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8 minutes ago, vcczar said:

@Hestia11 has 13 hours to respond or his character dies in office. I'm off to bed. 

Working on it should be up in the morning or so (8h)

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22 hours ago, vcczar said:

A compromise bill is passed. Progress voters support some more nationalization in exchange for agriculture being free of nationalization or a child labor ban. 

1. Railroads, shipping, mining, oil, factory production, education (excluding church-run schools) will all be nationalized. 

2. Child labor will be banned in all these nationalized areas. 

3. An 8 hour work day will passed only for women and children. 

4. Wages will be set by a Federal Commission

5. Congress will take no position on Unions for professions outside of the nationalized realm. 

6. The government will be authorized to use force in the event of any strikes, whether it is a nationalized profession or otherwise. 

This bill is on your desk. 

You need to be more specific on what you mean "negotiate better terms." Diplomats have arrived to meet British diplomats in Canada, and in Mexico, and in France. They await further orders. On the up side, both Mexico and Canada have pulled their troops from the border, as they no longer see us as a threat, and because they need them in Europe. The war is currently going in the German Alliance's favor. Germans are passing through their ally Spain to help invade Portugal. 

Free Trade Agreements have been made with several countries in these regions. The opening of trade in several new countries may inevitably help our economy. 

Congress barely passes a Pension bill, cutting the individual amount for each veteran so as to cover more veterans. The US veterans that already has pensions are obviously upset, but those that never had pensions are glad they are receiving them. 

Republicans and Progress congress persons sponsor a bill to protect 7 areas for conservation. The bill is on your desk. 

This response upsets Westerners and rallies Progress members and Conservative members to unite against these tribes in Congress. The pass a non-binding vote to advise the president to use military force to drive these Natives into Indian Territory. 

Citing the current economic situation and the desire to invade Cuba, this bill is blocked, despite initially having enough votes. 

The Opposition parties deem the president too soft in this area, and make a non-binding vote in favor of the president using force in Hawaii to overthrow the Queen. 

In other news, the military embarks on an invasion of Cuba with the hope that holding the island will allow for a bargaining piece to maintain a base there. Alternatively, we could seek to win Independence for people living in Cuba, if we don't choose to annex it outright. 

1. The President will sign the compromise bill. 

2. Offer Britain a loan of 6 battleships. Make it clear that at the end of the war we would either like them back or compensated for them. We will invade Cuba and draw up plans to invade Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Offer Mexico an economic plan and perhaps joining one of the Free Trade Agreements we have signed with South America or smaller Central American nations. France is overrun, and offer them safe places to meet with their Allies here in the US. It's weird that we're a third party and not involved with one side or another.

3. We celebrate this as a bipartisan compromise that has helped the American consumer!

4. The Pension bill will inevitably help us as we can raise the amount of money to people later.

5. Sign the conservation bill.

6. The President will act against hostile Indian forces but not against those that aren't causing harm. 

7. Prepare preparations for an invasion of Cuba. As for the Queen of Hawaii, if there isn't a response, we will prepare to invade there as well. 

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4 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Offer Britain a loan of 6 battleships. Make it clear that at the end of the war we would either like them back or compensated for them. We will invade Cuba and draw up plans to invade Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Offer Mexico an economic plan and perhaps joining one of the Free Trade Agreements we have signed with South America or smaller Central American nations. France is overrun, and offer them safe places to meet with their Allies here in the US. It's weird that we're a third party and not involved with one side or another.

Your military advisers and economic advisers state that either taxes will need to be raised if we extend invasions to Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Alternatively, we can take out a loan with a major power, but our debt is already higher than fiscal conservative desire. 

@Kingthero and @Reagan04 as party leaders will need to respond to raising taxes or taking out a loan to expand the invasion beyond Cuba (and Hawaii, actually). Additionally, they will have to respond to loaning the British 6 battleships. Lastly, they will need to respond to allowing French refugees. Really the Liberal Party only needs the support of one of these factions for any of these. The military will wait to invade Cuba or Hawaii until Congress has voted. 

In other news, the German Alliance has completely overrun the European continent, and they are preparing for an invasion of Great Britain. France is rebelling against Napoleon IV (a puppet ruler for Germany), and it appears this Socialist led Revolution might overthrow France, causing problems for the German invasion. Socialists are also carrying out attacks against German-occupied Italy. 

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@vcczar

We will support the loaning of 6 battleships to Britain, a chance to show good will.

We will support only invading Cuba and Hawaii at this time.

We do not believe that the President asked us to accept French refugees, but rather to welcome their leaders, which will be supported.

 

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We support the battleships;

 

We only support Cuba/Hawaii invasions until they are complete to attack others.

 

We will only accept refugees if Congress comes up with efficient immigration reform that puts both the states and the federal government in coordination for the best housing and job strategies for new immigrants/refugees.

 

 

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

Your military advisers and economic advisers state that either taxes will need to be raised if we extend invasions to Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Alternatively, we can take out a loan with a major power, but our debt is already higher than fiscal conservative desire. 

@Kingthero and @Reagan04 as party leaders will need to respond to raising taxes or taking out a loan to expand the invasion beyond Cuba (and Hawaii, actually). Additionally, they will have to respond to loaning the British 6 battleships. Lastly, they will need to respond to allowing French refugees. Really the Liberal Party only needs the support of one of these factions for any of these. The military will wait to invade Cuba or Hawaii until Congress has voted. 

In other news, the German Alliance has completely overrun the European continent, and they are preparing for an invasion of Great Britain. France is rebelling against Napoleon IV (a puppet ruler for Germany), and it appears this Socialist led Revolution might overthrow France, causing problems for the German invasion. Socialists are also carrying out attacks against German-occupied Italy. 

Congress overwhelmingly passes the president's demands. 

In other news, the economy has moved out of a depression, and is now in a recession. Conservatives claim the economy is improving through the measures of Pres. Carpenter, while Liberals promote the incumbent President as the source for economic improvement. 

I'll type up the new State of the Union shortly. 

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2 hours ago, vcczar said:

Congress overwhelmingly passes the president's demands. 

In other news, the economy has moved out of a depression, and is now in a recession. Conservatives claim the economy is improving through the measures of Pres. Carpenter, while Liberals promote the incumbent President as the source for economic improvement. 

I'll type up the new State of the Union shortly. 

Is there any responses from Britain or France?

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

Is there any responses from Britain or France?

Sorry about that. Great Britain accepts the warships, which they will either return or pay for. They are currently defending against a potential invasion and so the diplomats can only correspond precariously. The French aristocrats, including Napoleon IV (by surprise), have arrived in France, which is currently being taken over by a populist socialist group. 

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State of the Union for Election of 1892

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National Strength: We rank behind Great Britain, France, and Germany in national production. We have sunk below Russia in production to number 5. We are on par with Italy, Japan, and Mexico.  

Military Strength: Our professional army is 120,000 men and 58 ships, but this force is costly. We are building a naval base in Hawaii and Panama. 

Foreign Affairs: Our relations are better with the 3rd World than with Europe. We are improving relations with Great Britain. 

Military: Our military is used to guard our borders. We are also invading Cuba and Hawaii. Europe is at war. 

Economy: Our depression has improved to a recession. 

Trade: Trade is improving with agreements in the 3rd world and with relations improving with Great Britain and France. 

Budget: Our budget is improving with better trade. 

Social Harmony: Social harmony is more or less good for the first time in awhile. 

Immigration: Immigration is increasing with all sorts of European refugees. We don’t have enough jobs for everyone. Chinese immigrants in the West are also increasing. 

Mood of the people: The people seem happier but they are still disgruntled about the economy. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: the incumbent is popular among his party and respected elsewhere. However, business leaders and fiscal conservatives oppose him. The election will likely be close, but re-election seems barely more likely than not. 

Party Power: Liberty Party narrowly has a lead on Conservatives with the American Progress party forming a kind of swing vote. 

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Fill out below for the election--

Name and office:

State of residence:

Platform (see State of the Union, but the major issues are relations with Europe, invasion of Cuba and Hawaii, nationalized industries, the economy):

Create a VP nominee: 

 

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4 hours ago, vcczar said:
State of the Union for Election of 1892

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National Strength: We rank behind Great Britain, France, and Germany in national production. We have sunk below Russia in production to number 5. We are on par with Italy, Japan, and Mexico.  

Military Strength: Our professional army is 120,000 men and 58 ships, but this force is costly. We are building a naval base in Hawaii and Panama. 

Foreign Affairs: Our relations are better with the 3rd World than with Europe. We are improving relations with Great Britain. 

Military: Our military is used to guard our borders. We are also invading Cuba and Hawaii. Europe is at war. 

Economy: Our depression has improved to a recession. 

Trade: Trade is improving with agreements in the 3rd world and with relations improving with Great Britain and France. 

Budget: Our budget is improving with better trade. 

Social Harmony: Social harmony is more or less good for the first time in awhile. 

Immigration: Immigration is increasing with all sorts of European refugees. We don’t have enough jobs for everyone. Chinese immigrants in the West are also increasing. 

Mood of the people: The people seem happier but they are still disgruntled about the economy. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: the incumbent is popular among his party and respected elsewhere. However, business leaders and fiscal conservatives oppose him. The election will likely be close, but re-election seems barely more likely than not. 

Party Power: Liberty Party narrowly has a lead on Conservatives with the American Progress party forming a kind of swing vote. 

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Fill out below for the election--

Name and office:

State of residence:

Platform (see State of the Union, but the major issues are relations with Europe, invasion of Cuba and Hawaii, nationalized industries, the economy):

Create a VP nominee: 

 

Former President Frederick Carpenter

(C-NY)

I have decided, that, after many of my friends and supporters wrote to my home and I was moved to see such support for myself and the effects of my policies, I will seek another term as President.

National Strength: Sinking below Russia is intolerable. We need a continuation of the Conservative policies that got us out of the Depression and will continue to lead us out of the recession. We support strong industrial growth through economic deregulatory measures.

Military Strength: This is a solid amount for now, I support our actions in Cuba and Hawaii but would limit them there. We need a strong military ready to take on both of these challenged and we cannot spread ourselves too thin.

Foreign Affairs: We need to set up our Trade conferences and increase our influence over the 3rd world and over the Western Hemisphere. It is Great to continue the support of Britain.

Military: Continue supporting Britain as I had set us on the path to do so. Otherwise focus on Cuba and Hawaii presently.

Economy: I am proud to have laid the groundwork to get us out of the depression, but we must do more. By continually deregulating and denationalizing as this Party has always done, our economy will boom. The economically weak state of Europe gives us a prime opportunity to become a global economic superpower.

Trade: We will work with Britain, France, Mexico, and the 3rd world exclusively and work to shore up their economies while providing much greater economic benefits for ours.

Budget: Keep the budget small though I recognize the need for emergency war funding.

Social Harmony: I am proud to run on my record of Law and Order and I will continue to do this as I champion a defeat of crime in the nation as a point for a second term.

Immigration: We need to put quotas on these refugees and be extremely selective with these Chinese immigrants if we allow them at all.

Mood of the People: I offer the people the chance to vote for the policies that began to kickstart the economy, we cannot allow this progress to be lost and for the nation to fall back into a depression.

Popularity: We thank the President for his work on Foreign Affairs and run a positive campaign talking about my Economic and Law and Order Credentials for this election.

Party Power: In order to accomplish the scaling back of nationalization and to put more money in the pockets of the people, the people will need to not only elect me to the White House, but elect a Conservative Congress.

I run on my strong record and reiterate many of the same policies that I enacted in my first term that have greatly benefited the people.

Senator John Rodgers (C-TX)

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Former Vice President McEnroe (C-MO) endorses Former President Carpenter and would be gladly accepting the post of Vice President if offered again.

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@vcczar

Fill out below for the election--

Name and office: President Sven Atkinson

State of residence: L-OH

Platform (see State of the Union, but the major issues are relations with Europe, invasion of Cuba and Hawaii, nationalized industries, the economy):

National Strength: As we went into our administration, we promised to move above some of these countries. We are continuing on our path to making this possible.

Military Strength: Go through with the invasions of Cuba and Hawaii. Hawaii should be immediately turned into a territory for further use, and we shall see what we should do with Cuba when the time comes. Whether or not we make it independent depends on Congress, but our party personally believes it should be incorporated as a territory first.

Foreign Affairs: Use the improved relations as a key note of our campaign. The Conservatives wrecked our relations with Europe and now we are finally picking up the pieces. Britain is only the start, we will work to repair relations with France and other allies of Britain as well. Our prestige will be better once we take down Spain in Cuba.

Military: Decrease the number of troops guarding the Canadian border as a sign of goodwill towards the British. Use some to invade Cuba and Hawaii.

Economy: Tout our governmental policies that have changed this for the better. Show the people that the Liberal party is the one they should put their trust in for the economy, and that we worked very hard to do this. Promise with 4 more years of Liberal power, we would keep the economy on the upward trajectory.

Trade: Hope with improving relations with Britain and France, they might relax trade policies with us. Offer Britain an expeditionary force of 4,500 troops to be based in Britain only if there is an invasion of the Island.

Budget: Keep up the work on this front, perhaps invest in more governmental jobs for the people. 

Social Harmony: The Liberal Party is why this has improved. We have done well in our first 4 years and we will make it even better in the next term.

Immigration: As much as it pains us to say, we simply can't take this many people in. Propose to lower it to 30,000 to keep up the sustained effort.

Mood of the people: We understand why people are disgruntled about the economy, and promise that we will continue to make it better for everyone, not just the rich. Our policies have directly helped many in the US, and we will continue that on our way forward.

Popularity of the Incumbent: I have done many things for our country, served for 10 years in the House, 18 in the Senate, and now 4 as President. I will serve Americans dutifully and humbly on our way forward. Plan to meet British leaders in Canada to discuss the war.

Party Power: Our government will lead to down-ballot Liberal victories. We want all hands on deck for this election.

Create a VP nominee: Henry Rothschild, VP of the US

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@Kingthero has 10 hours to respond or I'll assume the American Progress Party isn't fielding a candidate and will dissolve as a party.

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Sorry I kinda disappeared,I was offered a job from the campaign manager of a congresswoman running,But I'm back now (Though I may not be able to respond consistently) 

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16 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

People sleep you know, damn. I'm still here...

I know people sleep, but I give people 24 hours to respond to critical events (events/decision and elections). You don't sleep 24 hours. 

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I went to bed at 9, 15 hours ago. you posted 15 hours ago. I have insomnia.

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4 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

I went to bed at 9, 15 hours ago. you posted 15 hours ago. I have insomnia.

I know, and I gave the warning that you have 10 hours to respond with a candidate. That will equate to giving you 26 hours from the time of the post. 

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Just now, vcczar said:

I know, and I gave the warning that you have 10 hours to respond with a candidate. That will equate to giving you 26 hours from the time of the post. 

That wasn't the point lol; I was more upset you were so ready to dissolve a party at 1/5 of American representation and subconsciously acted like I wouldn't post. I've been involved every single election, and if I disappeared obviously something terrible must have happened. I've been participating in this roleplay the whole time it's been up, and I was a bit hurt you were so quick and ready to just discredit my presence and destroy everything I worked for.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Kingthero said:

That wasn't the point lol; I was more upset you were so ready to dissolve a party at 1/5 of American representation and subconsciously acted like I wouldn't post. I've been involved every single election, and if I disappeared obviously something terrible must have happened. I've been participating in this roleplay the whole time it's been up, and I was a bit hurt you were so quick and ready to just discredit my presence and destroy everything I worked for.

 

 

It wasn't quick to destroy it. It's just the 24 hour policy I have for everyone, regardless of who they are, and I gave you a 10 hour warning, which I knew you'd respond to in time. I would have said the exact same thing to everyone else, and I have said it to some when they operated as president. Had you not responded, and had no one made a candidate for your party, I would have probably dissolved it, since it is somewhere between a 3rd party and a major party, and not likely to get to Round 2 until the West fills out. Anyway, if you want to make a character, please do so before the time expires. I will continue to give my 24 hour warnings when the time ticks down to about 10 hours or less of time remaining. 

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Senator Lewis Barker of California Expands his Platform, Targetting Issues that appeal to all the American People, while keeping to his core. His VP is Harper Inning of Illinois

 

National Strength:

 

America has been in a position of great potential, yet no President has tried to expand from the everyday duties of being President to truly make our country expand its unity, economy, and global influence. The fact that we were once number three in the world, and have shrunk behind Russia, is something that needs to be addressed. We need a President in office that is not afraid to do things that are unconventional, things that are not usually thought about in everyday life, things that will leap this country in global ranking. We have all of this potential, but how often is it tapped? We face binary issues everyday, but we continue this loop.

 

As President, I will go outside the box, proposing policies that will benefit this nation that both the Liberals and Conservatives can support. We have been seen as the Party of Great Compromise, so shouldn't we be given credit for this? Let us lead forward the Nation to great advances, working with both parties to make America truly a place where people will be proud to call home.

 

Military Strength: 

 

As I said in my last campaign, I support lowering our ground troops by a small amount, but keeping our navy at the same level. Technology will keep on growing throughout every war that is declared, and I firmly believe that at this time, we do not need to have such an enormous ground army. I firmly believe that what we should focus on instead is building a reserve army, one that does not have to commit to anything except in times of invasion. Many men across the United States would love to represent their country, but don't want to go overseas. That is why a reserves system would be both cheaper and more efficient; these men would want to fight.

 

Foreign Affairs:

 

Cooling relations with Europe is great, but the true focus of our affairs should be growing the relations of the countries to our South and West. If we want to combat the growth of Europe, we need to create and build friends in our sphere of influence that will be ready to rally against European influence.

 

Military: 

 

We support the invasions of Cuba and Hawaii, as they follow a direct path for our influence to grow within our hemisphere. If we continue to grow our lands and areas of influence, our power will be the largest in our realm, a power that nobody would dare tread on. This is what is needed for a secure America; power that will secure American interests for decades to come.

 

Economy:

 

To continue to stabilize our economy, we need to think outside of the box. We need to build war industries to supply both our troops and supply foreign troops with materials. Growing our domestic arms industry will lead to a growing economy for us, and an influence on who wins abroad. It's a win win for the American People.

 

We should also call out the writers of the recent nationalization bill for screwing over miners all across the United States. They presented a bill, using propaganda that the context of the bill would be to give national guidance to these industries, yet the Liberal courts upheld the taking over of such industries. This is a great abuse of the American spirit, an abuse that I will not tolerate in office. Legislation should be clear and bold, and not abused by the judicial system, a system built on honesty and fairness.

 

We should also remove ourselves from having a debt once the budget is stabilized, because having a debt means that nations abroad can hold us responsible for withholding their money. We should not be held responsible for this, and should pay off our debts as soon as possible.

 

Trade:

 

We need to form actual trade relations with the nations to our South and West; we can not prosper unless we make solid agreements with these countries. Just saying we want to trade with these countries accomplishes nothing.

 

America is home to so many private industries, so why let the Government's relation with other countries ruin our company's relations? Our companies should not be hindered because of something our Government did. We should work with our business leaders to expand their trade back into Europe, but using their own name, not the name of the United States, as justification.

 

Budget: 

 

Balanced budgets are what keep us out of debt, but only when we have no debt. We need to pay off the debt, and then continue having a balanced budget. Debt should be a safety net, not a constant tool to use extra money. It will one day stab us in the back to abuse this feature of the economy.

 

Social Harmony: 

 

The major weakness of this President is that he has not been honest and direct to the American People, instead resorting to the type of politics that doomed the former Liberty Party. Don't you notice that every party that uses the word "Liberty" or "Liberal" tends to screw over the American People?

 

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TREAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS IMPORTANT AS YOU DO YOUR OFFICE!

 

Your office is a direct result of the People, yet every effort you made was done behind closed doors. 

 

Don't get me started on how you screwed over the members of my Party in the legislature...

 

Immigration:

 

We need to utilize the American Dream efficiently so that we can increase immigration while also decreases the negative side effects of immigration. I have not seen a comprehensive immigration plan from anybody, other than changing the number of immigrants that can come to this country.

 

We need a President that will implement strong policies that will withstand time, not ones that are completely reactionary to what the current date is.

 

Mood of the People: 

 

I offer the most honest and genuine choice for President. You all know our history, we have not made decisions meant to hurt any American. We don't stand for radical change leftward or rightward; instead we focus on change that works with both sides to commit one goal: A goal to make America strong and to unite the People.

 

Popularity: 

 

It is time to branch out of the West, and it is time to challenge the establishment so that honest and fair policies can once again rule our Nation.

 

Party Power:

 

If the People hear my voice, it is time to elect Representatives and Senators that have a vision for American growth, and won't be caught up in filthy politics.

 

 

 

 

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Waiting to see if @CalebsParadox or @WVProgressive plan on making any candidates. If they decline to do so, then I can calculate this new election. 

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6 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Waiting to see if @CalebsParadox or @WVProgressive plan on making any candidates. If they decline to do so, then I can calculate this new election. 

I don't plan on making a candidate, but hanks for asking.

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