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1 hour ago, NYConservative said:

I don't see how Humphrey jumped ahead and won, or how the Libertarians got 20.9% of the vote, i'd think it be something like 0.1%, but yeah, pretty on point.

He's an incumbent President. Thorne got hurt by scandals.

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Midterms

 

Congress

Liberals 36/104 Senate 33% US Rep

Conservatives 43/104 Senate 30% US Rep

Socialists 13/104 Senate 23% US Rep

Libertarians 12/104 Senate 14% US Rep

 

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@MBDemSoc basically 1 legislative event under econ and 1 military event that are major; feel free to respond to others, and take advantage of the last set of events before the campaign trail.

 

Year 1963 (No assassinations! Yay!)

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had stagnated with our allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants is hindered due to mines, though is still active.

 

Event 3 Results: Sadly, our trade advisers refused to seek new routes. However, technologies into minesweeper tech have advanced, though production of such tech is gradual at most. Computer tech research goes nowhere.

 

No other events.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Stagnant economy, with most of the production being military or food.

 

Event 4 Results: The income tax debate continues as Socialists now have focused on creating a foundation Amendment to create such tax. It goes to an immediate vote on the House Floor.

 

House Floor

 

As the Socialists have proposed a Constitutional Amendment, it has been automatically worked onto the House floor to be voted on. For it to pass, it needs a 2/3rds vote in order to send it to the Senate.

Libertarian Odds: 5% | 1% Yea 13% Nay.

Conservative Odds: 10% | 6% Yea 24% Nay.

Liberal Odds: 65% | 19% Yea 14% Nay.

Socialist Odds: 100% | 23% Yea.

 

Vote Fails House 49%-51% out of the ~67% Needed Note: Passing a Constitutional Amendment is hard when the parties super opposed control over a third of the legislature.

 

The War Production Board now moves on to a House Floor vote. No opposition was made, nor was any support announced, meaning the values stay the same.

 

House Floor

 

Libertarian Odds: 10% | 2% Yea 12% Nay.

Conservative Odds: 25% | 5% Yea 25% Nay.

Liberal Odds: 70% | 25% Yea 8% Nay

Socialist Odds: 100% | 23% Yea.

 

Vote Passes House 55%-45% Note: Now this moves on the the Senate with the same odds. For times sake, Senate committees do not take up House bills.

 

Senate Floor

 

Libertarian Odds: 10% | 0 Yeas 12 Nays.

Conservative Odds: 25% | 10 Yeas 33 Nays.

Liberal Odds: 70% | 27 Yeas 9 Nays.

Socialist Odds: 100% | 13 Yeas.

 

Vote Fails Senate 50-54 Note: The Senate shifted slightly right during midterms, which proved crucial to defeating this bill.

 

While you and your party have gotten much disappointment in failing to pass any legislation, certain contractors have officially sent notice that a few are willing to compete for military bids, meaning they are going to compete for what weapons our army needs, meaning cheaper prices while having some state influence over what is being directly produced. This is the biggest success of the administration so far.

 

Event 5: Any last-ditch legislative efforts you want to push before the next election? (ONLY ONE)

 

War Events

 

Status: 80,000 in Ottoman defense, 20,000 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front. The Russians have broken our northern line, and have "blitzed" towards Ankara. The Russians launched a massive counterattack on our central front, joining the Northern blitz. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. We encircled major amounts of Russian forces near Mersin, taking the city, but while we could have pushed many miles we couldn't risk overextension due to the blitz.

 

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ignore the enlarge image, i changed the borders while highlighting the image. oops.

 

Event 1 Final Results: Upon receiving of orders, the 20,000 volunteers have joined our Active military as volunteers to join the Bulgarian front. The Ottoman volunteer drive restores some Ottoman morale, but ultimately doesn't do much in terms of troop count.

 

Event 2 Final Results: The Ottomans are beyond pissed that we would even think they wouldn't need our help.

 

Event 3 Final Results: The leakers have now been long gone, and news has it that the Russians have already tested successfully a small nuclear explosive.

 

Event 4 Final Results: The Russians and Chinese have successfully utilized counter espionage against us, and have destroyed almost all of our rebel-supporting spies and networks. 

 

Event 5 Final Results: We fail to infiltrate Russia due to their counterespionage program, although we do manage to build the delivery systems for such nuclear explosives. However, we have failed to test a nuclear device worth deploying.

 

Event 6: Absolutely horrified by how poor the war has shifted, military advisers have warned you that we either must do something immediately, or pull out immediately. The idea of the Russians having a massive explosive while we don't could devastate our troops on foreign soil, and the Russian blitz could easily encircle and kill our troops. However, if we allow the Ottomans to get overrun, then the Russians will be able to send their navy into the Mediterranean, and are free to expand into north africa and the balkans. You could still play the middle road here, but the odds of our current troop capacity there do not currently seem good. Think of this event as an ultimatum: do we make a last stand, or do we pull out?

 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are volunteering in Europe.

Economy: The economy has stagnated due to legislative speculation.

Trade: Trade has stagnated due to Allies thinking they have everything they need.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 65% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 0% deficit growth. (SD: 10) [The military cooperation has thankfully kept our budget even even though things have stagnated].

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have rapidly shifted to being upset at how we have failed our allies overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have made massive shifts to right-leaning parties, mainly due to the economic and foreign weaknesses of the current administration. The Liberals may be able to capitalize on this too, but they can not play the middle ground.

President Popularity: The President is probably at an all time low for most unpopular President, ending 1962 at a 28% approval and 70% disapproval rating. This is sad, noting that Humphrey was at 52% popularity in 1961 after his first wave of actions. Can the President make a comeback?

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Liberal policymakers begin to prep for the next election cycle beginning with distancing themselves from Socialist action. They run a wave of radio ads throughout swing states to bolster Liberal turnout.

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Conservative leaders Sen. Larson and Rep. Silverstream build their 1964 party apparati around the fact that they have long been opposed to the unpopular Socialist agenda. They take to their connections around the airwaves and paper routes to build up a grassroots conservative base that will help them uniformly reject Socialism. They attempt to tie the Liberals, who often voted with Socialists in Congress, to the failing President, and make hay of the two youthful men's publicized letters of opposition to the President.

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On 11/21/2018 at 1:16 AM, Kingthero said:

Midterms

 

Congress

Liberals 36/104 Senate 33% US Rep

Conservatives 43/104 Senate 30% US Rep

Socialists 13/104 Senate 23% US Rep

Libertarians 12/104 Senate 14% US Rep

 

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@MBDemSoc basically 1 legislative event under econ and 1 military event that are major; feel free to respond to others, and take advantage of the last set of events before the campaign trail.

 

Year 1963 (No assassinations! Yay!)

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had stagnated with our allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants is hindered due to mines, though is still active.

 

Event 3 Results: Sadly, our trade advisers refused to seek new routes. However, technologies into minesweeper tech have advanced, though production of such tech is gradual at most. Computer tech research goes nowhere.

 

No other events.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Stagnant economy, with most of the production being military or food.

 

Event 4 Results: The income tax debate continues as Socialists now have focused on creating a foundation Amendment to create such tax. It goes to an immediate vote on the House Floor.

 

House Floor

 

As the Socialists have proposed a Constitutional Amendment, it has been automatically worked onto the House floor to be voted on. For it to pass, it needs a 2/3rds vote in order to send it to the Senate.

Libertarian Odds: 5% | 1% Yea 13% Nay.

Conservative Odds: 10% | 6% Yea 24% Nay.

Liberal Odds: 65% | 19% Yea 14% Nay.

Socialist Odds: 100% | 23% Yea.

 

Vote Fails House 49%-51% out of the ~67% Needed Note: Passing a Constitutional Amendment is hard when the parties super opposed control over a third of the legislature.

 

The War Production Board now moves on to a House Floor vote. No opposition was made, nor was any support announced, meaning the values stay the same.

 

House Floor

 

Libertarian Odds: 10% | 2% Yea 12% Nay.

Conservative Odds: 25% | 5% Yea 25% Nay.

Liberal Odds: 70% | 25% Yea 8% Nay

Socialist Odds: 100% | 23% Yea.

 

Vote Passes House 55%-45% Note: Now this moves on the the Senate with the same odds. For times sake, Senate committees do not take up House bills.

 

Senate Floor

 

Libertarian Odds: 10% | 0 Yeas 12 Nays.

Conservative Odds: 25% | 10 Yeas 33 Nays.

Liberal Odds: 70% | 27 Yeas 9 Nays.

Socialist Odds: 100% | 13 Yeas.

 

Vote Fails Senate 50-54 Note: The Senate shifted slightly right during midterms, which proved crucial to defeating this bill.

 

While you and your party have gotten much disappointment in failing to pass any legislation, certain contractors have officially sent notice that a few are willing to compete for military bids, meaning they are going to compete for what weapons our army needs, meaning cheaper prices while having some state influence over what is being directly produced. This is the biggest success of the administration so far.

 

Event 5: Any last-ditch legislative efforts you want to push before the next election? (ONLY ONE)

 

War Events

 

Status: 80,000 in Ottoman defense, 20,000 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front. The Russians have broken our northern line, and have "blitzed" towards Ankara. The Russians launched a massive counterattack on our central front, joining the Northern blitz. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. We encircled major amounts of Russian forces near Mersin, taking the city, but while we could have pushed many miles we couldn't risk overextension due to the blitz.

 

image.png.f423a9e9ceeb7a28fe3e65275138f1bf.png

ignore the enlarge image, i changed the borders while highlighting the image. oops.

 

Event 1 Final Results: Upon receiving of orders, the 20,000 volunteers have joined our Active military as volunteers to join the Bulgarian front. The Ottoman volunteer drive restores some Ottoman morale, but ultimately doesn't do much in terms of troop count.

 

Event 2 Final Results: The Ottomans are beyond pissed that we would even think they wouldn't need our help.

 

Event 3 Final Results: The leakers have now been long gone, and news has it that the Russians have already tested successfully a small nuclear explosive.

 

Event 4 Final Results: The Russians and Chinese have successfully utilized counter espionage against us, and have destroyed almost all of our rebel-supporting spies and networks. 

 

Event 5 Final Results: We fail to infiltrate Russia due to their counterespionage program, although we do manage to build the delivery systems for such nuclear explosives. However, we have failed to test a nuclear device worth deploying.

 

Event 6: Absolutely horrified by how poor the war has shifted, military advisers have warned you that we either must do something immediately, or pull out immediately. The idea of the Russians having a massive explosive while we don't could devastate our troops on foreign soil, and the Russian blitz could easily encircle and kill our troops. However, if we allow the Ottomans to get overrun, then the Russians will be able to send their navy into the Mediterranean, and are free to expand into north africa and the balkans. You could still play the middle road here, but the odds of our current troop capacity there do not currently seem good. Think of this event as an ultimatum: do we make a last stand, or do we pull out?

 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are volunteering in Europe.

Economy: The economy has stagnated due to legislative speculation.

Trade: Trade has stagnated due to Allies thinking they have everything they need.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 65% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 0% deficit growth. (SD: 10) [The military cooperation has thankfully kept our budget even even though things have stagnated].

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have rapidly shifted to being upset at how we have failed our allies overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have made massive shifts to right-leaning parties, mainly due to the economic and foreign weaknesses of the current administration. The Liberals may be able to capitalize on this too, but they can not play the middle ground.

President Popularity: The President is probably at an all time low for most unpopular President, ending 1962 at a 28% approval and 70% disapproval rating. This is sad, noting that Humphrey was at 52% popularity in 1961 after his first wave of actions. Can the President make a comeback?

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Economic Events:

5: Try and pass this hopefully inoffensive support for the agriculture industry bill: Start giving subsidies to small agricultural businesses, agricultural organizations and farms to supplement their income, manage the supply of agricultural commodities, and influence the cost and supply of such commodities.

 

War Events: 

6: Make a final stand, shift troops from Germany and Scandinavia to the Ottoman Front as well as some from the Bulgarian front (if possible), try and move some troops stationed at home to the Ottoman Front (If possible, they would serve as volunteers to the Ottoman Military).

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1964

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food. The increased trade with our Asian allies allows us to ship them surplus food in preparation for a near immediate Chinese attack, as well as provide them technologies to be self-sustainable.

 

Event 5 Results: Although the farm sector has been successful for decades, Socialist lawmakers have attempted to re-attract rural agrarian support by proposing a blanket Government oversight of agricultural production. While this does attract the small farmer to an extent, a majority of farmers are worried that this radical change of the farming industry would damage the market, even alienating some Socialists who are dependent on the rural vote. Libertarians and Conservatives near outright oppose this measure, and even Liberals are highly repulsed by the measure.

 

House Committee

 

Socialists have a fair representation on the House's Agriculture committee. Socialist lawmakers have crafted a new farming bill, aiming to supply Government organization and assistance to the farming market. There is a lack of majority support for the industry being benefited by this bill, which kills Liberal support and even some Socialist support. For the sake of the vote, the House committee has twenty members. (5 Socialists, 3 Libertarians, 6 Liberals, and 6 Conservatives)

Libertarian Odds: 0% | 3 nays.

Conservative Odds: 0% | 6 nays.

Liberal Odds: 20% | 1 yea 5 nays.

Socialist Odds: 75% | 5 yeas.

 

Vote Fails Agriculture Committee 6-14 Note: While there is a lack of complexity due to the way I carry out this RP that doesn't provide a lot of information regarding certain sectors of the economy, the fact that our economy is mainly agricultural and military goods shows that our agricultural sector is doing good enough to be in the top 2. In the future, and this goes for everyone, you all can ask me clarifying questions regarding a sector of the economy and I will provide statistics.

 

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front, despite the absence of American troops. The Russian blitz has slowed down, and the line rests rust outside Ankara. The Russians have pushed further into the central front, perhaps to possibly flank and encircle Ankara. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. Despite the extension of our line, we have pushed mostly north from Mersin and have launched an encirclement attempt at the Russian forces south of Ankara. We have officially encircled the massive push of Russian troops towards Ankara due to our movement of troops, and we have the opportunity to make a huge push on the Russians.

 

Event 6 Results: This has been a massive success, seemingly out of the blue. 30,000 American volunteers have officially gone under the payroll of the Ottoman Army, alongside our 100,000 American volunteers under our payroll. We have absolutely tarnished the Russian blitz, and seemingly we can make our own blitz and perhaps push the Russians to peace with the Ottomans.

 

Event 7: This event is all about our grand push: the more effort you put into the military strategy, the more likely we are are be successful. Intelligence reports that the Russians have only 50,000 troops left in the Turkish front, matching their 50,000 on the Bulgarian front. Reports have come in that the Russian population has grown upset over the massive lost of life in a seemingly irrelevant country, potentially destroying the war support of the predicted world war.

 

@MBDemSoc I am glad things have ended on a seemingly more positive note, and let us hope that we can avoid massive world war. The election will not happen until you respond to this event, or you get killed by not responding to this event.

 

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State of the Union for Election of 1964
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has begun to grow again due to the opening of the Asian market.

Trade: Trade has grown due to the removal of restrictions between us and Asia.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 15).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow healthily, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have completed their shift. However, due to the President's sudden successes universally, most of this shift ended in more Liberal gains than Conservative. Also, a portion of these new Liberal voters would likely still vote for the President's re-election than for a new Liberal candidate.

President Popularity: The President rebounded within the last year, ending 1963/4 at a 38% approval and 50% disapproval rating. This makes the President generally unpopular, but still electable with the right campaign. If the President recreates his platform and focuses on his successes, instead of this general socialist platform, than the chances of being re-elected are drastically higher.

____________________________________________

Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

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29 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

1964

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food. The increased trade with our Asian allies allows us to ship them surplus food in preparation for a near immediate Chinese attack, as well as provide them technologies to be self-sustainable.

 

Event 5 Results: Although the farm sector has been successful for decades, Socialist lawmakers have attempted to re-attract rural agrarian support by proposing a blanket Government oversight of agricultural production. While this does attract the small farmer to an extent, a majority of farmers are worried that this radical change of the farming industry would damage the market, even alienating some Socialists who are dependent on the rural vote. Libertarians and Conservatives near outright oppose this measure, and even Liberals are highly repulsed by the measure.

 

House Committee

 

Socialists have a fair representation on the House's Agriculture committee. Socialist lawmakers have crafted a new farming bill, aiming to supply Government organization and assistance to the farming market. There is a lack of majority support for the industry being benefited by this bill, which kills Liberal support and even some Socialist support. For the sake of the vote, the House committee has twenty members. (5 Socialists, 3 Libertarians, 6 Liberals, and 6 Conservatives)

Libertarian Odds: 0% | 3 nays.

Conservative Odds: 0% | 6 nays.

Liberal Odds: 20% | 1 yea 5 nays.

Socialist Odds: 75% | 5 yeas.

 

Vote Fails Agriculture Committee 6-14 Note: While there is a lack of complexity due to the way I carry out this RP that doesn't provide a lot of information regarding certain sectors of the economy, the fact that our economy is mainly agricultural and military goods shows that our agricultural sector is doing good enough to be in the top 2. In the future, and this goes for everyone, you all can ask me clarifying questions regarding a sector of the economy and I will provide statistics.

 

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front, despite the absence of American troops. The Russian blitz has slowed down, and the line rests rust outside Ankara. The Russians have pushed further into the central front, perhaps to possibly flank and encircle Ankara. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. Despite the extension of our line, we have pushed mostly north from Mersin and have launched an encirclement attempt at the Russian forces south of Ankara. We have officially encircled the massive push of Russian troops towards Ankara due to our movement of troops, and we have the opportunity to make a huge push on the Russians.

 

Event 6 Results: This has been a massive success, seemingly out of the blue. 30,000 American volunteers have officially gone under the payroll of the Ottoman Army, alongside our 100,000 American volunteers under our payroll. We have absolutely tarnished the Russian blitz, and seemingly we can make our own blitz and perhaps push the Russians to peace with the Ottomans.

 

Event 7: This event is all about our grand push: the more effort you put into the military strategy, the more likely we are are be successful. Intelligence reports that the Russians have only 50,000 troops left in the Turkish front, matching their 50,000 on the Bulgarian front. Reports have come in that the Russian population has grown upset over the massive lost of life in a seemingly irrelevant country, potentially destroying the war support of the predicted world war.

 

@MBDemSoc I am glad things have ended on a seemingly more positive note, and let us hope that we can avoid massive world war. The election will not happen until you respond to this event, or you get killed by not responding to this event.

 

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State of the Union for Election of 1964
 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has begun to grow again due to the opening of the Asian market.

Trade: Trade has grown due to the removal of restrictions between us and Asia.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 15).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow healthily, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have completed their shift. However, due to the President's sudden successes universally, most of this shift ended in more Liberal gains than Conservative. Also, a portion of these new Liberal voters would likely still vote for the President's re-election than for a new Liberal candidate.

President Popularity: The President rebounded within the last year, ending 1963/4 at a 38% approval and 50% disapproval rating. This makes the President generally unpopular, but still electable with the right campaign. If the President recreates his platform and focuses on his successes, instead of this general socialist platform, than the chances of being re-elected are drastically higher.

____________________________________________

Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

I was actually only proposing giving the agriculture sector subsidies not governmental oversight of all agricultural production could you redo this as that was not what I was pushing just the agriculture legislation not the war, I was basing the policy on FDR's agriculture subsidies so definitely not a complete takeover.

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Name and office: Sen. Jacqueline Thorne (L-TX)

Age: 45

Party: Liberal

Resident state: Texas 

VP nominee: Gov. Harry Erring (L-MI)

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Railroads linking agricultural communities

Platform (see State of the Union):

National Strength: Together with Germany we are likely more powerful than the combined alliance of Russia and China. This is a reason to be happy and celebrate it.

Military Strength: We need to be careful with our resources. If the Ottomans need naval volunteers we would be willing to offer some ships to them to defend them more adequately. 

Foreign Affairs: We can sense that the Russians are on their back foot. We need to take this opportunity to push for an "honorable peace" that will get the war over and to a conclusion that is satisfactory for both us and the Ottomans. Publicly we will make no demands, but in private we will assure the Ottomans we will have their backs in any negotiation. This would need to include all European land taken by Russia being given back to those nations, as well as Ottoman Turkey at the least. Middle Eastern oil fields would, as well, need to be under the watch of a friendly power. If the Russians don't accept our terms, then the war will continue. (We will act as mediators in a neutral 3rd country, perhaps Brazil or Denmark)

Military: If we can get the Russians to mediate a peace, we will need to shift our forces to the Pacific, strengthening our allies and our bases there. 

Economy: Liberals have been out of power for years now, and we have came back with plans. The first is to build a series of high-capacity rail lines running throughout the Midwest, linking them to California and New York, creating thousands of jobs in every place along the way. This would be primarily to help the agricultural community ship their goods faster to the coasts to take advantage of the Asian market opening up. A second idea is the creation of NASI (National Aeronautics and Space Institute), that will aim to get us into space. We would have three headquarters, with states offering where to go. The federal government would help in this, but would not take the lead. Private citizens and universities would help us as well. Liberals have shown we are the stewards of good economies, and we will keep making new ideas to keep America growing.

Trade: The ag community stands to benefit by the opening of trade in Asia. We will take advantage of that as soon as possible. We will also work to make railroads linking the industrial communities of the northeast to these as well. 

Budget: No big things to worry about with the budget. 

Social Harmony: We are glad the American people are united, and we know they would like to see an end to this war as soon as possible.

Immigration: We will welcome them gladly.

Mood of the people: If the Russians do not accept our peace terms, we will gladly keep going until they do accept them. We remind the American people we have strength on our side, and we are using it to our advantage. 

Party Power: We present ourselves as a center option to the leftist Socialists and the rightist Conservatives (and the far-right Libertarians). The Liberal party has been good mediators and finders of common ground in Congress, even voting with BOTH the Conservatives and Socialists on measures. We will use this to our advantage.

President Popularity: We will not attack the President directly, except for his failures during the year when his support dipped to just 30%, reminding the American people why their trust in him was so low. 

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18 hours ago, MBDemSoc said:

I was actually only proposing giving the agriculture sector subsidies not governmental oversight of all agricultural production could you redo this as that was not what I was pushing just the agriculture legislation not the war, I was basing the policy on FDR's agriculture subsidies so definitely not a complete takeover.

Subsidies for an industry that doesn't need subsidies though...

 

There isn't a dust bowl ongoing.

 

You might get more liberal support but it'd still fail in the Conservative Senate.

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Subsidies for an industry that doesn't need subsidies though...

 

There isn't a dust bowl ongoing.

 

You might get more liberal support but it'd still fail in the Conservative Senate.

Right I wasn't aware of that before the vote on either so, will respond to the war event when I get the chance.

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On 11/22/2018 at 9:20 PM, Kingthero said:

1964

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food. The increased trade with our Asian allies allows us to ship them surplus food in preparation for a near immediate Chinese attack, as well as provide them technologies to be self-sustainable.

 

Event 5 Results: Although the farm sector has been successful for decades, Socialist lawmakers have attempted to re-attract rural agrarian support by proposing a blanket Government oversight of agricultural production. While this does attract the small farmer to an extent, a majority of farmers are worried that this radical change of the farming industry would damage the market, even alienating some Socialists who are dependent on the rural vote. Libertarians and Conservatives near outright oppose this measure, and even Liberals are highly repulsed by the measure.

 

House Committee

 

Socialists have a fair representation on the House's Agriculture committee. Socialist lawmakers have crafted a new farming bill, aiming to supply Government organization and assistance to the farming market. There is a lack of majority support for the industry being benefited by this bill, which kills Liberal support and even some Socialist support. For the sake of the vote, the House committee has twenty members. (5 Socialists, 3 Libertarians, 6 Liberals, and 6 Conservatives)

Libertarian Odds: 0% | 3 nays.

Conservative Odds: 0% | 6 nays.

Liberal Odds: 20% | 1 yea 5 nays.

Socialist Odds: 75% | 5 yeas.

 

Vote Fails Agriculture Committee 6-14 Note: While there is a lack of complexity due to the way I carry out this RP that doesn't provide a lot of information regarding certain sectors of the economy, the fact that our economy is mainly agricultural and military goods shows that our agricultural sector is doing good enough to be in the top 2. In the future, and this goes for everyone, you all can ask me clarifying questions regarding a sector of the economy and I will provide statistics.

 

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front, despite the absence of American troops. The Russian blitz has slowed down, and the line rests rust outside Ankara. The Russians have pushed further into the central front, perhaps to possibly flank and encircle Ankara. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. Despite the extension of our line, we have pushed mostly north from Mersin and have launched an encirclement attempt at the Russian forces south of Ankara. We have officially encircled the massive push of Russian troops towards Ankara due to our movement of troops, and we have the opportunity to make a huge push on the Russians.

 

Event 6 Results: This has been a massive success, seemingly out of the blue. 30,000 American volunteers have officially gone under the payroll of the Ottoman Army, alongside our 100,000 American volunteers under our payroll. We have absolutely tarnished the Russian blitz, and seemingly we can make our own blitz and perhaps push the Russians to peace with the Ottomans.

 

Event 7: This event is all about our grand push: the more effort you put into the military strategy, the more likely we are are be successful. Intelligence reports that the Russians have only 50,000 troops left in the Turkish front, matching their 50,000 on the Bulgarian front. Reports have come in that the Russian population has grown upset over the massive lost of life in a seemingly irrelevant country, potentially destroying the war support of the predicted world war.

 

@MBDemSoc I am glad things have ended on a seemingly more positive note, and let us hope that we can avoid massive world war. The election will not happen until you respond to this event, or you get killed by not responding to this event.

 

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State of the Union for Election of 1964
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has begun to grow again due to the opening of the Asian market.

Trade: Trade has grown due to the removal of restrictions between us and Asia.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 15).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow healthily, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have completed their shift. However, due to the President's sudden successes universally, most of this shift ended in more Liberal gains than Conservative. Also, a portion of these new Liberal voters would likely still vote for the President's re-election than for a new Liberal candidate.

President Popularity: The President rebounded within the last year, ending 1963/4 at a 38% approval and 50% disapproval rating. This makes the President generally unpopular, but still electable with the right campaign. If the President recreates his platform and focuses on his successes, instead of this general socialist platform, than the chances of being re-elected are drastically higher.

____________________________________________

Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

War events: 

7: Complete the encirclement of Russian Troops near Ankara (Try to limit casualties and take prisoners, if any troops from the Russian side want to defect or surrender let them) use the troops north of Ankara to complete the encirclement, once all the North, Central and Southern Lines are pretty much level again begin pushing from the South first and have the Central and Northern Lines provide support to the Southern Line while it is pushing, then do the same with the Central Line with the Northern and Southern Lines Providing Support and then do the same with the Northern Line with the Central and Southern Lines providing Support, repeat the process until the Russians (have Generals randomly select which lines shall push first once the first set of pushes are done in order to keep the Russians guessing where the push is going to come from next) are pushed back into Georgia, Try and spread pro-peace propaganda to the Russian people by contacting anti-war dissidents in Russia and providing them with funding to create more anti-war / pro-peace propaganda in Russia to distribute, put funding into counterespionage to counter any attempts of the Russians or Chinese to spy on the US and Allies. 

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On 11/22/2018 at 9:20 PM, Kingthero said:

1964

 

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food. The increased trade with our Asian allies allows us to ship them surplus food in preparation for a near immediate Chinese attack, as well as provide them technologies to be self-sustainable.

 

Event 5 Results: Although the farm sector has been successful for decades, Socialist lawmakers have attempted to re-attract rural agrarian support by proposing a blanket Government oversight of agricultural production. While this does attract the small farmer to an extent, a majority of farmers are worried that this radical change of the farming industry would damage the market, even alienating some Socialists who are dependent on the rural vote. Libertarians and Conservatives near outright oppose this measure, and even Liberals are highly repulsed by the measure.

 

House Committee

 

Socialists have a fair representation on the House's Agriculture committee. Socialist lawmakers have crafted a new farming bill, aiming to supply Government organization and assistance to the farming market. There is a lack of majority support for the industry being benefited by this bill, which kills Liberal support and even some Socialist support. For the sake of the vote, the House committee has twenty members. (5 Socialists, 3 Libertarians, 6 Liberals, and 6 Conservatives)

Libertarian Odds: 0% | 3 nays.

Conservative Odds: 0% | 6 nays.

Liberal Odds: 20% | 1 yea 5 nays.

Socialist Odds: 75% | 5 yeas.

 

Vote Fails Agriculture Committee 6-14 Note: While there is a lack of complexity due to the way I carry out this RP that doesn't provide a lot of information regarding certain sectors of the economy, the fact that our economy is mainly agricultural and military goods shows that our agricultural sector is doing good enough to be in the top 2. In the future, and this goes for everyone, you all can ask me clarifying questions regarding a sector of the economy and I will provide statistics.

 

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: The Russians have not made any ground on the Bulgarian front, despite the absence of American troops. The Russian blitz has slowed down, and the line rests rust outside Ankara. The Russians have pushed further into the central front, perhaps to possibly flank and encircle Ankara. Luckily, we saved our volunteers from being encircled, but it was close. Despite the extension of our line, we have pushed mostly north from Mersin and have launched an encirclement attempt at the Russian forces south of Ankara. We have officially encircled the massive push of Russian troops towards Ankara due to our movement of troops, and we have the opportunity to make a huge push on the Russians.

 

Event 6 Results: This has been a massive success, seemingly out of the blue. 30,000 American volunteers have officially gone under the payroll of the Ottoman Army, alongside our 100,000 American volunteers under our payroll. We have absolutely tarnished the Russian blitz, and seemingly we can make our own blitz and perhaps push the Russians to peace with the Ottomans.

 

Event 7: This event is all about our grand push: the more effort you put into the military strategy, the more likely we are are be successful. Intelligence reports that the Russians have only 50,000 troops left in the Turkish front, matching their 50,000 on the Bulgarian front. Reports have come in that the Russian population has grown upset over the massive lost of life in a seemingly irrelevant country, potentially destroying the war support of the predicted world war.

 

@MBDemSoc I am glad things have ended on a seemingly more positive note, and let us hope that we can avoid massive world war. The election will not happen until you respond to this event, or you get killed by not responding to this event.

 

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State of the Union for Election of 1964
 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has begun to grow again due to the opening of the Asian market.

Trade: Trade has grown due to the removal of restrictions between us and Asia.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 15).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow healthily, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: The American people, according to polls, have completed their shift. However, due to the President's sudden successes universally, most of this shift ended in more Liberal gains than Conservative. Also, a portion of these new Liberal voters would likely still vote for the President's re-election than for a new Liberal candidate.

President Popularity: The President rebounded within the last year, ending 1963/4 at a 38% approval and 50% disapproval rating. This makes the President generally unpopular, but still electable with the right campaign. If the President recreates his platform and focuses on his successes, instead of this general socialist platform, than the chances of being re-elected are drastically higher.

____________________________________________

Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

Name and office: Hamilton Humphrey, President of the United States of America.

 Race and gender, if other than white male: White Male.

Party: Socialist Labor Party (Originally a member of the Progressive Wing of the Liberal Party, he later defected to the Socialist Labor Party).

Resident state: Minnesota.

Platform (see State of the Union): 

National Strength: Aim to move up one or two ranks in the top 10 country rankings.

Military Strength: Maintain the military and navy at the troop and ship levels they are currently at if the budget allows for it. Maintain naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia and Japan if those territories consent to them being maintained, withdraw from them if consent is not given. 

Foreign Affairs: Enact a policy of strict neutrality only engage in warfare if we are attacked or for humanitarian reasons (Or in exceptional circumstances). The Socialist Labor Party pledges to support democracy, self-determination, free trade, and principles of non-aggression in American post-Russo-Ottoman war foreign policy. Continue to support the League of Nations' development. Continue sanctions on China and Russia.  End Russo-Ottoman war as quickly and humanely as possible. Encourage our allies which still have colonies to decolonise as peacefully and quickly as possible after the war ends. Help rebuild the Ottoman Empire's economy once the war is over and any other nations economies that will need it. We back the Liberal Party's calls for an "honourable peace" and would take the same stance as they would in the peace negotiations.

Military: Have the military and navy perform training exercises to be prepared for any other possible attacks or potential humanitarian intervention. Continue the gradual process of bringing the arms industry into public ownership via purchase. 

 

 

 

 

Economy: Enact legislation that will create a national living wage, mandate that employers give their employees sick pay, give 52 weeks of maternity leave to new mothers (2 weeks mandatory for the mother, the rest of the 50 weeks (As well as other amounts of that 50 weeks) will be able to be transferred to the father), give 2 weeks paternity leave to new fathers, mandate that employers pay their employees for any overtime they perform and give employees 28 days paid vacation. We will also implement the suggested high capacity rail lines and the creation of NASI which were suggested by the Liberals. Also enact stronger health and safety conditions in all workplaces.

Trade: Create free trade deals with nations if they agree to strict protections for workers and the natural resources of the nations involved. Renationalize the shipping industry. Continue investment into technologies which will help trade in the future such as minesweeping and mine detection technologies as well as into computer science. Begin to develop trade blocs with our allies which will be free trade areas with common external tariffs and allow for the freedom of movement of capital, labour, enterprise and services (Post-war). Actively encourage workers to form trade unions and workers co-operatives.

Budget: A deficit is fine. Focus on how the government can make people's lives better.

Social Harmony: No comment.

Immigration: All immigrants are welcome as long as they have not committed serious crimes.

Mood of the people: No Comment. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: No comment.   

Party Power: Campaign vigorously against the Libertarian and Conservative Parties in both the Presidential Race and Congressional Races.

Extra Policy: Repeal the NAVA 1953 as it is unconstitutional.

 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Economic Policies.

 

VP nominee: Earl Hass (NY).

 

The focus of this platform is ending the war as quickly and with as little bloodshed as possible and improving workers terms and conditions.

The party still advocates for the economic policies presented in previous party platforms.

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Name and office: Sen. Ben Larson [Black Male]

Age: 54

Party: Conservative

Resident state: Maryland

VP nominee: Rep. Larry Silverstream (C, AZ-1) [White Male]

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Conservative Policy as the nation shifts to the right away from Socialism

Platform (see State of the Union):

Nation Strength: We can't afford to be Number 2 in our current situation. The only way that we keep Americans safe is by topping Russia and taking our place as the greatest freedom guardians the world over.

Military Strength: A build up is required, the Liberals and Socialists aren't willing to invest as much as we need. The fact is that the world is gripped in tumult and we can't afford to lose our advantage militarily. We must dig out of the nuclear hole into which Russia has placed us.

Foreign Affairs: This administration fell out of the American people's good graces for their botched Diplomatic overtures into the Ottoman Empire. Take from a party that has actually governed and governed well as far as Foreign Policy is concerned our major concern is keeping together the alliances forged by the likes of Presidents Hillsbury and Trebuano. Because of these two leaders, we have the infrastructure that has kept America safe! We can't forsake that in any sense of the word.

Military: Our major priorities need to be focusing on pressuring in Asia and developing a Nuclear Weapon. We need to use our influence where it is necessary. The fact is that beating Russia is unfeasible and we need to focus our strategy at keeping them in check. Asia is where we can truly make the difference and topple Chinese power in the region. I foresee a nuclear stalemate in Russia, but that is what is in America's interest. We're running on safety and pragmatism. The last thing we can afford is a costly and lively World War.

Economy: Our presence in Asia will be the major culmination of our administration's work regarding economic policy. The more we insert ourselves into the Economies of Asia, the more better off we'll be. China has grown weak and it's our turn to exert dominance in the Far East. Military production should be our focus otherwise, we are in a defensive state.

Trade: This election is all about making sure that we have an ability to keep our influence potent between Russia and China. Trade with Europe and the Far East is a given in keeping us above water internationally.

Budget: We will attempt to keep the budget balanced, but our safety, for the first time as a nation, is going to have to come first. We certainly don't throw responsibility to the wind like the Socialists, but a balance will take the passenger's seat, certainly not a back seat.

Social Harmony: We are glad that the nation is staying united and we hope this will lead to greater levels of enlistment in the American Armed Forces to defend against said threats.

Immigration: We are happy with this Immigration but we're interested in exploring a service requirement after a certain number of immigrants. We should take advantage of the surge in manpower.

Mood: We commend our military leadership for these victories, but the fact is that this administration has been ineffective at any real leadership and any real attempt to keep the nation safe has ended in exactly the opposite. The Socialist Party was not meant to govern and this term has resoundingly proven that without possibility of dispute. 

Party Power: Folks, the Liberals have been bedfellows with the Socialists since Day 1. And as soon as the Socialists inevitable began to fell that attempted to jump out of the bed they made. Make no mistake that despite Liberal flip-flops, they are still birds of a feather with the Socialists and that the Socialists are still unable to govern even with the support of the Liberal Party. The Liberals have tried to rush to the center, but the fact is that they are a Leftist alternative to the Far-Left Socialists, the Conservative represent the commanding majority of Center-Right Americans for smaller government and stronger defense. It's time we saw the Liberals and Socialists uniformly rejected.

Incumbent: This President has given the nation a historically poor performance. There is no doubt why his approval bottomed out in the low 20s and now only sits in the mid 30s. It's because he promised a lot for America, then dove to the Far-Left with policies that simply don't work. It's time that we tell the President loud and clear that we are not satisfied and his Far-Leftist agenda was given a shot and it missed spectacularly.

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Liberal candidates across the board begin their attacks on Conservatives and Socialists. They blast the Conservative call that they were the foundation of many alliances, when it was the Liberals who shored up alliances on this continent that make us the safest nation in the world. They say we work with the Socialists - so what? We work to get America working and employed again, and we don't care who is in power to get it done. The Conservatives don't want to work with anyone to get things done. Liberals are working with both left and right to get things done for America. We'd wish that both our other parties would follow our lead. They attack Socialists for what they call the "Year of Difficulty" as the President's approval fell into the low 30s and upper 20s. It seems like the Socialists just want to copy Liberal ideas to try and get elected - they won't get a free pass on that from Liberals. 

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11 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

Liberal candidates across the board begin their attacks on Conservatives and Socialists. They blast the Conservative call that they were the foundation of many alliances, when it was the Liberals who shored up alliances on this continent that make us the safest nation in the world. They say we work with the Socialists - so what? We work to get America working and employed again, and we don't care who is in power to get it done. The Conservatives don't want to work with anyone to get things done. Liberals are working with both left and right to get things done for America. We'd wish that both our other parties would follow our lead. They attack Socialists for what they call the "Year of Difficulty" as the President's approval fell into the low 30s and upper 20s. It seems like the Socialists just want to copy Liberal ideas to try and get elected - they won't get a free pass on that from Liberals. 

"It's not exactly copying we are just agreeing with you on some issues to an extent as we agree to an extent with the Libertarians on social issues, also we would very likely use publicly owned companies as well as collectively owned companies to create the high capacity rail lines and NASI we assume you would use a mix of both privately and publicly to complete the projects, we also agree with you that the Conservatives won't work with anyone but the Libertarians and have blocked any attempts by us to get our legislation passed aside from the ones in their caucus who see some sense on economics"

- Soc Lab Spokesperson.

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

Liberal candidates across the board begin their attacks on Conservatives and Socialists. They blast the Conservative call that they were the foundation of many alliances, when it was the Liberals who shored up alliances on this continent that make us the safest nation in the world. They say we work with the Socialists - so what? We work to get America working and employed again, and we don't care who is in power to get it done. The Conservatives don't want to work with anyone to get things done. Liberals are working with both left and right to get things done for America. We'd wish that both our other parties would follow our lead. They attack Socialists for what they call the "Year of Difficulty" as the President's approval fell into the low 30s and upper 20s. It seems like the Socialists just want to copy Liberal ideas to try and get elected - they won't get a free pass on that from Liberals. 

 

51 minutes ago, MBDemSoc said:

"It's not exactly copying we are just agreeing with you on some issues to an extent as we agree to an extent with the Libertarians on social issues, also we would very likely use publicly owned companies as well as collectively owned companies to create the high capacity rail lines and NASI we assume you would use a mix of both privately and publicly to complete the projects, we also agree with you that the Conservatives won't work with anyone but the Libertarians and have blocked any attempts by us to get our legislation passed aside from the ones in their caucus who see some sense on economics"

- Soc Lab Spokesperson.

"As the socialists have mentioned us, we would like to mention that we are trying our hardest to work with every party, Conservative, Liberal, Soc. Lab, and so on and so forth. We consistently attempt to pass any form of compromise or bipartisan bills that we find, as long as they don't deny our views for liberty. We are welcome to any parties suggestions, bill revisions and the such." 

- Adam Natesh, Libertarian Party Leader and Senator, Former Presidential Candidate.
In other libertarian stuff: The Libertarians will not endorse any party and focus on the senate, congress and house races.

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1964 Election

Welcome to the election of 1964! This election, we see the two parties attempt to consolidate power, while the socialist attempts to secure a second term amid opposition.

 

Primaries

 

There were no significant primaries.

 

General Election Round 1

 

Thorne/Erring (Lib) 285 EV 44% PV

Humphrey/Hass (Soc) 150 EV 26% PV

Larson/Silverstream (Con) 131 EV 30% PV

 

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Note: Liberals took a massive lead due to their appealing war and economic platforms, as well as their regional focuses, which helped gain industrial and midwest support.

 

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Region Breakdown (Pop Vote)

 

New England (ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT) : Lean Conservative | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Industrial Centers (NY, PA, OH, IL) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Industrial Midwest (WI, MI, IN) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

West Coast (CA, OR, WA) : Conservative | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Southwest (AZ, NM, OK, TX) : Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Southern Outskirts (LA, AR, MO, KY, WV, MD) : Tossup (Lean Soc) | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Deep South (MS, AL, GA) : Liberal (Also Lean Socialist) | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Upper South (SC, NC, VA, TN) : Tossup | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

West (NV, ID, MT, WY, UT, CO, ND, SD, NE, KS) : Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Non-Continentals (HI, CU, PR, AK) : Lean Liberal | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

Swing States (MN, IA, NJ, DE, FL, DC) : Tossup | Region Hot 3 Issues: War, Trade, Economy

 

Congress

Liberals 36/104 Senate 36% US Rep

Conservatives 40/104 Senate 31% US Rep

Socialists 12/104 Senate 19% US Rep

Libertarians 16/104 Senate 14% US Rep

RP Note: Congress is super close, though still very pro-this-war and lean socially conservative.

 

@Hestia11 Events soon. Good note is that the huge foreign affairs focus may be over soon enough...

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(Thank God "Events soon. Good note is that the huge foreign affairs focus may be over soon enough..." I'll be honest, I find foreign policy to be so incredibly boring, leading me to be bored by the RP for the past few elections and making a rather half-assed platform here, let's end this thing @Hestia11 AND START THE CULTURE WAR!)

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11 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

(Thank God "Events soon. Good note is that the huge foreign affairs focus may be over soon enough..." I'll be honest, I find foreign policy to be so incredibly boring, leading me to be bored by the RP for the past few elections and making a rather half-assed platform here, let's end this thing @Hestia11 AND START THE CULTURE WAR!)

Lol no thanks :) 

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President-Elect Thorne pledges a future that will work for all Americans. She readily submits her plans to Congress to be voted on at the start of the year. She makes cabinet appointments, and prepares to host the Ottoman leaders in Washington for a meeting.

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The Outgoing President and Vice President thank all the people who voted for the Soc Lab Party Presidential Ticket as well as the Soc Lab Party Congressional Candidates and those people who served as the electors for the Presidential Ticket in the EC, they also congratulate the President-elect and the Vice President-elect on their victory.

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@Hestia11

National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, China, Great Britain, France, Sweden, Mexico, Austria, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 100,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: Russia and China have a super alliance, same with League of Nations and American Alliances. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders plus Eastern Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and Western Iran, and Chinese expand all the way to border Russia through owning East Iran.

Military: Our military is completely occupied. Our whole military is focused on the Ottoman war, with mere token forces on our Pacific bases.

Economy: The economy has begun to grow again due to the opening of the Asian market.

Trade: Trade has grown due to the removal of restrictions between us and Asia.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 40% taxes 50% tariff , and 10% overseas territories/canals, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 20% infrastructure and 5% surplus growth. (SD: 15).

Social Harmony: The country is united against a possible threat.

Immigration: Immigration levels continue to grow healthily, especially from refugees of the middle east.

Mood of the people: People have become more optimistic about an American victory overseas.

Party Power: Voting trends are going to become very distinct gradually, as the parties have begun to take very distinct directions. (Like IRL, there is going to be a massive electoral shift, though more as a stabilizer than a complete exchange.)

President Popularity: N/A

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Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Event 1: After the mine plan failed, the Chinese have finally pushed their pacific piracy program to full motion. Unmarked ships have been attempting to sink our trade ships, and while we do fend them off, we have been getting damage to our ships. What do we wish to do to counter the Chinese piracy?

 

Event 2: Your presidential plan involved railway expansion, mainly in order to transport agricultural resources at high speeds to the ports for exportation, as well as have easy access to transport products from coast to coast. "Write" your legislation, and propose it to Congress. As an additional note, should we add a part to connect Alaska to Washington, utilizing our Canadian alliance?

 

Economic Events

 

Status: Growing economy, with most of the production being military or food.

 

Event 1: You have proposed an initiative for us to push technology to reach space. This is fascinating, though completely unheard of (Russians haven't gone to Space, as they have focused on war tech and not 'Cold War' tech.). How will you write such legislation, and how will you get it past Congress?

 

Event 2: A group of investors has come to Washington in order to discuss how we can help other countries modernize. Business leaders propose that the U.S. Government should subsidize (with a max cap of $50,000,000 per company per country) companies to build infrastructure in foreign countries and utilize native labor and resources to create even more products. They have even stated that they are fine with paying the same taxes on such goods (remember; still no income tax), and would try to work with legislators to create a balanced deal.

 

War Events

 

Status: 100,000 in Ottoman defense, 0 in Germany/Scandinavia in terms of American involvement.

 

Ottoman defense: There is an ongoing live fire on the Bulgarian front, though neither side is making territorial gains. A very intense set of maneuvers led to the successful encirclement of 38,000 Russian soldiers, though the Russians have reinforced their main line in order to attempt to push further. Espionage reports share that Russia has 70,000 troops on the Bulgarian front, 38,000 in the encirclement, and 42,000 in the main front. (We have 40,000 troops on the encirclement, and 60,000 on the main line) Rebel espionage reports that the Russian population is in a supermajority against the war, but the Russians have managed to avoid even small instances of anti-war rebels. However, rebels in China have grown, which we can use to our advantage.

 

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Event 1: The previous President called for a cautious completion of the encirclement, focused on taking prisoners rather than casualties. However, it takes us very long to take prisoners and costs us more lives to take more prisoners. With the main line so close to the encirclement, what should our plan be? Continue to strive for low casualties, or do a mix of bombing/starvation to rapidly enclose the circle?

 

Event 2: The Ottoman delegation is at the White House; what deal shall we propose to bring to the Russians?

 

Event 3: We have successfully tested our first nuclear bomb, comparable to the one the Russians tested. Some are suggesting we explode one over the Black Sea as a sign of strength, while others say that we should just use this test as an additional bargaining tool in negotiations. Action or fear?

 

Event 4: This is for any espionage you wish to commit, such as enemy statistics, rebels, etc.

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21 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Trade Events

 

Status: Trade had improved with our allies, especially our Asian allies. Virtually no trade with Russia and China. Stagnant trade with the American continents that are not our immediate allies. Virtually no trade with African countries not close to Europe. Trade with Japan and allied Asian remnants has grown due to the success of the mine technology.

 

Event 1: After the mine plan failed, the Chinese have finally pushed their pacific piracy program to full motion. Unmarked ships have been attempting to sink our trade ships, and while we do fend them off, we have been getting damage to our ships. What do we wish to do to counter the Chinese piracy?

 

Event 2: Your presidential plan involved railway expansion, mainly in order to transport agricultural resources at high speeds to the ports for exportation, as well as have easy access to transport products from coast to coast. "Write" your legislation, and propose it to Congress. As an additional note, should we add a part to connect Alaska to Washington, utilizing our Canadian alliance?

1: President Thorne believes that we should attach large-scale guns to the sides of our trade ships to be able to blow the ships out of the water if necessary. These can be disguised or seen outright.

2: We should add a part going from Alaska to Washington, if the Canadians wish it. We propose a bill that connects large agricultural communities by way of high-speed railway systems to large coastal ports like New York and San Diego. This would lie extensively in the Midwest and Industrial regions of the US while branching out into the West and Northwest, should we choose to add it in with lumber.

21 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Event 1: You have proposed an initiative for us to push technology to reach space. This is fascinating, though completely unheard of (Russians haven't gone to Space, as they have focused on war tech and not 'Cold War' tech.). How will you write such legislation, and how will you get it past Congress?

 

Event 2: A group of investors has come to Washington in order to discuss how we can help other countries modernize. Business leaders propose that the U.S. Government should subsidize (with a max cap of $50,000,000 per company per country) companies to build infrastructure in foreign countries and utilize native labor and resources to create even more products. They have even stated that they are fine with paying the same taxes on such goods (remember; still no income tax), and would try to work with legislators to create a balanced deal.

1: We will get it past Congress through lobbying moderate Conservatives, assuming we get the Socialists on board. We need to reach space to beat the Russians and Chinese there - utilizing our full potential as a nation. This could help us research and develop strategies in the future. We propose two research labs first, one in California and one in Texas, and then we will start branching out when we start wanting to launch probes.

2: We would need to know which nations would first want to get these industrial capabilities. We wish to focus mainly on our closest allies - especially here in the Americas. Particularly Mexico, Brazil and Argentina. We would be open to making a deal like this.

21 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Event 1: The previous President called for a cautious completion of the encirclement, focused on taking prisoners rather than casualties. However, it takes us very long to take prisoners and costs us more lives to take more prisoners. With the main line so close to the encirclement, what should our plan be? Continue to strive for low casualties, or do a mix of bombing/starvation to rapidly enclose the circle?

 

Event 2: The Ottoman delegation is at the White House; what deal shall we propose to bring to the Russians?

 

Event 3: We have successfully tested our first nuclear bomb, comparable to the one the Russians tested. Some are suggesting we explode one over the Black Sea as a sign of strength, while others say that we should just use this test as an additional bargaining tool in negotiations. Action or fear?

 

Event 4: This is for any espionage you wish to commit, such as enemy statistics, rebels, etc.

1: We need to try and enclose the circle however we can. For another week, fly leaflets demanding surrender or else we will do a massive bombing campaign to get them to surrender. This will give them adequate time to surrender first, followed by a rapid bombing and starvation campaign.

2: We will hear what the Turks desire but we need some ground rules first: all European territory taken will be returned. All of Ottoman Turkey will be returned. The Caucasus as well should be entertained, and Syria. Payment towards Ottoman allies will need to happen as well. 

3: We need to use it as fear, we are not going to go blowing up atomic bombs in the middle of the Black Sea, it is simply too much. 

4: We need to gauge the kind of support we could get from Russians and other minorities within Russia about a potential uprising. 

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29 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

1: President Thorne believes that we should attach large-scale guns to the sides of our trade ships to be able to blow the ships out of the water if necessary. These can be disguised or seen outright.

2: We should add a part going from Alaska to Washington, if the Canadians wish it. We propose a bill that connects large agricultural communities by way of high-speed railway systems to large coastal ports like New York and San Diego. This would lie extensively in the Midwest and Industrial regions of the US while branching out into the West and Northwest, should we choose to add it in with lumber.

1: We will get it past Congress through lobbying moderate Conservatives, assuming we get the Socialists on board. We need to reach space to beat the Russians and Chinese there - utilizing our full potential as a nation. This could help us research and develop strategies in the future. We propose two research labs first, one in California and one in Texas, and then we will start branching out when we start wanting to launch probes.

2: We would need to know which nations would first want to get these industrial capabilities. We wish to focus mainly on our closest allies - especially here in the Americas. Particularly Mexico, Brazil and Argentina. We would be open to making a deal like this.

1: We need to try and enclose the circle however we can. For another week, fly leaflets demanding surrender or else we will do a massive bombing campaign to get them to surrender. This will give them adequate time to surrender first, followed by a rapid bombing and starvation campaign.

2: We will hear what the Turks desire but we need some ground rules first: all European territory taken will be returned. All of Ottoman Turkey will be returned. The Caucasus as well should be entertained, and Syria. Payment towards Ottoman allies will need to happen as well. 

3: We need to use it as fear, we are not going to go blowing up atomic bombs in the middle of the Black Sea, it is simply too much. 

4: We need to gauge the kind of support we could get from Russians and other minorities within Russia about a potential uprising. 

The President has the support of the Soc Lab Cacucses for the space exploration proposal as long as no weapons are to be placed in outer space, the President also has the support of the Soc Lab Caucuses for the Foreign Aid Proposal so long as the President supports the Income Tax Amendment being brought up for another vote as would make this proposal much easier to fund as well all other potential future government programs and would also allow for the much simpler reduction of budget deficits.

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