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@Conservative Elector 2 @Reagan04 @CalebsParadox @WVProgressive I'm off to bed. If one of you can make a Conservative Candidate and one of your make a Liberal Candidate, then I'll calculate the new election as soon as I can tomorrow. This will probably be the most toss up election we've seen in awhile, especially with no incumbent running. 

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7 hours ago, vcczar said:
State of the Union for Election of 1896

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National Strength: We rank behind Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  France, Italy, Japan, and Mexico.  The recent war sees Russia as the strongest country. All countries on this list are not far ahead of us. The European War leveled the playing field. 

Military Strength: Our professional army is 120,000 men and 58 ships. We are building a naval base in Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Panama. 

Foreign Affairs: We are improving relations with Europe. Our relations with the 3rd World may be better at the moment. The European Powers are glad that we refuse to recognize Communist France and Socialist Italy. 

Military: Our military is currently defending against any potential Indian attacks. 

Economy: Our economy sunk from a recession back to a depression last term, but it should be back to a recession any month now. We have not had a strong economy in almost half a century. 

Trade: Trade is improving with agreements in the 3rd world and with relations improving with Great Britain and France. 

Budget: Our budget is restricted because of a low tariff, lower taxes and high government spending, especially on the military.

Social Harmony: Social harmony is more or less good, except for Western farmers.  

Immigration: Immigration is increasing with all sorts of European refugees. We don’t have enough jobs for everyone. Chinese immigrants in the West are also increasing. 

Mood of the people: The people seem happier but they are still disgruntled about the economy. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: the incumbent is respected, but reelection will be difficult. 

Party Power: Conservatives are the largest party, but they do not have a majority. 

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The next election is likely to be a complete tossup. 

Name and office:

State of residence:

Platform (see State of the Union above):

VP nominee: 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @Kingthero @Conservative Elector 2 @CalebsParadox @WVProgressive ***Let me know if you aren't running a candidate this year***

Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives John Rodgers (C-TX)

National Strength: This is absolutely unacceptable! We must reclaim our place as a global superpower. We must reinstitute the tried and true pro-business and small government policies that began to bring our economy to recovery in the late 1880s that were forsaken by President Atkisson which have plunged us back into recession. I will take us into the 20th century and forge it into a new American century.

Foreign Affairs: The fact that this Liberal government was not tougher on Communism and Socialism than it was is appalling! We need to not only allow our economy to grow free of the shackles placed unto it by the previous Big Government Administration and in doing so allow our Markets to reach across the planet and exercise trade influence across the world. We must establish Hegemony in the New World as President Carpenter first allowed us to do, and then build up relations with the Conservative governments of Europe.

Military: At this time we can allow for military cuts to work on the budget, use the might we have at this time to dispatch the Indians and allow us to complete our manifest destiny.

Economy: The American people must know by now that it is only through Conservative politics that our economy grows strong, this has been true throughout the entirety of our nation's existence and we will continue to deregulate, denationalize, and cut taxes in order to unlock the growth that would prove to be a boon only to be spoiled by the Atkisson administration.

Trade: I am proud to continue these ties with President Carpenter originally set, this is an incredibly important part of Economic Growth and Liberty as we increase this hegemony around the world. This is directly related to denationalization as well, the more we do so, the faster our economy grows.

Budget: As stated earlier, one of the key aspects of economic recovery is small government, this required hacks in taxing and spending liberalism that has kept our economy in the same rut for decades. It's time to vote for change and to allow that change the time to ferment and to grow and embolden a new century of American Prosperity. It's time to vote Conservative.

Social Harmony: Being a Western myself, and coming from a rural district, I understand and sympathize with the Western man. I support extended forbearance for his debt and strong growth to allow him to pay his debt to the banks which keep the nation's finances afloat. It is only in times of government excess that this relationship breaks down.

Immigration: We must turn to low levels of immigration before it is too late, I support measures which would increase quotas of immigration by how much our economy improves accordingly so that real Americans can reap those benefits the most. We oppose Chinese Immigration vigorously as they are suppressing the Western man's wage and do not fit into our culture.

Mood of the People: Use this to our advantage, point out how things began to improve under President Carpenter and tout the growth they experienced juxtaposed to sharp decline under Liberal administration.

Popularity: I respect President Atkisson for his role in the Treaty of New York, but we need a President that won't bow to more government power and refuse to be firm in his opposition to the odious ideologies of Communism and Socialism, a President interested in preserving American values and extending growth to real Americans, a President that cares about our founding values and Constitution, a Small Government Pro-Growth President for the people so long taken advantage of by Big Government.

Party Power: Once more, we need Conservative Congressman and Senators to pass my sweeping economic deregulation, fiscal responsibility, and immigration sensibility measures. We need a Congress that will aid me in our fight to take down the Big Government policies which have ailed the nation for so long.

Vice President: Sec. Herbert Lerman (NY) 

Secretary Lerman served as Secretary of the Treasury under President Carpenter and is a sweetheart of the Hardline Banking conservatives of the East, as Rodgers is seen as more malleable on Western issues than the Conservative orthodoxy, their favorite, Lerman, was chosen to keep them on board and enthusiastic.

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Vice President Fredrick Bunt will be running in this election, and vows to serve only a single term to the American people. 

(If we still get the 24 hours from the SoU I fully intend to finish the full platform)

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12 hours ago, vcczar said:
State of the Union for Election of 1896

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National Strength: We rank behind Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  France, Italy, Japan, and Mexico.  The recent war sees Russia as the strongest country. All countries on this list are not far ahead of us. The European War leveled the playing field. 

Military Strength: Our professional army is 120,000 men and 58 ships. We are building a naval base in Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Panama. 

Foreign Affairs: We are improving relations with Europe. Our relations with the 3rd World may be better at the moment. The European Powers are glad that we refuse to recognize Communist France and Socialist Italy. 

Military: Our military is currently defending against any potential Indian attacks. 

Economy: Our economy sunk from a recession back to a depression last term, but it should be back to a recession any month now. We have not had a strong economy in almost half a century. 

Trade: Trade is improving with agreements in the 3rd world and with relations improving with Great Britain and France. 

Budget: Our budget is restricted because of a low tariff, lower taxes and high government spending, especially on the military.

Social Harmony: Social harmony is more or less good, except for Western farmers.  

Immigration: Immigration is increasing with all sorts of European refugees. We don’t have enough jobs for everyone. Chinese immigrants in the West are also increasing. 

Mood of the people: The people seem happier but they are still disgruntled about the economy. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: the incumbent is respected, but reelection will be difficult. 

Party Power: Conservatives are the largest party, but they do not have a majority. 

***************

The next election is likely to be a complete tossup. 

Name and office:

State of residence:

Platform (see State of the Union above):

VP nominee: 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @Kingthero @Conservative Elector 2 @CalebsParadox @WVProgressive ***Let me know if you aren't running a candidate this year***

 

Name and office: Former Vice President Stephen McEnroe (Con)

State of residence: Missouri

Platform (see State of the Union above):

As much I appreciate John's work, I believe that people should have an option to choose. Therefore, I am tossing my hat into the ring.

 

National Strength: We should work here to get on the top again. America is not just a country, it is the best country and we need to show this by gaining a strong economy. Denationalize and deregulate businesses and do not let down the backbone of our nation. Small business owners and farmers.

Military Strength: It seems fine, but as we do not intend to engage in any war soon, we should think about ways to use the resources here in a more budget-friendly atmosphere.

Foreign Affairs: That is a good signal. The Liberal Administrations put us at odds with many of our former allies. Let us continue to work with our partners, but never ever fight a war for them. We will not recognize those nations under a Conservative government. We are improving relations with Europe. Our relations with the 3rd World may be better at the moment. The European Powers are glad that we refuse to recognize Communist France and Socialist Italy. 

Military: End those Indian wars once and for all. Treat all who are willing to recognize our values respectful but fight the troublemakers. 

Economy: President Carpenter got us on the right track again. Let us continue his record. I am sure another Conservative administration will make our country even stronger. 

Trade: Half of Europe hates us, thanks to the Liberal administration. So continue to rebuild our reputation here. Trade is a valuable thing for our people and companies. 

Budget: As business orientated Conservative I think high government spending is a thing we should to overthink a second time.

Social Harmony: Under a McEnroe administration we will let western farmers not down. We will not let down anyone in our country. Vote Conservative if you want real change.

Immigration: When we have many Americans currently unemployed we cannot accept large numbers of immigrants. We have to reduce the numbers because it does not make any sense letting people in first and cannot get them into work. And it is unfair to our people. We need to get Americans into jobs first.

Mood of the people: Under President Carpenter's administration people were more happy and that's the point I want to continue from.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The President has accomplished some good things, but in order to gain our nation on top again we will need a true Conservative leading us again.

Party Power: Vote Conservative down-ballot. A Conservative President can only work in a meaningful manner if he has the support of our congress.

VP nominee: John Rodgers (TX), I would serve as VP as well.

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7 hours ago, CalebsParadox said:

Vice President Fredrick Bunt will be running in this election, and vows to serve only a single term to the American people. 

(If we still get the 24 hours from the SoU I fully intend to finish the full platform)

Yeah, 24 hours from the original post calling for candidates. That leaves 6 hours. 

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23 hours ago, vcczar said:
State of the Union for Election of 1896

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National Strength: We rank behind Russia, Great Britain, Germany,  France, Italy, Japan, and Mexico.  The recent war sees Russia as the strongest country. All countries on this list are not far ahead of us. The European War leveled the playing field. 

Military Strength: Our professional army is 120,000 men and 58 ships. We are building a naval base in Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Panama. 

Foreign Affairs: We are improving relations with Europe. Our relations with the 3rd World may be better at the moment. The European Powers are glad that we refuse to recognize Communist France and Socialist Italy. 

Military: Our military is currently defending against any potential Indian attacks. 

Economy: Our economy sunk from a recession back to a depression last term, but it should be back to a recession any month now. We have not had a strong economy in almost half a century. 

Trade: Trade is improving with agreements in the 3rd world and with relations improving with Great Britain and France. 

Budget: Our budget is restricted because of a low tariff, lower taxes and high government spending, especially on the military.

Social Harmony: Social harmony is more or less good, except for Western farmers.  

Immigration: Immigration is increasing with all sorts of European refugees. We don’t have enough jobs for everyone. Chinese immigrants in the West are also increasing. 

Mood of the people: The people seem happier but they are still disgruntled about the economy. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: the incumbent is respected, but reelection will be difficult. 

Party Power: Conservatives are the largest party, but they do not have a majority. 

***************

The next election is likely to be a complete tossup. 

Name and office:

State of residence:

Platform (see State of the Union above):

VP nominee: 

@Hestia11 @Reagan04 @Kingthero @Conservative Elector 2 @CalebsParadox @WVProgressive ***Let me know if you aren't running a candidate this year***

 

Vice President Fredrick Bunt (L-GA) announces candidacy

National Strength: America is on an upward trend following the war, and our industry will begin to grow and prosper now that liberal policies are bringing us out of the Depression. 

Military Strength: Our army has no need to increase in size. In fact, with the war in Europe over, we can downsize significantly and focus further on industrial growth and building our alliances and relationships with other countries. 

Foreign Affairs: President Atkinson was wise to remain neutral in the European affairs, and his limited offense against the Spanish shows that we are not power hungry vultures. We should focus on building ourselves stronger relationships with the European powers, and put some effort into helping the British and Italian governments build their nations once again, including some financial aid. Tariffs should be lowered against both nations, though not against communist France. 

Military: Our military has no place inside of our nation for the time being, and it's size will be decreased. However, we must have troops ready to be transported overseas and begin training regarding transcontinental invasion, and look into the possibility of peacekeeping forces in former European territories if requested. 

Economy: Our economy must be managed by the government to ensure that industries do what is best for the worker and for the nation, without greed hindering our nations best interests. Nationalization of important industries must continue, and we must provide some bottom line support for those who need assistance, perhaps through employment drives. 

Trade: Trade will continue to improve with non European powers, and we will take efforts to improve trade and economic well-being within Great Britain and Italy. 

Budget: Our budget should receive considerably more net income with the reduction of our military and the raising of taxes. 

Social Harmony: The Liberal Party has shown that we as a nation are united, and that while we hold diverse opinions we can work together to be a dominant and positive force on the global stage. 

Immigration: Immigration is to be encouraged as refugees flee from unfavorable home countries. As the economy improves, they will find better jobs, but for now they will likely be stuck doing jobs that no white man of European descent would do. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: President Atkinson was popular among the people, however my administration would likely be a far more liberal and willing to take government action that his own. 

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1896 Election

This election is a tossup for all three parties. The Liberal Party, long in power, will have to put up a fight. Conservatives and Progress members have worked to expand their voter base. 

Liberal see African-American Liberal Party VP Frederick Bunt running for the presidency in hopes of being the first minority president. However, his race might play against him in some regions; although, the South is a lock for him. Madam Senator Theodora Roosevelt is the VP nominee. 

The Progress Party sees Barker as heir to Henry and Wesley in espousing Western values and the future of America. Inning is the VP nominee. 

The Conservative Party sees Rodgers and McEnroe---two Western Conservatives--fighting for the nomination. In a close convention, McEnroe defeats Rodgers for the nomination, as he is able to secure more delegates in the Northeast, as well as split the Western delegate count. Rodgers did better among the few Southern delegates. Rodgers is the VP nominee. 

General Election Round 1

McEnroe/Rodgers (Cons) 196 EV 40% PV [TX, LA, KY, MD, DE, WV, MO, OH, PA, NY, NJ, CT, RI, MA]

Barker/Inning (Pro) 126 EV 30% PV [every state West of MO, IA, MN, except TX. Also got MI, WI, IL, IN]

Bunt/Roosevelt (Lib)125 EV 30% PV [ME, NH, VT, MN, IA, all the remaining Southern states, including FL]

[Progress Party over performs, with a surprise victory in both IN and IL. Liberal Party was hit hard with voter fatigue, and mild racism against Bunt in some states. Conservatives surpassed expectations as well by locking up NY, PA, and OH. Nevertheless, Progress Party might be in a better Round 2 situation, as only a few states have a chance of flipping, and the South is adamantly opposed to the Conservative Party's fiscal conservatism.] 

General Election Round 2

Barker/Inning (Pro) 233 EV 45% PV [Held all their round 1 states. Gained MN, IA, all of the the Liberal Party's Southern states, except for FL

McEnroe/Rodgers (Cons)  55% PV 214 EV [Held all their round 1 states. Gained ME, NH, VT, FL

[Not too surprising, the Progress Party wins their first election in ages, as their Round 1 position was stronger with the electoral college than the Conservative position, despite many more voters preferring the Conservative Party.]

Congress

Liberal Senators 30%; US Reps 25%

Conservative Senators 45%; US Reps 50%

American Progress Senators 25%; US Reps 25%

[Rodgers remains as Speaker with Conservatives picking up seats in both houses of Congress. The Liberal Party is still the second largest party, but the Progress Party picked up more seats. Conservatives now have enough support where they can virtually block any legislation in the House; although, not in the Senate.] 

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Pres. Atkinson voices disappointment at the loss for his VP, but promises to be welcoming towards the new President-Elect. He vows to help the Liberals during the midterms pick up seats and hopefully put them back in a winning pattern.

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Vice President Bunt concedes the election and wishes President-elect Barker well after his party has been out of power for so long, and officially retires from politics, returning home to Georgia to live with his family. 

OOC: I will be announcing several new characters to play, as I should be able to handle them now. 

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State Representative Aaron Black (P-WA) easily triumphs over the weak Liberal-Conservative coalition candidate for the Gubernatorial race in Washington, becoming Governor at age 48. Black is an establishment Progressive. He is a more conservative member of the Progressive Party, and has numerous times been accused of being too favorable to Conservative proposed policy. 

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12 minutes ago, CalebsParadox said:

State Representative Aaron Black (P-WA) easily triumphs over the weak Liberal-Conservative coalition candidate for the Gubernatorial race in Washington, becoming Governor at age 48. Black is an establishment Progressive. He is a more conservative member of the Progressive Party, and has numerous times been accused of being too favorable to Conservative proposed policy. 

I think I once had a character in a short story I wrote back in high school with the name Aaron Black.

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Rep. Theodore "Ted" Hillsbury (C-IN) wins in a close 3-way election in Indiana to become the first Black Governor of the Hoosier State. He is seen as a purist Conservative, a member of the Carpenter faction and more East-friendly than his former Boss, Speaker Rodgers. He supported Vice President McEnroe over Speaker Rodgers as McEnroe was seen more favorably to the Purist wing, this caused a rift between the Speaker and the Hillsbury and forced him out of the House , opting for a successful bid for Governor of Indiana.

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Barker Celebrates his Win with Inning in Indiana

 

It is a grand day that the American People have elected a President that stands for everyone, away from establishment politics.

 

I am grateful that the American People have chosen me, and even though my term may not be perfect new ideas will surely be implemented to best protect American interests.

 

It is time to bring America INTO A NEW CENTURY!

 

God Bless you all here tonight, and God Bless every American soul.

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@Conservative Elector 2

 

Lewis Barker was born in October 24th, 1852, in what is known as Portland, Oregon, later moving to California and becoming prominent there after it was safe for his father to mine gold.

 

Harper Lewis was born in July 17th, 1845, in Springfield, Illinois.

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Events and Decisions for March 1897- Mar 1901 for Pres. Barker @Kingthero 

1) Silver Standard

Your Western supporters are now clamoring for a Silver Standard, which will allow them to pay their debts much easier. Bankers, financiers, stockmarket experts, economists--all of whom argue for a Gold Standard-- warn against this. We are currently using both Gold and Silver (Bimetalism). 

2) Socialists, Communists, Fascism, and in the US

These three ideologies are growing in prominence in the country (not enough to field a competitive party, yet). These ideologies have been brought over partially through European refugees. Social conservatives are calling for action to squash these ideas from growing in the country and by preventing these sorts of ideas from coming into the country. 

4) Tariffs

Economists are calling for high tariffs on Europe. A tariff bill did not pass last election. 

5) Capitalist Attempts to Save the Economy Again

The wealthiest man in America, banker Rockefeller Carnegie Rothschild von Vanderbilt again offers a bailout for our government at his own expense if the government agrees to denationalize all industries and appoint him as President of the Bank of the United States. As Pres of the bank he would argue for a high tariff and a Gold Standard. The Liberal Party administration opted not to take him up on his offer. Currently, we've moved back to a recession, after having dipped back into a Depression. 

6) Ship sinks! 

One of our battleships was sunk off the coast of Cuba, where we have recently established a base. All aboard were lost. Rumor has it that the ship was sunk purposely. No one saw the event, but Great Britain, France, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Russia, and Turkey have all had vessels coming and going in the area. 

7) Labor Unions march

Labor Unions are protesting for higher wages and less working hours for all industries. Currently, we have 8 hour work weeks for nationalized industries. Not a single industry outside of our current control has an 8 hour week. 

😎 Prohibitionists

Prohibitionists march to Washington DC demanding a ban on alcohol, which is a "great evil" ruining families and people's souls. 

9) Canal in Panama

Leaders of the shipping industry are calling for a canal to be built near our base in Panama, we would control this new port, shipping would improve. It would be expensive to implement, but we should be able to make the money back. If we proceed with this, how to we pay for it? 

10) Reforming America

As your party hasn't led the country in ages, are there any policies from the last couple of administrations that you wish to reverse? 

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9 hours ago, Kingthero said:

@Conservative Elector 2

 

Lewis Barker was born in October 24th, 1852, in what is known as Portland, Oregon, later moving to California and becoming prominent there after it was safe for his father to mine gold.

 

Harper Lewis was born in July 17th, 1845, in Springfield, Illinois.

OOC: Thanks for that but due to the major Wikipedia clash I had, I do not know how to continue. A simple list is possible but a bit unexciting. I will think about this.

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1 hour ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

OOC: Thanks for that but due to the major Wikipedia clash I had, I do not know how to continue. A simple list is possible but a bit unexciting. I will think about this.

Didn't someone else make another webpage for our alternate history? 

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54 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Didn't someone else make another webpage for our alternate history? 

Yes and I even experimented with it but the results are rather poor, since it does not have the same features of the original Wiki. I pasted the code and it looks quite terrible, missing colours, no politician info boxes etc. This kind of pages are ok https://new-historical-president.wikia.com/wiki/Jefferson_Bunt but my beloved list is not working so good. I copied a photo of the list into it, but it is not clickable that way. Please scroll down so you can see what I am talking about. https://new-historical-president.wikia.com/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

@Kingthero sorry for the Iowa mistake. It should be Liberal territory in round 1. I will fix it as soon as I have some time.

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13 minutes ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

Yes and I even experimented with it but the results are rather poor, since it does not have the same features of the original Wiki. I pasted the code and it looks quite terrible, missing colours, no politician info boxes etc. This kind of pages are ok https://new-historical-president.wikia.com/wiki/Jefferson_Bunt but my beloved list is not working so good. I copied a photo of the list into it, but it is not clickable that way. Please scroll down so you can see what I am talking about. https://new-historical-president.wikia.com/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

@Kingthero sorry for the Iowa mistake. It should be Liberal territory in round 1. I will fix it as soon as I have some time.

OOC: I guess keep making the pages as best as you can. When we are done, I'll try and figure out a way to make the list look better. I do like the politician pages. I'll add more to those when we are done with this as well. I think what I will do is play out this RP to 2020. Then we will take a break to analyze our alternate history and fill out these wiki pages more fully. Then we will continue the RP as far as we can into the future, filling out the pages as complete as we can as we go along. 

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1) Silver Standard

Before I make a decision on this, I would like to know the current laws behind bimetalism. Are banks required to provide fair exchange rates? Is the current rate of exchange fair? Any speculation?

2) Socialists, Communists, Fascism, and in the US

There is no point in going after radical ideas unless they pose a threat to our national security. As there has been no violence, I see no reason to persecute people just people of their beliefs.

4) Tariffs

I will veto any tariff bill that raises tariffs on Europe; the only way we are going to bring our businesses back into the European market is by utilizing our private industry to export more and more goods without fear of too much government interference.

5) Capitalist Attempts to Save the Economy Again

See if denationalizing industries would allow him to give the Government a partial bailout.

6) Ship sinks! 

Launch a military investigation into the situation, and immediately bring all results to my office. There is a possibility it was the Spanish...

7) Labor Unions march

I want to meet with the labor leaders to discuss alternative forms of action, and I also want to meet with the businesses as well.

😎 Prohibitionists

Alcohol is terrible if abused, but banning alcohol will result in both an awkward shift of culture and possible illegal trading increasing. If we ban alcohol, and criminals learn how to avoid a ban, then imagine what other illicit things they can avoid in the future. 

 

However, I want to meet with the prohibitionists, and see if there are any laws that would lessen the evils of alcohol without posing a risk to culture and security.

9) Canal in Panama

To pay for the canal, we shall cut the standing military to 80,000 people, and utilize those wages to pay for the labor and supplies on the canal.

10) Reforming America

Firstly, nationalizing the mining industry was one of the biggest hits to the West Coast mining industry. I firmly believe that mining should stay out of Government hands, and wish the denationalize this industry as soon as possible.

 

Next, I want to denationalizing the railroad industry. However, I will only denationalizing this industry if lawmakers can agree to passing legislation that will only allow one universal railroad size to exist in order to preserve our current railroad infrastructure and avoid a decline.

 

I also want to officially create a reserve army, one that will only be called if our Nation is at risk of invasion. This is a defensive only army, and should easily attract people who only want to defend this country and not embark on invasions.

 

I also want to work with business leaders to create an arms industry, which we can use to greatly benefit our foreign trade, knowing that foreign powers love to go to war and need a lot of supplies.

 

Finally, I want a list of the rest of the nationalized industries to see which ones they are and what next steps need to be taken.

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Our lists in easy.

Fed        – Jefferson Bunt – VA – March 4, 1789 – March 4, 1797

Fed        – Samuel Lewis Jr. – NY – March 4, 1797 – March 4, 1801

Rep        – William M. Aldridge – PA – March 4, 1801 – March 4, 1809

Fed        – Alexander Bunt Jr. – VA – March 4, 1809 – March 4, 1820 (resigned)

Fed        – Walter Gordon Maxwell – NH – March 1, 1820 – March 4, 1821

Rep        – William M. Aldridge – PA – March 4, 1821 – March 4, 1829

Pro         – Godfrey Henry – TN – March 4, 1829 – March 4, 1833

Fed        – Thomas Gates – DE – March 4, 1833 – March 4, 1841

Pro         – Godfrey Henry – TN – March 4, 1841 – March 4, 1849

Fed        – Elijah T. Morris – MA – March 4, 1849 – March 4, 1861 (served as Progressive from March 4, 1857)

Lib          – Gregory Brooke – ME – March 4, 1861 – March 4, 1885

Con        – Frederick J. Carpenter – NY – March 4, 1885 – March 4, 1889

Lil           – Sven Atkinson – OH – March 4, 1889 – March 4, 1897

Pro         – Lewis Barker – CA – March 4, 1897 –

 Vice Presidents

Fed        – Samuel Lewis Jr. – NY – March 4, 1789 – March 4, 1797

Rep        – Jacob William Henderson – VA – March 4, 1797 – March 4, 1801

Fed        – Samuel Lewis Jr. – NY – March 4, 1801 – April 30, 1801

Vacant – April 30, 1801 – Mach 4, 1805

Rep        – Herman J. Bigelow – VA – March 4, 1805 – March 4, 1809

Fed        – Silas Baldwin – DE – March 4, 1809 – March 4, 1820 (resigned)

Vacant - March 1, 1820 – Mach 4, 1821

Rep        – Herman J. Bigelow – VA – March 4, 1821 – March 4, 1829

Pro         – Henry Clinton – NY – March 4, 1829 – March 4, 1833

Ind         – Frederick C. Dallsworth – NJ – March 4, 1833 – March 4, 1837

Fed        – Philemon Chase – MA – March 4, 1837 – March 4, 1841

Pro         – Richard B. Carlyle – IN – March 4, 1841 – March 4, 1849

Fed        – Frederick C. Dallsworth – NJ – March 4, 1849 – March 4, 1853

Fed        – Benjamin M. Hickory – CT – March 4, 1853 – March 4, 1857

Fed        – Mark J. Hamilton – MD – March 4, 1857 – March 4, 1861

Lib          – Philemon Gutch – NH – March 4, 1861 – December 31, 1875

Vacant - January 1, 1876 – Mach 4, 1877

Lib          – Fredrick Bunt – AL – March 4, 1877 – March 4, 1885

Con        – Stephen F. McEnroe – MO – March 4, 1885 – March 4, 1889

Lil           – Harry Rothschild – CA – March 4, 1889 – March 4, 1893

Lil           – Fredrick Bunt – AL – March 4, 1893 – March 4, 1897

Pro         – Harper Inning – IL – March 4, 1897 –

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1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Before I make a decision on this, I would like to know the current laws behind bimetalism. Are banks required to provide fair exchange rates? Is the current rate of exchange fair? Any speculation?

OCC: As I'm not an economic historian, and the history books pass over this, I can't answer this. For the sake of the RP, we will simplify this greatly. Silver will be inflationary and will allow the poor Western farmers to pay back their debts quicker while also making your primary voter base happy. However, Silver will turn the banking, financial, and business institutions against you and will allow for a good probability of at least a temporary financial collapse, which probably won't affect your poor farmers as much as it would the cities. Moving to the Gold Standard or opting to stay with Bimetalism will upset your base in the West mightily, since they've been calling for Silver for over a decade or more. Moving to the Gold Standard will earn you support in the Industrial East Coast. Staying with Bimetalism will avoid any new economic instability, but it will make neither side happy. No one expects you to move to Gold. Your base expects you to move to Silver.  To answer your questions would require me to read an indepth book on bimetalism, which I don't plan on doing. I do, however, understand the general politics of bimetalism at the time, as well as the major theory on the economic volatility of the time. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

I will veto any tariff bill that raises tariffs on Europe; the only way we are going to bring our businesses back into the European market is by utilizing our private industry to export more and more goods without fear of too much government interference.

A Liberal Party economist argues that for our private industry to export more it must face less competition and grow. We went decades without growing because of the long depression. We will be overwhelmed against Europe's more advanced economies.  However, Conservative Party economists argue against the government interfering in trade, stating that with free trade goods are cheaper, even if they are foreign made. Without presidential support, there is no way a tariff bill passes, since the Conservative Party opposes raised tariffs; therefore, this issue will have to wait until it is brought up again.  New England's support, since it now wants a high tariff more than ever, is shifting away from the Conservatives to the Liberals over this issue. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

See if denationalizing industries would allow him to give the Government a partial bailout.

OCC: Just for clarification, are you saying that for partial bailout, you will denationalize the industries, but you will not offer him the President of the Bank of the United States? 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Launch a military investigation into the situation, and immediately bring all results to my office. There is a possibility it was the Spanish...

An investigation is conducted. Mexico is ruled out. They also rule that, except for the case of an accident, Great Britain is also ruled out.  While nothing is proven, the lead culprits are currently Germany (who we betrayed as an ally), Communist France (who we won't recognize), or Socialist Italy (who we won't recognize). 

OCC: While Spain was the historical culprit, our alternate history could be different, since events have changed the world, even in the Caribbean. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

I want to meet with the labor leaders to discuss alternative forms of action, and I also want to meet with the businesses as well.

The meeting appears to be inconclusive. As a compromise isn't met. The businesses see no profit in both raising wages and lowering hours. The workers want more control over the businesses through a labor union, something the businesses won't accept. Nationalized industries can be work through via an executive order--and they currently have an 8 hour work day, but not a wage increase. Those that are not a part of a nationalized industry have neither the 8 hour work day or a wage increase. With the current economy still not recovered, business feel they can easily replace any worker that complains for higher pay or fewer work hours, since unemployment is high. The protesters are risking their jobs to meet with you and some have been fired during the protest. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

However, I want to meet with the prohibitionists, and see if there are any laws that would lessen the evils of alcohol without posing a risk to culture and security.

The more compromising prohibitionist leaders suggest a national ban on hard liquor and strong beer. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

To pay for the canal, we shall cut the standing military to 80,000 people, and utilize those wages to pay for the labor and supplies on the canal.

A bill to cut the military to gather funds for the Panama Canal is cobbled together. It needs the support of Conservatives to pass @Conservative Elector 2 and @Reagan04

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Firstly, nationalizing the mining industry was one of the biggest hits to the West Coast mining industry. I firmly believe that mining should stay out of Government hands, and wish the denationalize this industry as soon as possible.

 

Next, I want to denationalizing the railroad industry. However, I will only denationalizing this industry if lawmakers can agree to passing legislation that will only allow one universal railroad size to exist in order to preserve our current railroad infrastructure and avoid a decline.

 

I also want to officially create a reserve army, one that will only be called if our Nation is at risk of invasion. This is a defensive only army, and should easily attract people who only want to defend this country and not embark on invasions.

 

I also want to work with business leaders to create an arms industry, which we can use to greatly benefit our foreign trade, knowing that foreign powers love to go to war and need a lot of supplies.

 This needs the support of Conservatives to pass @Conservative Elector 2 and @Reagan04. Let me know which specifically you support. 

1 hour ago, Kingthero said:

Finally, I want a list of the rest of the nationalized industries to see which ones they are and what next steps need to be taken.

Education, shipping, fishing, and textile industries are also nationalized. 

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