:

can you rephrase it then? @Patine

The fact is, even though not historically common, the narrow margins of victory in Knesset elections means it is possible that a party other than the historical and their main opponent can end up forming government, more plausibly than say, in the current UK, Australian, or most Canadian Federal elections, in fact - because the margin of victory is always so razor thin. That's what I mean by making "upstart victories," which are more plausible than seemingly on the surface, statistically speaking, a mechanical impossibility, nonetheless, by your proposed system.

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@Patine I considered using PMI, but PMI doesn't simulate direct election like the Israeli system, and idk if i can have more than 2 parties in a coalition

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2 minutes ago, Ido said:

@Patine I considered using PMI, but PMI doesn't simulate direct election like the Israeli system, and idk if i can have more than 2 parties in a coalition

I have a planned usage of K4E using a similar scheme that I also had for the 1994 and beyond South African Elections (whose core electoral mechanic from 1994 forward is based on Israel's, as a compromise to avoid an outright "greenwash" (green is the ANC party colour, BTW), which seemed almost certain under the 1910-1989 FPTP system), but I hadn't gotten around to serious work on either yet.

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I don't have K4E, I plan to buy Congress Infinity first

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4 hours ago, Ido said:

I don't have K4E, I plan to buy Congress Infinity first

You know, this is the second time you've used stating your own personal lack of owning a game as a proxy to say my proposed ideas are effectively bad ideas and should not be considered any further, and your much more flawed ideas should just be plowed on with with not further complaint or criticism by me. I am staggered by the bullheaded brazenness of that.

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@Patine again, I favor accuracy above all, but i really do not have K4E, i want Congress Infinity first to be able to simulate stuff like Midterms

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6 minutes ago, Ido said:

@Patine again, I favor accuracy above all, but i really do not have K4E, i want Congress Infinity first to be able to simulate stuff like Midterms

K4E is cheap now. Because it's old, he sells it for a song. And there's certainly no subscription issues or such to worry about.

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yeah but i'm short on money right now, will probably buy it in the very near future, i want to collect all the 270soft games

(excluding President and Prime Minister Forever, because of the Infinity versions which are better)

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11 minutes ago, Ido said:

(excluding President and Prime Minister Forever, because of the Infinity versions which are better)

On the surface, yes, they have many new and detailed features and additions, but, as an old hand on these forums, I'm beginning to notice aspects where PI and PMI are a bit overwrought, have unnecessary bells and whistles (with many more being demanded constantly on the "Game Feedback" forums), are much more prone to constant errors and problems than their predecessors were at this same stage of development, and can be more irritating in many areas to make scenarios with, the PM4E and P4E. But that's my own point of view.

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On 10/27/2018 at 3:42 PM, Ido said:

@NYrepublican @NYConservative @Patine active users etc.

I'm planning to make all the elections in Israel's history on President Infinity, these elections are supposed to simulate the election process alone, and not the assortment of seats in the Knesset or the process of creating a government, since Israel has so many parties, i came up with a "mechanic" i'll make the smaller parties into Endorsers, when they endorse you that means that they are joining your "side" and probably your government too, for example, Shas endorses Likud, that means that they decided to ally themselves with Likud, and then their leader spawns as a surrogate.

I have just finished the 2015 election

you can download it right here

feedback is appreciated

Israel 2015.rar

I personally do not care about Israeli elections, but because I really have nothing better to do I'll try it and get back to you.

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yeah, these elections don't use the 6+ parties that run in the actual elections, the 2 major wings could be summarized into the 2 big parties

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13 minutes ago, Ido said:

yeah, these elections don't use the 6+ parties that run in the actual elections, the 2 major wings could be summarized into the 2 big parties

It remains an idea I'm dubious of and that seems unsatisfying, but is my viewpoint.

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yeah, i didn't say its the perfect rendition of these elections, but that is the closest i can get for now

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1 minute ago, Ido said:

yeah, i didn't say its the perfect rendition of these elections, but that is the closest i can get for now

I don't know if it's THE absolute closest - it just seems to be the idea you're promoting for now.

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ok then, when i get Kanzler Forever i'll use the resources i got from these scenarios (descriptions, issues, portraits etc.) to make better versions

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