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I have one for the Moon and Mars

Moon

Parties:

Conservative Party: a pro business pro Earth party (pro Earth means that they want to have trade with Earth and stuff)

Liberal Party: a socially liberal pro colonization of the dark side party who want to gradually become more independent of earth but also keep good relations

Our Moon Party: a nationalist party that promotes complete and utter independence from Earth

Utopian Party: a party that believes that the moon is Humanity's chance to finally achieve Utopia

Mars:

the Grand Coalition: a coalition of Centrist Parties who want to keep the status quo but also are social liberal to a degree

Tharsis League: a Right wing "evangelical" party that says that according to the bible, humanity was destined to be among the stars

Socialist "Red" Party: a Socialist Party that wants Martians to be more independent of Martian companies such as mining companies like RedStar Corp.

Martian Utopian Party: the Martian branch of the Utopian Party

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14 minutes ago, Ido said:

I have one for the Moon and Mars

Moon

Parties:

Conservative Party: a pro business pro Earth party (pro Earth means that they want to have trade with Earth and stuff)

Liberal Party: a socially liberal pro colonization of the dark side party who want to gradually become more independent of earth but also keep good relations

Our Moon Party: a nationalist party that promotes complete and utter independence from Earth

Utopian Party: a party that believes that the moon is Humanity's chance to finally achieve Utopia

Mars:

the Grand Coalition: a coalition of Centrist Parties who want to keep the status quo but also are social liberal to a degree

Tharsis League: a Right wing "evangelical" party that says that according to the bible, humanity was destined to be among the stars

Socialist "Red" Party: a Socialist Party that wants Martians to be more independent of Martian companies such as mining companies like RedStar Corp.

Martian Utopian Party: the Martian branch of the Utopian Party

Thanks for the suggestions. The Lunar Assembly parties and setup are mostly covered, as per the link to an earlier thread I gave above. The Martian situation is more complex and lacks the Lunar sense of nominal unity, and would likely be done as several separate election scenarios with several polities on Mars lacking electoral opportunities, but some of those Martian party idea could still find a home in that framework. Thanks! :)

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Western North American Federation:

-Great Pioneer Party: Fiscally conservative, socially centre-right, semi-libertarian, nationalistic, military readiness (if not active interventionist plans), limited immigration party.

-Freeholders' Party: Close to pure libertarian party - very similar platform to the Libertarian Party in the Christian States of America.

-Advance Forward!: Modernist and futurist, pro-technology by government funding, Utopian ideal views of economics and infrastructure, semi-technocratic party.

-Grand Evergreen Party: National affiliate of the Global Greens.

-Western Liberal Party: Mostly former establishment U.S. Democrats and Canadian Liberals from the component former U.S. States and Canadian Provinces and Territories that comprise the WNAF.

-Gold Mountain Party: Highly pro-business, industry, natural resource exploitation, free trade, aggressive international corporate policy, lax business regulation party with a socially centre-right and low tax scheme.

-High West Mission Party: Evangelical theonymist party similar to the current day Constitution Party of the United States and Christian Heritage Party of Canada.

-Indigenous People's Alliance of the Northwest: Party for the rights and interests of the numerous indigenous peoples of the WNAF.

-New Nation Party: Ethnic Chinese interests party - strongly anti-People's Republic of China in rhetoric.

-Alaska Independence Party - a direct continuation of the modern party with the same political end, but transferred to independent sovereignty for Alaska from the WNAF instead of the U.S.

Free State of Utah:

-Deseret Brotherhood: Mormon theocratic party desiring to bring back Brigham Young-era Church governance now that Washington, D.C.'s conditions for joining the Union and holding sway over Utah law are no longer applicable.

-Community Party: Anti-theocratic, "soft-conservative" party.

-Liberal Party: Secular, progressive, modern-law-code, small party.

Third Mexican Empire:

-National Imperial Party: Favoured party of Emperor Juan Carlos I and ALWAYS holds government through rigged, unfair elections (hence why Mexico is not listed on the nations where election scenarios are generally viable here). Other than the NIP, there are officially three other parties - the Loyal Landowners' Party and the Conservative Church and Commerce Party (both widely viewed as "rubberstamp," or "yesman" parties to the NIP), and the Reform and Consensus Party, a mild, but tolerated, opposition party. There are also MANY criminal, insurgent, militia, and vigilante groups ALL over the country!

Caribbean Alliance:

-Caribbean Labour Party: Centre-left, moderate party.

-Caribbean Alliance People's Party: Centre-right, business-friendly party.

-National Freedom Party of the Caribbean: Hard-right-wing nationalist, anti-immigration, and naval spending party.

-Caribbean Democratic Party: Centrist party with some liberal social policies.

-Antillean Communist Party: Hard Communist party. Broke electoral pact with the July 26th Social Democratic Party when the latter moderated and changed it's name to get more electoral appeal.

-July 26th Social Democratic Party: Former Communist Party of Cuba reformed and rebranded after losing power and becoming an opposition party, much like many Warsaw Pact Communist Parties did after the Cold War. Mostly runs on Cuba, but has begun running on other Caribbean islands.

-West Indies Federal Party: A party that focuses on renegotiated the ill-defined "alliance" and "political structure of convenience and convention" into a proper, structured, and firmly legally defined federal, constitutional structure.

-Black Star Nationalist Party: Radical, Black-nationalist, Afro-centric, anti-White, Indigenous, Mestizo, and Malata, isolationist, ultra-nationalist party.

-Louverture-Christophe Party and Duvalier-Samedi Parties: Two nostalgic parties largely limited to Haiti that harken (in romanticized, revisionist viewpoints) two separate periods of Haiti's history and the ideals and doctrines from those periods that are desired to be "renewed."

 

Now, the whole North American continent has been gone over (with California detailed in the above link), except for the fate of Arizona and New Mexico, which is a bit tricky (I've decided to put Oklahoma with the Christian States of America, Nebraska with the Western North American Federation, and Kansas will go to one of those two - I haven't quite decided which. Europe will be dealt with next. Again, comments and constructive criticism are more than welcome.

 

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I haven't really been following this much, but is there a center-right party that wants to be independent of Earth, but remain trade partners? I would do that.

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

Thanks for the suggestions. The Lunar Assembly parties and setup are mostly covered, as per the link to an earlier thread I gave above. The Martian situation is more complex and lacks the Lunar sense of nominal unity, and would likely be done as several separate election scenarios with several polities on Mars lacking electoral opportunities, but some of those Martian party idea could still find a home in that framework. Thanks! :)

nice, wanted to cover some of the more interesting nations here

also i don't see Nunavut having more than 2 parties, it just isn't developed enough

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3 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I haven't really been following this much, but is there a center-right party that wants to be independent of Earth, but remain trade partners? I would do that.

they want to be essentialy a Dominion of Earth, the left want to separate (independence stuff is less defined by left and right)

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4 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I haven't really been following this much, but is there a center-right party that wants to be independent of Earth, but remain trade partners? I would do that.

The Horizon Frontier Movement is self-interested and corporatist enough to be part of a coalition that declares independence, but want to propose or arrange a "Jay Treaty" scenario, if you will, shortly afterward.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

The Horizon Frontier Movement is self-interested and corporatist enough to be part of a coalition that declares independence, but want to propose or arrange a "Jay Treaty" scenario, if you will, shortly afterward.

do you have your own lore for Moon/Mars? can't find it in this thread

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Just now, Ido said:

do you have your own lore for Moon/Mars? can't find it in this thread

As I said above, I have lore for the Moon, of which I linked the earlier thread I'd done lore about it on.

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1 minute ago, Ido said:

do you have your own lore for Moon/Mars? can't find it in this thread

I also have a general idea (but not nearly as specific or defined) about Mars, which I envision having less political unity and probably needing several separate election scenarios with two or three polities with no real elections.

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oh ok

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2 minutes ago, Ido said:

do you have your own lore for Moon/Mars? can't find it in this thread

I said this in immediate response and tag to your suggestions.

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Just now, Patine said:

I also have a general idea (but not nearly as specific or defined) about Mars, which I envision having less political unity and probably needing several separate election scenarios with two or three polities with no real elections.

good idea, also recommend that corporations have a significant influence in Mars

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I'm also wondering if @ThePotatoWalrus notice the reference that, in the "rump" United States (which only includes the New England, Mid-Atlantic, and Rust Belt States, as well as Iowa, Maryland, Delaware, and the District of Columbia, but also the current Canadian Provinces of Ontario and the four Maritime Provinces), that there, the Social Democratic Party is nicknamed "the Sanders Party," as Bernie Sanders, a historic figure in the context herein, is the main original ideological inspiration for that party, but also there, the New Republican Party, having been shorn of the Southern, Western, Heartland, and Southwest, and Alaska, whose collective voter bases and regional favouritism largely made "classical Republican" ideologies truly viable, build their party, in the "rump U.S." after (then historic and former) U.S. President Donald Trump's core ideologies and doctrines instead of the "classic Republican" ideals, and is commonly and unofficially dubbed "the Trump Party." I'm wondering if @ThePotatoWalrus caught that one, as he should just be tickled by it... :P

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@Patine Perhaps you should merge some of the technology-oriented parties into various branches of the Pirate Party, so you can have more fun with transnational parties?

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On ‎8‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 3:43 PM, Thunder said:

@Patine Perhaps you should merge some of the technology-oriented parties into various branches of the Pirate Party, so you can have more fun with transnational parties?

That is certainly a definite possibility. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

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United Kingdom of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland (has also Constitutionally integrated the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands, and Gibraltar, given changed political circumstances, but has arranged for other political fates for it's non-European Overseas Territories):

-Home Dominion Party: A merger of the nationalist, original pro-Brexit Conservatives, the former UKIP, Gibraltar Social Democrats, Centre Party of Jersey, Liberal Vannin, Cornish National Party, and Ulster Unionists, and some like-minded Liberal Democrats to form a new, right-wing, nationalist, "traditional Tory with forward-looking agendas" party in the wake of the Brexit resolution and the dissolution of the EU.

-New Labour Party: Centre to centre-left, Blair-style "New Labour agenda" party formed after Labour Party split, along with a merger of the Gibraltar Socialist Labour Party, the Social Democratic and Labour Party of Northern Ireland, and Manx Labour Party.

-Conventionist Party: Original anti-Brexit Conservatives, most Liberal Democrats, and the Liberal Party of Gibraltar and Alliance Party of Northern Ireland, reformed and rebranded to make themselves relevant by focus on new and different issues.

-Socialist and Left Alliance: Corbyn-style hard-left Labour members after Labour Party split merged with TUSP, Solidarity, the Socialist Party of Great Britain, the Socialist Unity Party of the UK, and the Communist Party of Britain, into a single hard-left party.

-National Democratic Party: A merger of all of the main far-right, ultranationalist, xenophobic parties into one banner, including the British National Party, the National Front, UK First, the National Liberal Party, the English Democrats, the Christian Party of Wales, and the Democratic Unionist Party of Northern Ireland.

-British Republican Party: A party devoted to formally abolishing the monarchy and establishing a constitutional republic.

-Celtic Nation Alliance: A nationalist and cooperatively separatist party-bloc made up of a working alliance of Plaid Cymru, Sinn Fein, Mebyon Kernow, Mec Vannin, and Vectis National Party.

-Green Party: National affiliate of the Global Greens.

-Local and regional parties: Parties advocating for special interests and issues of local and regional nature in English counties, unitary districts, cities, towns, boroughs and districts of London, and regions, Welsh counties and towns, small Northern Irish Unionist and Republican/Southern Liberation parties, and the Jersey Reform Party. These parties are NOT a bloc, do not have any ideological inherent similarities, and have no electoral or parliamentary cooperation or electoral pacts at all.

 

More to come. As always, comments and constructive criticism are always welcome.

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noice

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12 hours ago, Patine said:

I'm interested to hear what commentary or criticism @vcczar @NYrepublican  @LegolasRedbard  @jnewt  @jvikings1   @ThePotatoWalrus @Sunnymentoaddict or @Sami, especially may have on my last several posts and updates here, though, of course, any input that's constructive will be welcome from anyone.

It all looks good so far! Interested to see what your take on 2048 Scottish politics is

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4 hours ago, Wiw said:

Where's the New California Republic?

There's a link above to a separate thread I made about it earlier, along with a separate link to a separate thread on my Lunar Assembly idea. They're both close to (at not quite at) the top of this thread.

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Just read through everything, and I'd say it's pretty well thought out and in-depth.

I do have a question about Sinn Fein.  Did their support dissolve after Ireland was taken by the French?

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3 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Just read through everything, and I'd say it's pretty well thought out and in-depth.

I do have a question about Sinn Fein.  Did their support dissolve after Ireland was taken by the French?

They merged into the Celtic Nation Party politically in terms of their Westminster activities, but now view both the governments in London and Paris as enemies to target politically (and perhaps with renewed insurgent and "terrorist" activities) to liberate all of Ireland.

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18 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Just read through everything, and I'd say it's pretty well thought out and in-depth.

I do have a question about Sinn Fein.  Did their support dissolve after Ireland was taken by the French?

Also, public political support for and membership a united Celtic nationalist alliance party gives them a Pan-Celtic banner to use to coordinate sincerely and genuinely with Breton underground insurgents also fighting the new regime in France, as well as a leverage point to convince certain business and political interest in the Republic of Scotland to offer covert aid.

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