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5 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

OOC: Any idea when we'll get election results?

Tonight or tomorrow.

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3 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Tonight or tomorrow.

OOC: I assume its tomorrow then? Unless your posting it late tonight.

 

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Election of 1972

 

Primaries

 

Liberal

 

(IL) Senator Nathaniel Lauss | Seen as a Conservative Liberal | Red

(MI) VP Harry Erring | Seen as an Establishment-Progressive Liberal | Blue

(NY) Senator Charles Winchester | Seen as a Progressive Liberal | Grey

 

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Lauss wins a majority of delegates on the first ballot (this map represents who won the most votes in each state). Approximate delegate count %'s are at (56/28/16)

 

Conservative

 

(IN) Governor Mark Lens | Seen as a Conservative Conservative | Red

(NY) Senator George Anagnos | Seen as a Moderate-Conservative Conservative | Blue

(CA) Governor Elinor Blake | Seen as a Moderate Conservative | Grey

 

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Round One: Anagnos has a plurality of delegates, but not enough to take a majority. (43/33/24) Blake delegates have the freedom of choice, with a probable 75% switching for Lens and 25% switching for Anagnos.

Round Two: The convention ends up at a total draw (50/50). The first attempt at a conclusion is willing drop out, which neither candidate will. The second attempt at a conclusion is changing convention rules, which fails. The third attempt at a conclusion is a coin flip, which leads to Lens coming out on top.

 

Socialist

 

(CO) Senator William "Big Bill" Hill | Seen as a Progressive Socialist | Red

(SD) Senator Geoffrey McGregor | Seen as a Socialist Socialist | Blue

 

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In a tightly contested primary, Hill edges over McGregor in the primary (54/46)

 

Libertarian

 

(NH) Mr. John Turner IV | Seen as a Moderate Libertarian

(WY) Senator Robert English | Seen as a Conservative Libertarian

 

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Just like the socialist primary, this was a very close race. Turner won (52/48).

 

General Election Round 1

 

Lauss/Winchester (Lib) 381 EV 40% PV

Lens/Anagnos (Con) 160 EV 37% PV

Hill/McGregor (Soc) 25 EV 20% PV

Turner/English (Libt) 0 EV 3% PV

 

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Note: Although the map shows a seemingly large landslide, in many states, especially in the midwest, the socialists were within 10% of the winning party. Some Liberal voters voted for the seemingly less-communist socialist Hill, because they did not like how Lauss was leaning Conservative. However, Lauss managed to win due to having policies conservative enough not to lose the drastically conservative wave of independents voting this election. We are beginning to see regions play a big part in elections.

 

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Region Breakdown (Pop Vote)

 

New England (ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT) : Very Conservative | Region Hot 3 Issues: Lens, Military, Evolution

Industrial Centers (NY, PA, OH, IL) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: Healthcare, Drugs, Evolution

Industrial Midwest (WI, MI, IN) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: Lens, Healthcare, Military

West Coast (CA, OR, WA) : Lean Conservative | Region Hot 3 Issues: Evolution, Lens, Drugs

Southwest (AZ, NM, OK, TX) : Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: Military, Evolution, Healthcare

Southern Outskirts (LA, AR, MO, KY, WV, MD) : Lean Liberal (Also Lean Socialist) | Region Hot 3 Issues: Healthcare, Drugs, Lens

Deep South (MS, AL, GA) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: Drugs, Evolution, Healthcare

Upper South (SC, NC, VA, TN) : Tossup | Region Hot 3 Issues: Lens, Healthcare, Drugs

West (NV, ID, MT, WY, UT, CO, ND, SD, NE, KS) : Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: Drugs, Military, Lens

Non-Continentals (HI, CU, PR, AK) : Tossup | Region Hot 3 Issues: Military, Drugs, Healthcare

Swing States (MN, IA, NJ, DE, FL, DC) : Tossup | Region Hot 3 Issues: Lens, Evolution, Drugs

 

Congress

Liberals 45/104 Senate 41% US Rep

Conservatives 40/104 Senate 33% US Rep

Socialists 13/104 Senate 18% US Rep

Libertarians 6/104 Senate 8% US Rep

RP Note: Congress leans socially center and economically lean right at this point in time.

 

@Hestia11 I'll be doing events like last time, but likely that post will be tmrw or wednesday.

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President Thorne has an elaborate meeting with President-Elect Lauss at the White House to give him advice on serving as President of the United States. Following, the two Liberal policy makers take questions and Lauss makes a short statement thanking supporters and calling the election “consequential” and “pivotal” for the future. He thanks all Americans for voting in the election, regardless of party affiliation. 

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Some Liberal voters voted for the seemingly less-communist socialist Hill,

OOC Did you read my platform? Communes, and automation were a key part of my platform, and my character had strong ties to the Industrial Workers of the World, not exactly a mild mannered reformist.

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John Turner IV endorses social women-colored and gays movements.

John on stage before to enter in the scene : We have to prevail where we can...there is only one side where Liertarians can push forward compared to others parties and we know them.

John's speech to NAACP launch social movements to modernize America forward in society

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John : Tonight my friends, we prevail on rights!

It's not acceptable that still many people among you haven't the right to live like you wished.

The United States has been found on one principle, liberty, economic liberty, social liberty, belief liberty.

If states have the right to do what they want, you've also the right to not be submitted to any religious consideration.

I believe in God, and I know that God judges himself, out of any human judge who interpretes his speech.

So, women, be free to emancipate yourself, we will push forward that everyone among you gains the right to decide about your salary, as well as your way of life.

To the black people, it will be time soon, to ensure that there is no Jim Crow Law, as well as to ensure that you've the same chances and opportunities than every US citizen.

Finally, to people who naturally expressed their feelings in a minor way (I adapt the speech to 70's considerations even for lib) what are you doing wrong to other's liberties and other's lifes? You should no longer be persecuted for living, only God can judge you as I said, and no criminal code should.

It's time to convince state by state, legislation by legislation, I will be there in senate for this.

The american government doesn't thread too much on you about economy, governors and legislations still do on your life, this has to end and we will democratically fight in that goal.

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McGregor congratulates the President-elect and thanks all the people who voted for the Soc Lab Presidential ticket and the Soc Lab Congressional Candidates.

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14 hours ago, WVProgressive said:

OOC Did you read my platform? Communes, and automation were a key part of my platform, and my character had strong ties to the Industrial Workers of the World, not exactly a mild mannered reformist.

Ofc I read it; its a semi-random probability with how the campaign moves though.

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6 hours ago, Edouard said:

John Turner IV endorses social women-colored and gays movements.

John on stage before to enter in the scene : We have to prevail where we can...there is only one side where Liertarians can push forward compared to others parties and we know them.

John's speech to NAACP launch social movements to modernize America forward in society

image.jpeg.785398cc95190836378111833cff6c8e.jpeg

John : Tonight my friends, we prevail on rights!

It's not acceptable that still many people among you haven't the right to live like you wished.

The United States has been found on one principle, liberty, economic liberty, social liberty, belief liberty.

If states have the right to do what they want, you've also the right to not be submitted to any religious consideration.

I believe in God, and I know that God judges himself, out of any human judge who interpretes his speech.

So, women, be free to emancipate yourself, we will push forward that everyone among you gains the right to decide about your salary, as well as your way of life.

To the black people, it will be time soon, to ensure that there is no Jim Crow Law, as well as to ensure that you've the same chances and opportunities than every US citizen.

Finally, to people who naturally expressed their feelings in a minor way (I adapt the speech to 70's considerations even for lib) what are you doing wrong to other's liberties and other's lifes? You should no longer be persecuted for living, only God can judge you as I said, and no criminal code should.

It's time to convince state by state, legislation by legislation, I will be there in senate for this.

The american government doesn't thread too much on you about economy, governors and legislations still do on your life, this has to end and we will democratically fight in that goal.

People have had rights for awhile now, the Liberty Party after the Civil War basically eliminated any chance of Jim Crow, and woman's rights came a few decades later.

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1973 Debate/Amendment Phase

 

Event 1: After much debate, a group of Moderate Conservatives and Moderate Liberals have sponsored Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level.

 

To the President: You were elected on a platform supporting both creationism and evolution, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Hestia11

To the Conservatives: You were elected to secure morality in education, although having emphasis on the States, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Reagan04

To the Liberals: A majority of this party supports moral-based education, although a gradually growing number support the teaching of evolution. Will you stand behind your President, or will you offer other ideas? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Alexak1209

To the Socialists: You were elected on nearly a complete secular and evolution platform; However, this bill signals progress. What are your stances? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @WVProgressive @MBDemSoc

To the Libertarians: You were elected on an individual freedom based platform, and although you have some moral concerns, this bill seemingly falls right into your wheelhouse. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Edouard @NYConservative

 

I just associated pings with the closest matches; obviously the Liberal President can answer the Liberal parts too, and those that are in more than one can answer both.

 

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

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24 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

The Libertarian Socialist Caucus pushes hard in favor of this bill. Supporters form Americans for Healthcare, Issue Advocacy Group, running ads, organizing marches, encouraging people to call their representatives, and all around attempting to drum up support for HB04.

(OOC: I hope this is okay, if not I'll edit it to be the my usual 'Caucus announces support of bill' statement)

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9 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

The Libertarian Socialist Caucus pushes hard in favor of this bill. Supporters form Americans for Healthcare, Issue Advocacy Group, running ads, organizing marches, encouraging people to call their representatives, and all around attempting to drum up support for HB04.

(OOC: I hope this is okay, if not I'll edit it to be the my usual 'Caucus announces support of bill' statement)

I'm no stickler; if its too much I just cut it when I process stuff

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3 hours ago, Kingthero said:

To the Libertarians: You were elected on an individual freedom based platform, and although you have some moral concerns, this bill seemingly falls right into your wheelhouse. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Edouard @NYConservative

A statement from Robert English on the subject:

"I believe that senate bill 04, however flawed, should be passed due to its freedom characteristics and qualities, I think I speak on most libertarians behalf that we support this bill.

 

3 hours ago, WVProgressive said:

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

"I believe the government should, if anything, be less involved. We should keep aid for the elderly but aside from aiding care for the elderly back off."

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13 hours ago, Edouard said:

John Turner IV endorses social women-colored and gays movements.

John on stage before to enter in the scene : We have to prevail where we can...there is only one side where Liertarians can push forward compared to others parties and we know them.

John's speech to NAACP launch social movements to modernize America forward in society

image.jpeg.785398cc95190836378111833cff6c8e.jpeg

John : Tonight my friends, we prevail on rights!

It's not acceptable that still many people among you haven't the right to live like you wished.

The United States has been found on one principle, liberty, economic liberty, social liberty, belief liberty.

If states have the right to do what they want, you've also the right to not be submitted to any religious consideration.

I believe in God, and I know that God judges himself, out of any human judge who interpretes his speech.

So, women, be free to emancipate yourself, we will push forward that everyone among you gains the right to decide about your salary, as well as your way of life.

To the black people, it will be time soon, to ensure that there is no Jim Crow Law, as well as to ensure that you've the same chances and opportunities than every US citizen.

Finally, to people who naturally expressed their feelings in a minor way (I adapt the speech to 70's considerations even for lib) what are you doing wrong to other's liberties and other's lifes? You should no longer be persecuted for living, only God can judge you as I said, and no criminal code should.

It's time to convince state by state, legislation by legislation, I will be there in senate for this.

The american government doesn't thread too much on you about economy, governors and legislations still do on your life, this has to end and we will democratically fight in that goal.

Robert English replied to this statement with

"I agree racism and sexism should be denounced. Too bad we tackled those rights quite a while ago." And from there ridiculed his opponent, claiming he is not updated on the situations at hand and is therefore a risky move to vote for him next election. 

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6 hours ago, Kingthero said:

1973 Debate/Amendment Phase

 

Event 1: After much debate, a group of Moderate Conservatives and Moderate Liberals have sponsored Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level.

 

To the President: You were elected on a platform supporting both creationism and evolution, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Hestia11

To the Conservatives: You were elected to secure morality in education, although having emphasis on the States, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Reagan04

To the Liberals: A majority of this party supports moral-based education, although a gradually growing number support the teaching of evolution. Will you stand behind your President, or will you offer other ideas? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Alexak1209

To the Socialists: You were elected on nearly a complete secular and evolution platform; However, this bill signals progress. What are your stances? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @WVProgressive @MBDemSoc

To the Libertarians: You were elected on an individual freedom based platform, and although you have some moral concerns, this bill seemingly falls right into your wheelhouse. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Edouard @NYConservative

 

I just associated pings with the closest matches; obviously the Liberal President can answer the Liberal parts too, and those that are in more than one can answer both.

 

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

Event 1: The President supports the bill in its current form, with further tweaking that can be amended in further years. Incrementalism is necessary.

Event 2: We will push support for the New Way Liberal plan, as we believe it is the only one that can pass.

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7 hours ago, Kingthero said:

1973 Debate/Amendment Phase

 

Event 1: After much debate, a group of Moderate Conservatives and Moderate Liberals have sponsored Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level.

 

To the President: You were elected on a platform supporting both creationism and evolution, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Hestia11

To the Conservatives: You were elected to secure morality in education, although having emphasis on the States, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Reagan04

To the Liberals: A majority of this party supports moral-based education, although a gradually growing number support the teaching of evolution. Will you stand behind your President, or will you offer other ideas? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Alexak1209

To the Socialists: You were elected on nearly a complete secular and evolution platform; However, this bill signals progress. What are your stances? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @WVProgressive @MBDemSoc

To the Libertarians: You were elected on an individual freedom based platform, and although you have some moral concerns, this bill seemingly falls right into your wheelhouse. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Edouard @NYConservative

 

I just associated pings with the closest matches; obviously the Liberal President can answer the Liberal parts too, and those that are in more than one can answer both.

 

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

At this point, it should be known many of the Evangelicals and Constitutionalists are merging ideas and swirling around to create an activist base focused on a Small Federal Government but often times a larger State Government. As such, the Conservatives propose an amendment that would strike the ban on states prosecuting evolution-teaching employees, and drum up their base with mailers and ads about Evolution morally as well as the Federal Government taking away a State's right to govern itself and educate its own children. If we can get that provision stricken from the bill, we will allow it to get through the Senate.

The Conservatives will not be supporting either of these pieces of legislation, we are happy with the current private care system and believe the majority of our constituents are as well. We oppose moves towards government-sponsored healthcare and attack them as ploys to get the government more influence over the daily lives of Americans.

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15 hours ago, Alexak1209 said:

OOC: I have to ask before replying i am now the VP since my candidate name was on the ticket or???

Yea, you can play as VP.

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On 2/26/2019 at 10:14 PM, Kingthero said:

1973 Debate/Amendment Phase

 

Event 1: After much debate, a group of Moderate Conservatives and Moderate Liberals have sponsored Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level.

 

To the President: You were elected on a platform supporting both creationism and evolution, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Hestia11

To the Conservatives: You were elected to secure morality in education, although having emphasis on the States, so how will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Reagan04

To the Liberals: A majority of this party supports moral-based education, although a gradually growing number support the teaching of evolution. Will you stand behind your President, or will you offer other ideas? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Alexak1209

To the Socialists: You were elected on nearly a complete secular and evolution platform; However, this bill signals progress. What are your stances? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @WVProgressive @MBDemSoc

To the Libertarians: You were elected on an individual freedom based platform, and although you have some moral concerns, this bill seemingly falls right into your wheelhouse. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill? @Edouard @NYConservative

 

I just associated pings with the closest matches; obviously the Liberal President can answer the Liberal parts too, and those that are in more than one can answer both.

 

Event 2: The Government since the country's creation has had phases of centralized economic practices, though for decades has had a solid free market economy. However, an issue coming in campaigns recently involves protecting the elderly. While there is support for elderly healthcare, many worry that the decreasing dependence on family members, and the increasing dependence on the Government, will lead to a cascading domino effect where eventually, everybody will be dependent on the Government for everything. Two bills involving this issue have been proposed: House Bill 04, by the "Democratic" Socialists, establishes a national healthcare system with no private options. House Bill 05, by the "New Way" Liberals, Establishes healthcare for children, the elderly, and the disabled. 

 

To the President: You signaled a move in your campaign to implement healthcare for the elderly, with a potential public buy-in option, but both proposals seem outside of what you wanted to accomplish. Do you support either of these bills, and do you wish to attempt to amend any?

To the Conservatives: Although some members wish for at least some aid for the elderly, especially those with no immediate family, a majority wishes to not strike the first domino in the domino effect of Government overreach. How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

 

To the Liberals: Will the Liberals unite behind any part of this issue? If so, can the party write out a solid plan? How will you seek to support, amend, or go against this bill?

To the Socialists: After decades of the free market, there is potential to move towards a centralized and collective Government. How much will you strive for the two proposals, and how will you get the public on your side?

To the Libertarians: This debate is a crucial test for this party: do they stand up for an increase in Government, or do they establish an alternate position?

Events: Vice president Winchester support the presidents descion in this

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On 2/26/2019 at 10:08 PM, WVProgressive said:

The Libertarian Socialist Caucus pushes hard in favor of this bill. Supporters form Americans for Healthcare, Issue Advocacy Group, running ads, organizing marches, encouraging people to call their representatives, and all around attempting to drum up support for HB04.

(OOC: I hope this is okay, if not I'll edit it to be the my usual 'Caucus announces support of bill' statement)

Members of the Dem Soc and Soc Dem caucuses join the push for support.

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1973 AMENDMENT Vote Phase

 

Event 1 Amendment Votes: 

 

(insertvotehere) "...Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level."

Proposed by the Conservatives

 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @WVProgressive @Edouard

For Amendment votes, only the party leaders get to make significant whipping. For bill/Amendment votes, other players may be able to influence.

 

Party leaders are determined by who wins their party primaries.

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38 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

1973 AMENDMENT Vote Phase

 

Event 1 Amendment Votes: 

 

(insertvotehere) "...Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level."

Proposed by the Conservatives

 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @WVProgressive @Edouard

For Amendment votes, only the party leaders get to make significant whipping. For bill/Amendment votes, other players may be able to influence.

 

Party leaders are determined by who wins their party primaries.

All factions of the Conserservatives are major on board with this and both Congressional whips will be whipping a hard Aye.

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39 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

1973 AMENDMENT Vote Phase

 

Event 1 Amendment Votes: 

 

(insertvotehere) "...Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level."

Proposed by the Conservatives

 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @WVProgressive @Edouard

For Amendment votes, only the party leaders get to make significant whipping. For bill/Amendment votes, other players may be able to influence.

 

Party leaders are determined by who wins their party primaries.

The President signals that he'd veto without the ending part of the bill, crushing most Liberal dissent. Only a few are expected to betray the party whip.

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15 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

1973 AMENDMENT Vote Phase

 

Event 1 Amendment Votes: 

 

(No) "...Senate Bill 04, which officially devolves all matters of creationism versus evolution to the States, while also banning the criminal prosecution of those who teach something their state does not agree with at that level."

Proposed by the Conservatives

 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @WVProgressive @Edouard

For Amendment votes, only the party leaders get to make significant whipping. For bill/Amendment votes, other players may be able to influence.

 

Party leaders are determined by who wins their party primaries.

The Socialist Labor Party Central Committee issues an internal order to all SLP members of congress to oppose the amendment, and whips members of congress to vote for the original bill.

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