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7 hours ago, Valentino said:

Hey can i play, i want to run in 1984.

Sure... read back a few pages and see how we do this, and also 1984 is about 20 years from now in the RP, so I really wouldn't wait that long if I wanted to build up by then, there are 4 parties, Conservative (ran by Reagan04 pretty much by founded by some european GOP guy whos inactive now), Liberal (Hestia11) Socialist Laborer (MBDemSoc and WVProgressive) and Libertarian (me) General positions for them: Conservative: about center-right to right. Liberal: left. not even center left. Soc. Lab: Socialist, aka far far left, close to communist. Libertarian: Varies... its somewhere between radical right and centrist. 

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1 hour ago, NYConservative said:

Sure... read back a few pages and see how we do this, and also 1984 is about 20 years from now in the RP, so I really wouldn't wait that long if I wanted to build up by then, there are 4 parties, Conservative (ran by Reagan04 pretty much by founded by some european GOP guy whos inactive now), Liberal (Hestia11) Socialist Laborer (MBDemSoc and WVProgressive) and Libertarian (me) General positions for them: Conservative: about center-right to right. Liberal: left. not even center left. Soc. Lab: Socialist, aka far far left, close to communist. Libertarian: Varies... its somewhere between radical right and centrist. 

lol if Liberal is left Conservative is Right. Don't insert your values into it. Either we're both center-left to left and center-right to right or left and right. 

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11 hours ago, Valentino said:

Hey can i play, i want to run in 1984.

you can join whenever, I call for elections and anybodies allowed to participate. 1984 is a long ways away though

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2 hours ago, Kingthero said:

you can join whenever, I call for elections and anybodies allowed to participate. 1984 is a long ways away though

I might consider running before then. But i have a good character who fits in 1984.

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On 11/29/2018 at 8:21 PM, Hestia11 said:

lol if Liberal is left Conservative is Right. Don't insert your values into it. Either we're both center-left to left and center-right to right or left and right. 

Didnt insert my values into it, if you actually looked at what you typed up when you posted your characters you would see what I mean.

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23 minutes ago, Valentino said:

I've changed my mind, I'd like to play ASAP, although I do have one question.

Do I have to run for lower office first?

Nope! If you do want to say something about who you might run, you can do something like this.

Fmr. Sec. of State ______ decides to run for Senate in Michigan in the next term on behalf of the ____ party.

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President List

1. Jefferson Bunt (Federalist) (Virginia)
April 30, 1789 - March 4, 1797

2. Samuel Lewis Jr. (Federalist) (New York)
March 4, 1797 - March 4, 1801

3. William M. Aldridge (Democratic-Republican) (Pennsylvania)
March 4, 1801 - March 4, 1809

4. Alexander Bunt Jr. (Federalist) (Virginia)
March 4, 1809 - March 1, 1820 (Resigned from Office)

5. Waler G. Maxwell (Democratic-Republican) (New Hampshire)
March 1, 1820 - March 5, 1821

6. William M. Aldridge (Democratic-Republican) (Pennsylvania)
March 5, 1821 - March 4, 1829

7. Godfrey Henry (Progress) (Tennessee)
March 4, 1829 - March 4, 1833

8. Thomas Gates (Federalist) (Delaware)
March 4, 1833 - March 4, 1841 

9. Godfrey Henry (Progress) (Tennessee)
March 4, 1841 - March 4, 1849

10. Elijah T. Morris (Federalist From 1849 to 1856) (Progress from 1856 Onwards) (Massachusetts)
March 4, 1849 - March 4, 1861

11. Gregory Brooke (Liberty) (Maine)
March 4, 1861 - March 4, 1885

12. Frederick J. Carpenter (Conservative) (New York)
March 4, 1885 - March 4, 1889

13. Sven Atkinson (Liberal) (Ohio)
March 4, 1889 - March 4, 1897

14. Lewis Barker (Progress) (California)
March 4, 1897 - March 4, 1901

15. Henry Rothschild (Liberal) (California)
March 4, 1901 - March 4, 1909

16. John Rodgers (Conservative) (Texas)
March 4, 1909 - March 4, 1917

17. Keller Ryburn (Liberal) (Nebraska)
March 4, 1917 - March 4, 1925 

18. Arty J. Talbot (Conservative) (New York)
March 4, 1925 - January 20, 1935 (Resigned from Office)

19. Theodore Hillsbury (Conservative) (Indiana) 
January 20, 1935 - January 20, 1941 

20. Margaret Ellis (Liberal) (Montana)
January 20, 1941 - January 20, 1949

21. Kristen Langford (Liberal) (Iowa)
January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1953

22. Carly Trebuano (Conservative) (Michigan)
January 20, 1953 - 1955 (Died in Office)

23. Dan Cruz (Conservative) (Florida)
1955 - 1957 (After January 20) (Died in Office)

24. Ron Reynolds (Conservative) (California)
1957 (After January 20) - January 20, 1961

25. Hamilton Humphrey (Socialist Labor) (Minnesota)
January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1965

26. Jacqueline Thorne (Liberal) (Texas)
January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1973

27. Nathaniel Lauss (Liberal) (Illinois)
January 20, 1973 - 

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Vice President List

1. Samuel Lewis Jr. (Federalist) (New York)
April 21, 1789 - March 4, 1797

2. Jacob William Henderson (Democratic-Republican) (Virginia)
March 4, 1797 - March 4, 1801

3. Samuel Lewis Jr. (Federalist) (New York)
March 4, 1801 - April 30, 1801 (Died in Office)

4. Herman Jefferson Bigelow (Democratic-Republican) (Virginia)
March 4, 1805 - March 4, 1809

5. Silas Baldwin (Federalist) (Delaware)
March 4, 1809 - March 1, 1820 (Resigned from Office)

6. Herman Jefferson Bigelow (Democratic-Republican) (Virginia)
March 5, 1821 - March 4, 1829 

7. Henry Clinton (Progress) (New York)
March 4, 1829 - 1830 (Died in Office)

8. Frederick C. Dallsworth (Independent) (New Jersey)
March 4, 1833 - March 4, 1837

9. Philemon Chase (Federalist)
March 4, 1837 - March 4, 1841

10. Richard B. Carlyle (Progress) (Indiana)
March 4, 1841 - March 4, 1849

11. Frederick C. Dallsworth (Federalist) (New Jersey)
March 4, 1849 - March 4, 1853

12. Benjamin M. Hickory (Federalist) (Connecticut)
March 4, 1853 - March 4, 1857

13. Mark Josiah Hamilton (Progress) (Maryland)
March 4, 1857 - March 4, 1861 

14. Philemon Gutch (Liberty)
March 4, 1861 - 1875 (Died in Office)

15. Fredrick Bunt (Liberty) (Alabama)
March 4, 1877 - March 4, 1885

16. Stephen M. McEnroe (Conservative) (Missouri)
March 4, 1885 - March 4, 1889

17. Harry Rothschild (Liberal) (California)
March 4, 1889 - March 4, 1893

18. Fredrick Bunt (Liberal) (Alabama)
March 4, 1893 - March 4, 1897

19. Harper Inning (Progress) (Illinois)
March 4, 1897 - March 4, 1901 

20. Theodora Roosevelt (Liberal)
March 4, 1901 - March 4, 1905

21. Lucian Cartwright (Liberal) (Virginia)
March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1909

22. Ted Hillsbury (Conservative) (Indiana)
March 4, 1909 - March 4, 1917

23. Rosaline Vickers (Liberal) (Georgia)
March 4, 1917 - March 4, 1925 

24. Theodore Hillsbury (Conservative) (Indiana)
March 4, 1925 - January 20, 1935 

25. Carly Trebuano (Conservative) (Michigan)
January 20, 1937 - January 20, 1941 

26. John Brown (Liberal) (Pennsylvania)
January 20, 1941 - January 20, 1949

27. Jerry Francis (Liberal) (Massachusetts)
January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1953

28. Dan Cruz (Conservative) (Florida)
January 20, 1953 - 1955

29. Ron Reynolds (Conservative) (California)
January 20, 1957 - 1957 (After January 20)

30. Earl Hass (Socialist Labor) (New York)
January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1965 

31. Harry Erring (Liberal) (Michigan) 
January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1973

32. Charles Winchester (Liberal) (New York)
January 20, 1973 - 
 

 

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Year 1966

  

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown to an equal rate as our European trade due to secured connections.

 

Event 1 Results: Arming our merchant ships was seen as one of the most expensive and pointless projects... until it was created and succeeded. Not only are the fully exposed guns on our merchant ships deterring the enemies, but they are also relatively inexpensive. Chinese pirates can no longer commit significant harm on our trade; the next step would be the Chinese using their navy to attack us, which would likely cause war.

 

Event 2 Results: You, alongside Liberal lawmakers, have gone to the tactic of proposing a base bill, and then proposing Amendments in committee in order to make sure that other parties support such other measures.

Sidenote: I am going to streamline the committee process just to refer to a "committee", as adding flavor like that doesn't do much and can run into complications.

 

House Committee

 

Composition & Odds: 20 members; 10 Liberals (Seat Stacking --- 80%), 3 Conservatives (40%), 4 Socialists, (90%) 3 Libertarians (15%)

 

Base Bill & Results: Base bill creates the nationwide high-speed train system from coast to coast, centered around stops in agricultural communities, specifically in the northern half of the US. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

Amendment One & Results: Amendment creates the connection to Alaska, which Canada has signaled support for. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

Amendment Two & Results: Amendment creates additional tracks to logging and mining communities. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

House Floor

 

Odds (w/ Amendments): Liberals (80%), Conservatives (20%), Socialists (90%), Libertarians (5%)

 

Bill Results: 59% yeas 41% nays

 

Senate Floor

 

Odds of House Bill: Liberals (80%), Conservatives (20%), Socialists (90%), Libertarians (5%)

 

Bill Results: 45 yeas 59 nays

 

The Bill dubbed the "Modern Infrastructure Act of 1965" passed the House, but failed the Senate.

Analysis: It mostly came down to two crucial faults, one out of the President's control and one in the original bill draft. One was that Liberals stacked the committee that the Bill was apart of, meaning more left-leaning individuals controlled the additional Amendments to the bill. The other was that there are significant costs behind this Bill, and especially with the extended tracks to other communities, and no Conservative voice in support, Conservative support fell, especially impacting the Senate vote where Conservatives and Libertarians have a greater percentage.

 

Event 3: With the success in establishing pacific trade, the President has grown support with her unilateral actions, and although her bill failed, it may not be the end of its lifespan. Does the President wish to push the bill again, and use political tactics to either force passage or ruin the opposition?

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food.

 

Event 1 Results: The space bill has been drafted, and has been sent to Congress.

 

House Committee

 

Composition & Base Odds: 20 members; 6 Liberals (Equal --- 90%), 6 Conservatives (60%), 4 Socialists, (95%) 4 Libertarians (25%)

 

Base Bill & Results: Base bill created two research labs fully funded and dedicated to space research. | 15 yeas 5 nays

 

Amendment One & Results: Amendment bans the use of weapons in space. | 7 yeas 13 nays

 

House Floor

 

Odds: Liberals (90%), Conservatives (60%), Socialists (50%), Libertarians (20%)

 

Bill Results: 65% yeas 35% nays

 

Senate Floor

 

Odds of House Bill: Liberals (90%), Conservatives (60%), Socialists (50%), Libertarians (20%)

 

Bill Results: 65 yeas 39 nays

 

The Bill dubbed the "Space Research Act of 1965" passed the House, and passed the Senate. Awaiting Presidential signature.

Analysis: While some support declined when the weapons ban amendment failed, the Act ultimately passed.

 

Event 2: Mexico and Brazil are interested.

 

Event 3: Sign or Veto Space Act and await results.

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: There is an ongoing live fire on the Bulgarian front, though neither side is making territorial gains; however, the Ottomans have been taking heavy casualties. The encirclement was crushed. Espionage reports share that Russia has 70,000 troops on the Bulgarian front and 42,000 in the main front. (We have 100,000 on the main line) Rebel espionage reports that the Russian population is in a supermajority against the war, but the Russians have managed to avoid even small instances of anti-war rebels. However, rebels in China have continued to grow, which we can use to our advantage.

 

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Event 1 Results: Many enemies refused surrender, and while we took some losses, we managed to crush the encirclement within the next week after the leaflet week.

 

Event 2: The Ottomans refuse any deal where they have to lose their old colonial land. 

 

Event 3 Results: The Russians are seemingly deterred, but only time will tell.

 

Event 4: There is minimal support for any types of Russian coups, but there are political powers willing to attempt to gain a majority in the Tsar's advisory council.

 

Event 5: As we have crushed the encirclement, how do we use our American forces, which are already 2:1 compared to the Russian front, alongside our Ottoman allies, to push further?

 

Event 6: Should we preemptively invite Russian delegations to our country in case of a successful Ottoman deal?

 

Note all events without a results after the title is still an active event.

@Hestia11

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15 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Event 1 Results: Arming our merchant ships was seen as one of the most expensive and pointless projects... until it was created and succeeded. Not only are the fully exposed guns on our merchant ships deterring the enemies, but they are also relatively inexpensive. Chinese pirates can no longer commit significant harm on our trade; the next step would be the Chinese using their navy to attack us, which would likely cause war.

 

Event 2 Results: You, alongside Liberal lawmakers, have gone to the tactic of proposing a base bill, and then proposing Amendments in committee in order to make sure that other parties support such other measures.

Sidenote: I am going to streamline the committee process just to refer to a "committee", as adding flavor like that doesn't do much and can run into complications.

 

House Committee

 

Composition & Odds: 20 members; 10 Liberals (Seat Stacking --- 80%), 3 Conservatives (40%), 4 Socialists, (90%) 3 Libertarians (15%)

 

Base Bill & Results: Base bill creates the nationwide high-speed train system from coast to coast, centered around stops in agricultural communities, specifically in the northern half of the US. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

Amendment One & Results: Amendment creates the connection to Alaska, which Canada has signaled support for. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

Amendment Two & Results: Amendment creates additional tracks to logging and mining communities. | 14 yeas 6 nays

 

House Floor

 

Odds (w/ Amendments): Liberals (80%), Conservatives (20%), Socialists (90%), Libertarians (5%)

 

Bill Results: 59% yeas 41% nays

 

Senate Floor

 

Odds of House Bill: Liberals (80%), Conservatives (20%), Socialists (90%), Libertarians (5%)

 

Bill Results: 45 yeas 59 nays

 

The Bill dubbed the "Modern Infrastructure Act of 1965" passed the House, but failed the Senate.

Analysis: It mostly came down to two crucial faults, one out of the President's control and one in the original bill draft. One was that Liberals stacked the committee that the Bill was apart of, meaning more left-leaning individuals controlled the additional Amendments to the bill. The other was that there are significant costs behind this Bill, and especially with the extended tracks to other communities, and no Conservative voice in support, Conservative support fell, especially impacting the Senate vote where Conservatives and Libertarians have a greater percentage.

 

Event 3: With the success in establishing pacific trade, the President has grown support with her unilateral actions, and although her bill failed, it may not be the end of its lifespan. Does the President wish to push the bill again, and use political tactics to either force passage or ruin the opposition?

1: The President celebrates the success at deterring Chinese attacks on our shipping. She celebrates it as inexpensive and cost-effective.

3: Perhaps we can speak with Conservative leaders on paring down some of the costs and focusing on primarily agricultural communities. 

15 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food.

 

Event 1 Results: The space bill has been drafted, and has been sent to Congress.

 

House Committee

 

Composition & Base Odds: 20 members; 6 Liberals (Equal --- 90%), 6 Conservatives (60%), 4 Socialists, (95%) 4 Libertarians (25%)

 

Base Bill & Results: Base bill created two research labs fully funded and dedicated to space research. | 15 yeas 5 nays

 

Amendment One & Results: Amendment bans the use of weapons in space. | 7 yeas 13 nays

 

House Floor

 

Odds: Liberals (90%), Conservatives (60%), Socialists (50%), Libertarians (20%)

 

Bill Results: 65% yeas 35% nays

 

Senate Floor

 

Odds of House Bill: Liberals (90%), Conservatives (60%), Socialists (50%), Libertarians (20%)

 

Bill Results: 65 yeas 39 nays

 

The Bill dubbed the "Space Research Act of 1965" passed the House, and passed the Senate. Awaiting Presidential signature.

Analysis: While some support declined when the weapons ban amendment failed, the Act ultimately passed.

 

Event 2: Mexico and Brazil are interested.

 

Event 3: Sign or Veto Space Act and await results.

1: We are excited at what the space labs can do for our nation! 

2: We will hold preliminary talks with companies and the nations interested.

3: Sign it.

15 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Event 1 Results: Many enemies refused surrender, and while we took some losses, we managed to crush the encirclement within the next week after the leaflet week.

 

Event 2: The Ottomans refuse any deal where they have to lose their old colonial land. 

 

Event 3 Results: The Russians are seemingly deterred, but only time will tell.

 

Event 4: There is minimal support for any types of Russian coups, but there are political powers willing to attempt to gain a majority in the Tsar's advisory council.

 

Event 5: As we have crushed the encirclement, how do we use our American forces, which are already 2:1 compared to the Russian front, alongside our Ottoman allies, to push further?

 

Event 6: Should we preemptively invite Russian delegations to our country in case of a successful Ottoman deal?

1: We are concerned about the loss of life, but it was what had to be done.

2: We will accommodate this for them. No Ottoman colonial land will be given up.

4: Covertly begin talks with this group and different political groups that want to do this.

5: Try to seize the valley by attacking from the tops of the valley.

6: Not quite, we want to iron out the deal with the Ottomans first.

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37 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

@Hestia11 Ottomans accept the deal; proceed with inviting Russian diplomats?

Yes.

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On 12/5/2018 at 3:55 PM, Kingthero said:

@Reagan04 or @Conservative Elector 2 want to respond to the Liberal's talk regarding agricultural railways?

We'd rather we not spend anything superfluously until the war ends.

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Liberal leaders in the Senate and House slam Conservatives by asking if getting more money to the farmers in the Heartland is "superfluous?" Liberal governors and Representatives use the words to rally their party in the Midwest.

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I want to play too so i understand that we are in 1966 but can i just like create a character that is for example like gorvenor or secretary of State or do i need to check with sombody first

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56 minutes ago, Alexak1209 said:

I want to play too so i understand that we are in 1966 but can i just like create a character that is for example like gorvenor or secretary of State or do i need to check with sombody first

OOC: Governor no, Secretary of State for the US Fed Gov you would need to consult with @Hestia11 as it is a Liberal administration that is in power and he is the person in control over the Liberal Administration's President.

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16 hours ago, Alexak1209 said:

OOC: Thank you so i will contact Hestia11 but if not can i be like a Senator. And why not Governor

OOC: I wasn't saying you can't be a Governor I was saying you don't have to consult with anyone to be one.

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Year 1967

  

Midterms

 

National Strength: We rank 1st in the list of the top 10 countries: United States, Russia, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has stagnated.

Trade: Trade has been stabilized at a positive rate.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 25).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels slowly go back to normal due to the imminent end of the war.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: Socialist enthusiasm has dropped tremendously, while the two main parties grow steadily. However, with the Liberals taking a more heavy-spending approach, the Libertarians have a chance to finally separate Conservative and Liberal Libertarians if successful in the upcoming campaign.

President Popularity: The President is popular with an approval rating of 61%.

 

Congress

Liberals 38/104 Senate 37% US Rep

Conservatives 41/104 Senate 32% US Rep

Socialists 10/104 Senate 15% US Rep

Libertarians 15/104 Senate 16% US Rep

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade has become stabilized with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown to an equal rate as our European trade due to secured connections.

 

Event 3 Results: Without additional support, the bill fails to be even re-read in the Senate or House.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: The economy begins to stagnate due to the hope of the war's end.

 

Event 2 Continued: The Mexican Government will allow U.S. companies to employ foreign labor on foreign soil and pay U.S. taxes as long as the companies take 20% of the profit gained from the foreign labor, numerate it and present it to the Mexican Infrastructure Board, and work with the Mexican Government to grow communities around such industries. Brazil's deal is the same except its requiring instead of the 20% to infrastructure, a direct 10% to the Government of Brazil.

 

Event 3 Results: The space labs are under construction, and will be completed by the next Presidential term.

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: In summary, we have just been gradually pushing into eastern anatolia.

 

Event 2 Results: This was already worked out in the in-between of posts.

 

Event 4 Results: There is estimated to be little accomplished by trying to push an agenda through these groups, and efforts to grow support were pretty much in vain.

 

Event 5 Results: We have successfully scrambled the Russian offensive, and are on the way to reclaim all of the Ottoman's lands.

 

Event 6 Continued: The Russians agree to end the war just how it started: Ottomans reclaim all of their land occupied by the Russians. The Chinese will follow whatever the Russians do. (Accept, negotiate further, etc.)

 

@Hestia11

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