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9 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

We offered important guidelines and are willing to settle for grants for the private schools that do teach these values, as we understand your consternation on the possible Constitutionality of such issues and are willing to instead implement a grant system to encourage the teaching of those values.

Secondly, the Communists and Fascists have banded together in political parties, and despite not holding any office, they exist in the political realm. But just like Socialism, they oppose American Values and must be stopped lest our great nation perish. We are anti-radical and it is a shame that Liberals refuse to stand against the elements of our society that wish to tear down America. Unbiased history and fact stand firmly against Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and Fascism, so why won't the Liberals?

The fact that Conservatives would be willing to advocate and perhaps lead to a ban of a political party is dangerous. It is against the first amendment to restrict these people’s right to speak their mind. Perhaps solutions are better than bans in this regard.

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38 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

Even with the midterms, all that passed was the prohibition, national anthem, and railroad denationalizing laws. The ocean shipping industry is still nationalized. The Hawaiian funds have been secured. No literacy/extremist tests have passed.

 

State of the Union for Election of 1912
 

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National Strength: We rank 4th in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  United States, Japan, Mexico, Italy, France, Austria, Mexico, Canada. Mexican coups, along with a growing economy, have led to our rise.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 60,000 men and 58 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, and Panama. We are currently occupying French Polynesia and St Pierre and Miquelon.

Foreign Affairs: We are currently heavily arming pro-monarchist forces in France, and supporting the Republican/Monarchist faction in the Mexican coup. The French communist's strongholds in France have finally fallen, and all that exist now are small groups in rural towns in and outside of France, and on the remaining French colonial possessions. The current stance of the Mexican Civil War is 40% R/M 41% RCT/F and 19% C.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Our navy patrols our naval bases, and a small portion of our navy and army are occupying French Polynesia and St. Pierre and Miquelon. 

Economy: The economy is continuing in a state of growth, and has finally caught up to the top 3 European powers due to this.

Trade: Our trade is stagnant among third world nations, and surprisingly our private industries have maintained trade with Britain regardless of tariffs, and German trade is about the same. Trade with non-radical European countries has slightly improved.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with a solid 15% of our spending going to paying off our debt, aimed to be paid off by 1924. Our budget consists of the income of 27% taxes 34% tariff 27% overseas territories/canals and 12% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 45% military 10% gov. upkeep 15% infrastructure 15% disaster aid and 15% debt repayment.

Social Harmony: The country is basically united, as multiple successes have cast a shadow over the country's problems.

Immigration: Our immigration has slowed down, but is still at a level that puts us as the number one country accepting immigrants.

Mood of the people: The mood of the people is greatly satisfied.

Party Power: Conservatives are on an upwards trend, while polls project that the other parties will take small losses.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is greatly popular, and re-election should be guaranteed at this point.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Platform (see State of the Union):

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Name and office: Sen. Terry Farnsworth 

Age: 64

Party: Liberal

Resident state: North Carolina

VP nominee: Gov. Alison Spring (L-VT)

Platform (see State of the Union):

National Strength: Because of past Liberal administrations beginning to sell arms, we have increased our standing in the world. We would continue our path directly upward.

Military Strength: We are glad to have gotten these two territories and it will help our economy at points where we need it. We see no reason to adjust this at this point.

Foreign Affairs: There really is no point to still heavily arm the French, as they have really succeeded in their endeavor. Shift some of their funding towards the Monarchist and Republican faction in Mexico.

Military: Our military has done a fabulous job of getting us St. Pierre and Miquelon as well as French Polynesia. For now, maintain on this front.

Economy: Liberal administrations have done wonders with the economy, and led us out of a recession when we needed it most. Conservatives will only get rid of the progress we have made.

Trade: It was a good move by the current administration to put more tariffs on the British, something we supported in Congress. We are glad that the Germans have lowered the tariff on us as well.

Budget: We're concerned that Conservatives would want to chop 12% of our budget off just because of their ideology. There's a real possibility that our debt wouldn't get paid off and would likely get worse. Combine that with lower taxes and we're already having troubles 

Social Harmony: We cannot ignore our underlying problems. We need to solve the big issues that divide our people at a foundational level otherwise we will remain disunited for a time.

Immigration: We have always been a nation of immigrants and we continue to be.

Mood of the people: Liberals and Conservatives both have helped our nation continue to be the powerhouse that it is. While we disagree on how to do it, it is known between all parties that America is the greatest nation in the world. Liberals are glad that our people are satisfied, regardless of who is in power.

Party Power: While on economic issues, Conservatives can be understood, on social issues, they are out of their minds. Liberals staunchly disagree with enforcing what kids do at school and are concerned that Conservatives would be willing to bypass the Constitution to force their agenda down children's throats. Religion is free here in America, and we are secular, which must always be maintained. Even if Christianity is the biggest religion in the US, we must respect those that are not the same as us, which Conservatives don't. They don't respect their political opponents either, wanting to go as far as nearly banning an established political party, which violates the 1st amendment. Liberals and Socialists don't agree on a lot, but we will support them if their right to maintain a political party is breached.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The President has done little in terms of actual accomplishments in Congress, and he shouldn't be celebrated for what he says he's done. Past Liberal administrations have led to this economic boom, by starting trading more arms than we had ever done before, by raising tariffs, by beginning to pay off our debt, by supporting bimetallism, Liberals have been the party of the American worker and farmer, and we will continue to be. 

 

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@Hestia11 @Kingthero

Offer to the Liberal Party!

Sen. Wyatt "Tombstone" Dodge realizing that a Conservative victory seems virtually assured meets with American Progress leaders. They cobble together an offer for the eventual Liberal Party nominee. 

Dodge and his party will throw their support to the Liberal Party nominee if all these demands are met:

1. That the Liberal Party endorses the isolationist platform of the American Progress Party. That is, no meddling in other country's affairs and no wars. This is not total isolation as we firmly believe in trade. 

2. That all domestic progressive policies be enacted with as much fiscal constraint as possible. 

3. That all domestic progressive policies be enacted with the least amount of Federal power as possible. That is, aim to have the states endorse it first, and apply it federally only if the states do no accept it, even though the law is both necessary and proper. 

4. That you will appoint a White House farmer's council to analyse and build policy around the needs of farmers. 

5. That the American Progress Party will be given at least two spots in the cabinet. 

Dodge also will accept a spot as the VP if it helps defeat the Conservatives. He wishes not to change the name of the party, since the American Progress Party might not merge in future elections unless we win this election and the platform is successful. 

 

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5 minutes ago, vcczar said:

@Hestia11 @Kingthero

Offer to the Liberal Party!

Sen. Wyatt "Tombstone" Dodge realizing that a Conservative victory seems virtually assured meets with American Progress leaders. They cobble together an offer for the eventual Liberal Party nominee. 

Dodge and his party will throw their support to the Liberal Party nominee if all these demands are met:

1. That the Liberal Party endorses the isolationist platform of the American Progress Party. That is, no meddling in other country's affairs and no wars. This is not total isolation as we firmly believe in trade. 

2. That all domestic progressive policies be enacted with as much fiscal constraint as possible. 

3. That all domestic progressive policies be enacted with the least amount of Federal power as possible. That is, aim to have the states endorse it first, and apply it federally only if the states do no accept it, even though the law is both necessary and proper. 

4. That you will appoint a White House farmer's council to analyse and build policy around the needs of farmers. 

5. That the American Progress Party will be given at least two spots in the cabinet. 

Dodge also will accept a spot as the VP if it helps defeat the Conservatives. He wishes not to change the name of the party, since the American Progress Party might not merge in future elections unless we win this election and the platform is successful. 

 

Liberals would find this to be a good deal, but warn that they don't support a full merger at this time, and would only really support it for this election cycle. 

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19 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

Liberals would find this to be a good deal, but warn that they don't support a full merger at this time, and would only really support it for this election cycle. 

American Progress states that they would accept this deal for this election only and a merger can be decided in the future, if practical for both parties. 

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5 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Even with the midterms, all that passed was the prohibition, national anthem, and railroad denationalizing laws. The ocean shipping industry is still nationalized. The Hawaiian funds have been secured. No literacy/extremist tests have passed.

 

State of the Union for Election of 1912
 

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National Strength: We rank 4th in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  United States, Japan, Mexico, Italy, France, Austria, Mexico, Canada. Mexican coups, along with a growing economy, have led to our rise.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 60,000 men and 58 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, and Panama. We are currently occupying French Polynesia and St Pierre and Miquelon.

Foreign Affairs: We are currently heavily arming pro-monarchist forces in France, and supporting the Republican/Monarchist faction in the Mexican coup. The French communist's strongholds in France have finally fallen, and all that exist now are small groups in rural towns in and outside of France, and on the remaining French colonial possessions. The current stance of the Mexican Civil War is 40% R/M 41% RCT/F and 19% C.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Our navy patrols our naval bases, and a small portion of our navy and army are occupying French Polynesia and St. Pierre and Miquelon. 

Economy: The economy is continuing in a state of growth, and has finally caught up to the top 3 European powers due to this.

Trade: Our trade is stagnant among third world nations, and surprisingly our private industries have maintained trade with Britain regardless of tariffs, and German trade is about the same. Trade with non-radical European countries has slightly improved.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with a solid 15% of our spending going to paying off our debt, aimed to be paid off by 1924. Our budget consists of the income of 27% taxes 34% tariff 27% overseas territories/canals and 12% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 45% military 10% gov. upkeep 15% infrastructure 15% disaster aid and 15% debt repayment.

Social Harmony: The country is basically united, as multiple successes have cast a shadow over the country's problems.

Immigration: Our immigration has slowed down, but is still at a level that puts us as the number one country accepting immigrants.

Mood of the people: The mood of the people is greatly satisfied.

Party Power: Conservatives are on an upwards trend, while polls project that the other parties will take small losses.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is greatly popular, and re-election should be guaranteed at this point.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Platform (see State of the Union):

Name and office: Henry Weaver, Current Member of the US House of Representatives from Iowa's 6th District (Essentially James B. Weaver).

Race and gender, if other than white male: White Male.

Party: Socialist Labor Party.

Resident state: Iowa (Born in Ohio).

Platform (see State of the Union): 

National Strength: Aim to move up one or two ranks in the top 10 country rankings.

Military Strength: Maintain the military and navy at the troop and ship levels they are currently at if the budget allows for it. Maintain naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba and Panama if those nations consent to them being maintained, withdraw from them if consent is not given. Remove troops from French Polynesia & Saint Pierre and Miquelon and help set up democratic, civilian-run governments there and plan for status referendums for both places so they can determine their own fates (Eg. Become a US Territory, become independent nations etc).

Foreign Affairs: Enact a policy of strict neutrality only engage in warfare if we are attacked or for humanitarian reasons (Or in exceptional circumstances). Withdraw support from the French Monarchist faction in the French Civil War, remain neutral instead. Withdraw support from the monarchists in the Mexican Civil War, continue support for the republicans but stop arms sales to them but send military advisors to train their armies instead.

Military: Have the military and navy perform training exercises to be prepared for possible attacks or potential humanitarian intervention,

Economy: Try and institute a progressive tax system, attempt to have at least one state-owned company in each industry and encourage the creation of workers co-operatives, institute a national 8-hour working day and give all workers two days off at the end of the week (Saturday and Sunday), Long-term aims are to establish a universal health care system and a social security system, institute heavy regulations on businesses whether they be publicly or privately owned, allow for trade unions to be formed if they are not already, institute a national minimum wage, continue the policy of bimetallism for small denominations of currency (under one dollar) and switch to using the civil war currency of greenbacks for denominations larger than a dollar, maintain the national bank as it is if one exists create one if there isn't one, maintain the independent treasury if there is one and create one if there isn't one, create an income tax if there isn't one already, repeal alcohol prohibition laws, tax and regulate alcohol instead.

Trade: Create free trade deals with nations if they agree to strict protections for workers and the natural resources of the nations involved 

Budget: A deficit is fine. Focus on how the government can make people's lives better.

Social Harmony: No comment.

Immigration: All immigrants are welcome as long as they have not committed serious crimes. 

Mood of the people: No Comment. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: No comment. 

Party Power: The party is willing to work with the Liberal and Progress Parties on issues of common interest.

VP nominee: Mary Alice Smith (WV) (@WVProgressive).

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13 hours ago, Kingthero said:

Even with the midterms, all that passed was the prohibition, national anthem, and railroad denationalizing laws. The ocean shipping industry is still nationalized. The Hawaiian funds have been secured. No literacy/extremist tests have passed.

 

State of the Union for Election of 1912
 

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National Strength: We rank 4th in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  United States, Japan, Mexico, Italy, France, Austria, Mexico, Canada. Mexican coups, along with a growing economy, have led to our rise.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 60,000 men and 58 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, and Panama. We are currently occupying French Polynesia and St Pierre and Miquelon.

Foreign Affairs: We are currently heavily arming pro-monarchist forces in France, and supporting the Republican/Monarchist faction in the Mexican coup. The French communist's strongholds in France have finally fallen, and all that exist now are small groups in rural towns in and outside of France, and on the remaining French colonial possessions. The current stance of the Mexican Civil War is 40% R/M 41% RCT/F and 19% C.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Our navy patrols our naval bases, and a small portion of our navy and army are occupying French Polynesia and St. Pierre and Miquelon. 

Economy: The economy is continuing in a state of growth, and has finally caught up to the top 3 European powers due to this.

Trade: Our trade is stagnant among third world nations, and surprisingly our private industries have maintained trade with Britain regardless of tariffs, and German trade is about the same. Trade with non-radical European countries has slightly improved.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, with a solid 15% of our spending going to paying off our debt, aimed to be paid off by 1924. Our budget consists of the income of 27% taxes 34% tariff 27% overseas territories/canals and 12% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 45% military 10% gov. upkeep 15% infrastructure 15% disaster aid and 15% debt repayment.

Social Harmony: The country is basically united, as multiple successes have cast a shadow over the country's problems.

Immigration: Our immigration has slowed down, but is still at a level that puts us as the number one country accepting immigrants.

Mood of the people: The mood of the people is greatly satisfied.

Party Power: Conservatives are on an upwards trend, while polls project that the other parties will take small losses.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is greatly popular, and re-election should be guaranteed at this point.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Platform (see State of the Union):

President John Rodgers (C-TX) announces bid for re-election in 1912

Age: 67

Vice President Hillsbury (C-IN) stays on as Vice President, however, Senator Talbot (C-NY) is offered a position as Secretary of State @Conservative Elector 2 

National Strength: It is through Conservative Leadership that America has become strong! We cannot allow this to end. Through our strong and strict place on the world stage and our embrace of private industry, we can make it to the top, and that is exactly what I plan to do, no matter if the other parties believe we should bow to foreign powers.

Military: We need to keep our military stable and continue to provide arms to the Mexican Freedom faction that will fight with our interests. Continue to occupy the islands we are and secure them officially at the conclusion of the French Civil War, make sure we have a seat at the table and send a strong delegation to the making of the treaty.

Foreign Affairs: Now that we have mostly wrapped up in France, we will begin to pull away aid as we help set up the French Government and begin to focus on pushing out the Fascists and Communists in Mexico. We will continue the incredibly strong presence on the world stage that none of my opponents seem to embrace. This is truly a shame as the American people want to be safe and want America to be respected, I have proven I am the only candidate willing to make the tough choices necessary for that status. Vote Conservative for a Strong Foreign Policy. Champion the Philadelphia Summit of 1910.

Economy: We had some serious victories here and the people know it. We cannot return to the decades of Liberal decline! It through the denationalization and deregulatory policies of Presidents Carpenter and Barker as well as this administration that we have seen economic booms. Only when Socialist and Liberal policies are implemented does the economy decline and people are worse off. I am proud to have denationalized the railroads, this leaves only International Shipping to be denationalized and we have our eyes set on that among many other goals for this next term.

Trade: There is no doubt that this has been the most Trade friendly administration. Even the Liberals couldn't find a way to spin that one! We will keep tariffs strong and protective but never venture into aggressive tariffs and their ensuing Trade Wars. We will use our economic might to influence the new French and Mexican governments that we help build and expand American influence. The Socialists and Liberals refuse to fill those power vacuums with American might leaving our interests aside, I will do no such thing and fight for America on the world stage.

Budget: This is great, we will be cutting more nationalization out and keeping the budget stable as most military ventures are coming to swift and successful conclusions. We are proud of the work done here.

Social Harmony: We are proud to have been the administration to connect American identity together as one patriotic people. However, this cannot be fully accomplished until we pass the EVA and the IVA, both of which should be sharp points of attack against the Liberals who refuse to fight extremism and stand up for the patriotic values that should be able to unite us all. We will fight hard for the American Identity and the American people with Social Issues. We have delivered great success on Foreign, Domestic, and Economic issues already, we have proven to get things done for Americans.

Immigration: As stated above, Immigration is wonderful, people should flock to the greatest nation in the world! That being said, we must pass the IVA in order to ensure that these immigrants truly do assimilate! That is why it is necessary that English be a requirement for citizenship and that American values be requisite of all immigrants. I am puzzled as to why the Liberals wouldn't support keeping the nation away from the far extreme, radical, and anti-American ideologies that plague the world and commit atrocities against the nation such as Fascism, Socialism, Anarchism, and Communism. 

Mood of the People: The people is what it's all about and I am proud to have their support, we need patriotism and American ideals to reign once more. We should be proud to be American! America is unique and so are it's people. The Conservatives recognize this and this is why we support our founding principles and ideas, this is why we have pushed for Law and Order measures to keep the people safe, and this is why we have expanded American global influence. America is the greatest nation in the world, we deserve to be proud of that, and more importantly, we should act like we're proud of it. We know that's the people desire, a strong leader who is not afraid to act on that.

Party Power: This election should come down to a roaring economy, strong law and order, dominant foreign policy, and American patriotism. The Conservatives have embodied all four of these things. We need to use a strong President to campaign for Congressional candidates in order to deliver strong majorities or pluralities in Congress so that we might finish the people's work. Look, Progress clearly has strayed from the greats like Henry, Barker, and Wesley. The followers of those men have been abandoned by Senator Dodge who has cast his lot in with the Liberals, more closely resembling President Brooke then President Barker! For all of those Progressives, for all of those Proud Americans who are Proud Westerners, I say welcome to the Conservative Party! The Party about defending your interests domestically and abroad through small government and American values, not to mention a roaring economy and keeping your families safe. This nation needs more Presidents like Aldridge, Carpenter, and Barker, and less like President Brooke, who the Liberals and Socialists, and now, unfortunately, Progressives, emulate more and more every day. They take credit for policies enacted above the former administrations that caused this growth that their own administrations have wiped away. We cannot tolerate this. So we must make a stand for action to deliver strong Conservative majorities under a big tent party, that preaches American Prosperity above all else. Progress has abandoned their values, the Liberals have refused to stand against radicalism and the Socialists loom large with their anti-American agenda. The choice is clear for America at the Presidential and Congressional level. Vote Conservative, Vote All-American.

Popularity of the President: Not much to say here after what has just been said (OOC: lol). We must use President Rodgers and his resounding successes and wild popularity to secure strong margins of victory and to gain as much of a coattail effect as we can. Continuously link the downballot to the top of the ticket and hope that Americans vote for their values and their interests when no other party will represent those things.

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I gladly accept this offer

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I forgot to say, but New Mexico and Arizona are now States.

1912 Election

Welcome to the election of 1912! For the first time since Liberty half a century ago, it seems that this race will be a landslide, regardless of the Progress-Liberal merger, which has more hurt Progress and the Liberals more than helped due to the shift of the platform. A supermajority of Americans are pro-intervention, so pulling an anti-intervention platform together was a bad move. The Conservative candidate had a few weak points during his term, but no candidate succeeded in pushing those points forward, especially when they made gaffes of their own. 

 

Primaries

There were no significant primaries. 

 

General Election Round 1

Rodgers/Hillsbury (Con) 454 EV 67% PV [All States but the ones below.]

Farnsworth/Spring (Lib) 77 EV 31% PV [UT, SD, IL, AL, GA, SC, NH]

Weaver/Smith (Soc) 0 EV 2% PV

 

RP Note: This election is very important because it is the first landslide in around half a century. The Conservatives used the economy, their opponent's weaknesses, and the accomplishments of the past to put together a solid platform that would even dull their most extreme beliefs. Liberals had a few holdout States, most key being Illinois where the difference between the Conservative vote in pre-election polling so was close that Socialist voters voted Liberal just so they could push them over the edge. The lack of support in the West is directly attributed to the Progress Party's radical shift towards liberalism, losing many of their pro-intervention and anti-big government voters. The Liberal Party's radical shift to being anti-intervention lost them many of their business voters, as the arms industry and the profit off of intervention is high. Labor issues have seemed to have quelled down where even wage workers are voting conservative because of the economy being good for them.

 

Also, as the South is much more industrialized than before, and the fact that race is not been an issue, Southern voters both white and black alike have begun to vote Conservative. The deeper the south, the more reluctant they are to switch however.

 

Congress

Conservatives 70% Senate 60% US Rep

Liberal 30% Senate 28% US Rep

Progress 0% Senate 10% US Rep

Socialists 0% Senate 2% US Rep

RP Note: While Conservatives have swept a supermajority in the Senate, and a majority in the House, a lot of these members are moderates. The Liberal Senate is also pro-intervention for the most part, as they are holding on to the values of their Party. The election merger cost Progress all their Senate seats, and has a house representation similar to the socialists last election.

 

@Reagan04 You will get the SOTU and Events either late tonight or tomorrow morning.

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

I forgot to say, but New Mexico and Arizona are now States.

1912 Election

Welcome to the election of 1912! For the first time since Liberty half a century ago, it seems that this race will be a landslide, regardless of the Progress-Liberal merger, which has more hurt Progress and the Liberals more than helped due to the shift of the platform. A supermajority of Americans are pro-intervention, so pulling an anti-intervention platform together was a bad move. The Conservative candidate had a few weak points during his term, but no candidate succeeded in pushing those points forward, especially when they made gaffes of their own. 

 

Primaries

There were no significant primaries. 

 

General Election Round 1

Rodgers/Hillsbury (Con) 454 EV 67% PV [All States but the ones below.]

Farnsworth/Spring (Lib) 77 EV 31% PV [UT, SD, IL, AL, GA, SC, NH]

Weaver/Smith (Soc) 0 EV 2% PV

 

RP Note: This election is very important because it is the first landslide in around half a century. The Conservatives used the economy, their opponent's weaknesses, and the accomplishments of the past to put together a solid platform that would even dull their most extreme beliefs. Liberals had a few holdout States, most key being Illinois where the difference between the Conservative vote in pre-election polling so was close that Socialist voters voted Liberal just so they could push them over the edge. The lack of support in the West is directly attributed to the Progress Party's radical shift towards liberalism, losing many of their pro-intervention and anti-big government voters. The Liberal Party's radical shift to being anti-intervention lost them many of their business voters, as the arms industry and the profit off of intervention is high. Labor issues have seemed to have quelled down where even wage workers are voting conservative because of the economy being good for them.

 

Also, as the South is much more industrialized than before, and the fact that race is not been an issue, Southern voters both white and black alike have begun to vote Conservative. The deeper the south, the more reluctant they are to switch however.

 

Congress

Conservatives 70% Senate 60% US Rep

Liberal 30% Senate 28% US Rep

Progress 0% Senate 10% US Rep

Socialists 0% Senate 2% US Rep

RP Note: While Conservatives have swept a supermajority in the Senate, and a majority in the House, a lot of these members are moderates. The Liberal Senate is also pro-intervention for the most part, as they are holding on to the values of their Party. The election merger cost Progress all their Senate seats, and has a house representation similar to the socialists last election.

 

@Reagan04 You will get the SOTU and Events either late tonight or tomorrow morning.

Well this going to be fun to play through being a member of the opposition that is, also I assume this is going to be akin to the GOP domination from 1920 to 1932 IRL?

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

The lack of support in the West is directly attributed to the Progress Party's radical shift towards liberalism, losing many of their pro-intervention and anti-big government voters.

Historically, at this time they were isolationist and progressive during this time and would have enthusiastically supported the Progress Party's shift. I made the shift to capture the mood of the West. I understand if the alternate history took a different turn since you took over. See Borah, Norris, La Follette and countless other from US History. To me this result comes off as rather abrupt and inaccurate even for our own RP. 

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American Progress Party dissolves; Leaders joins the Liberal Party. 

The party sees the Liberal Party as the only party promising any "Progress," as such they encourage the party leaders and their voters to henceforth become Liberal Party members. And after a large meeting in Milwaukee, they declare their party dead.

Dodge, Folette, and other American Progress Leaders promise to become active members of the Anti-Conservative Coalition. They will play the part of pro-farmer liberals, since a major section of the West follows these values. 

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17 minutes ago, vcczar said:

American Progress Party dissolves; Leaders joins the Liberal Party. 

The party sees the Liberal Party as the only party promising any "Progress," as such they encourage the party leaders and their voters to henceforth become Liberal Party members. And after a large meeting in Milwaukee, they declare their party dead.

Dodge, Folette, and other American Progress Leaders promise to become active members of the Anti-Conservative Coalition. They will play the part of pro-farmer liberals, since a major section of the West follows these values. 

The Leaders of the Socialist Labor Party are mulling over their options considering their poor performance in both the Presidential and Congressional elections.

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Sen. Dodge declines to lead the western wing of the Liberal Party. Sen. Larry Folette of WI leads the Western Wing and will offer himself henceforth as a VP nominee for the Liberal Party. 

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@vcczar As if this wasn't in the scope of your RP, the one where a President led for over twenty years in a one party state. Landslides are a realistic outcome if pretty much everything is going good.

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I am really excited to see how re-alignment works now that the Western party has dissolved, and the Conservative reign will ought to fall apart eventually.

 

I'll be posting the decisions and stuff tomorrow likely.

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Secretary of State Talbot congratulates President Rodgers on his re-election.

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

@vcczar As if this wasn't in the scope of your RP, the one where a President led for over twenty years in a one party state. Landslides are a realistic outcome if pretty much everything is going good.

I expected a landslide defeat. Victory wasn't on my radar. But an almost complete defeat in the West--the bulwark of American isolationism (anti-Imperialism)--when two major parties combine to endorse an isolationist platform and a platform that creates a White House Farming Council--basically ushering farmers to the forefront of White House policy, doesn't make much sense. Historically, Bryan's nomination was in part to the reaction to Imperialism--all hugely popular movements (Imperialism, in our case) create a powerful, though smaller, reaction. Bryan was that reaction. In our case, The American Progress Party took up this mantle as no other party did, but also because geographically it held the hearts of those that had no need for imperialism, since the farmers in the West delivered their goods domestically, for the most part, rather than abroad, as was the case with the Eastern portion and the extreme West Coast. Farmers were the dominant profession in the interior West. 

Anyway, I've said what I have to say, and I won't litter the board with my reactions anymore. 

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5 hours ago, Kingthero said:

I forgot to say, but New Mexico and Arizona are now States.

1912 Election

Welcome to the election of 1912! For the first time since Liberty half a century ago, it seems that this race will be a landslide, regardless of the Progress-Liberal merger, which has more hurt Progress and the Liberals more than helped due to the shift of the platform. A supermajority of Americans are pro-intervention, so pulling an anti-intervention platform together was a bad move. The Conservative candidate had a few weak points during his term, but no candidate succeeded in pushing those points forward, especially when they made gaffes of their own. 

 

Primaries

There were no significant primaries. 

 

General Election Round 1

Rodgers/Hillsbury (Con) 454 EV 67% PV [All States but the ones below.]

Farnsworth/Spring (Lib) 77 EV 31% PV [UT, SD, IL, AL, GA, SC, NH]

Weaver/Smith (Soc) 0 EV 2% PV

 

RP Note: This election is very important because it is the first landslide in around half a century. The Conservatives used the economy, their opponent's weaknesses, and the accomplishments of the past to put together a solid platform that would even dull their most extreme beliefs. Liberals had a few holdout States, most key being Illinois where the difference between the Conservative vote in pre-election polling so was close that Socialist voters voted Liberal just so they could push them over the edge. The lack of support in the West is directly attributed to the Progress Party's radical shift towards liberalism, losing many of their pro-intervention and anti-big government voters. The Liberal Party's radical shift to being anti-intervention lost them many of their business voters, as the arms industry and the profit off of intervention is high. Labor issues have seemed to have quelled down where even wage workers are voting conservative because of the economy being good for them.

 

Also, as the South is much more industrialized than before, and the fact that race is not been an issue, Southern voters both white and black alike have begun to vote Conservative. The deeper the south, the more reluctant they are to switch however.

 

Congress

Conservatives 70% Senate 60% US Rep

Liberal 30% Senate 28% US Rep

Progress 0% Senate 10% US Rep

Socialists 0% Senate 2% US Rep

RP Note: While Conservatives have swept a supermajority in the Senate, and a majority in the House, a lot of these members are moderates. The Liberal Senate is also pro-intervention for the most part, as they are holding on to the values of their Party. The election merger cost Progress all their Senate seats, and has a house representation similar to the socialists last election.

 

@Reagan04 You will get the SOTU and Events either late tonight or tomorrow morning.

I’m sorry, but I kind of disagree with a total wipeout of Progress in the Senate. A party with 25% representation wouldn’t get wiped out in one election, regardless of a landslide. You say gaffes but never really detail what they were besides isolationism, when elections rarely are decided on one issue alone. I get why Conservatives won, but I disagree with the magnitude and the way they won, because as president there were mistakes to exploit and you glossed them over. It’s all I’ll really say on the issue, and I get why Conservatives won.

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48 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

I’m sorry, but I kind of disagree with a total wipeout of Progress in the Senate. A party with 25% representation wouldn’t get wiped out in one election, regardless of a landslide. You say gaffes but never really detail what they were besides isolationism, when elections rarely are decided on one issue alone. I get why Conservatives won, but I disagree with the magnitude and the way they won, because as president there were mistakes to exploit and you glossed them over. It’s all I’ll really say on the issue, and I get why Conservatives won.

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I didn't want to keep arguing about this 1912 election, but I agree with Caleb and Hestia, and I want that to be noted on the record. I think this entire 1912 Election needs to be redone. Conservatives can still win, but it needs to be within the realm of reason even for an alternative history. The results in the West and the results in Congress make little sense. It's also as if there was no opposition to American Imperialism, when the whole history of it had a massive reaction to it, which made Bryan possible. I call for a 1912 Election redo, as I think this unrealistic result ruins the RP.  

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7 minutes ago, CalebsParadox said:

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Party Power: Conservatives are on an upwards trend, while polls project that the other parties will take small losses.

 

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OOC: I cannot say if a redo makes sense, but if you want to do one I will not obstruct. Landslide elections are not uncommon, taking the RL 1912 Wilson win or Roosevelt’s large victory against Alf Landon 1936. We had ours as well during the Liberty ruling. The total Senate wipe out might be not reasonable, however. Why would South Dakota for example elect a non-progress Senator? I always thought that Congressional elections are subject to the dice roll as well but perhaps that is done randomly based on how someone thinks. Anyway I still love the RP and I am not just saying this because the Conservatives won. 

(I could grumble about the fact that I was never (elected) President and that I was the last time in office 1821, but hey it is a game which makes my boring life a little bit better so I love to check it out everyday even though, not everything might be perfect)

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Ill answer this later, but note that Progress rolled a 1 on a 1-100 number gen and i used the excuse they swithed liberal. Also VCC completely changed the progress platform where it should be dissolved.

 

If we redo this election, then lets redo Liberty. That was real bullshit and reagan and I never whined about it.

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