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37 minutes ago, vcczar said:

@CalebsParadox does this mean that Bunt will endorse the Republican candidate? Will the fusion ticket be called the Liberal Party, or will it somehow just fuse both your names for this election?

I thought the Liberal Republicans could work but whatever other people think

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33 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

I thought the Liberal Republicans could work but whatever other people think

It's up to @CalebsParadox or @WVProgressive if that is suitable. Perhaps it can be shortened to Liberal Party if the party does well. 

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5 minutes ago, vcczar said:

It's up to @CalebsParadox or @WVProgressive if that is suitable. Perhaps it can be shortened to Liberal Party if the party does well. 

My thoughts exactly.

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48 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

I thought the Liberal Republicans could work but whatever other people think

I like it and also think Liberal Party is nice too.

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30 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

My thoughts exactly.

 

16 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

I like it and also think Liberal Party is nice too.

Just need to confirm that @CalebsParadox is endorsing @Hestia11's character. And whether or not he will except the fusion name as Liberal Republican. 

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2 hours ago, vcczar said:

 

Just need to confirm that @CalebsParadox is endorsing @Hestia11's character. And whether or not he will except the fusion name as Liberal Republican. 

I'm endorsing, yes. And Liberal Party is preferable. 

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OOC: Okay I'll start calculating the election, but might not post it until tomorrow. 

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1888 Election

The New Republicans and Liberty Party fuse to create the Liberal Party to combat the resurgent Conservative Party. The American Progress Party maintains being the party of Western interests. Considering the depression and the breakdown of relations with Europe, this election is a toss up. 

General Election Round 1

(Liberal) 177 EV 45% PV (AR, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, VA, TN, IN, WI, MI, NY, CT, NH, VT, ME)

(Con) 170 EV 40% PV (TX, LA, FL, IL, IA, KY, PA, NJ, RI, MA, MD, DE, WV, OH)

(Pro) 66 EV 15% PV (The rest, including new states ND, SD, MT, WA)

[Nothing terribly unexpected here. NY, a toss up, was a huge gain for the Liberals, which puts them at an advantage in round 2 (Parties are more likely to retain states that they won in round 1).]

General Election Round 2

(Lib) 213 EVs 51% PV (Keeps all their states. Gains ND, SD, NV, KS, NE, CO, MN)

(Con)  200 EVs 49% PV (Keeps all their states. Gains CA, WA, OR, MO

[The biggest shocker is that not a single state flipped from round 1 to round 2. Conservatives were able to win over some Western states after having eased the debt for farmers, but the Liberal Party's lack of commitment to a Gold Standard was equally appealing. MN was an easy gain for Liberals and Missouri for Conservatives. CA, WA, OR were toss ups since they relied more on seatrade, and were more business oriented. Conservatives won each of these. Overall, Liberals won by retaining NY in round 2.]

Congress after the election

Liberal Senators 45%; US Reps 45%

Conservative Senators 35%; US Reps 40%

American Progress Senators 20%; US Reps 15%

[Conservatives made the most gains in the last 4 years. The creation of the Liberal Party out of the Republican and Liberty Party prevented the Conservatives from being the majority party. American Progress will be the swing party in legislative decisions.]

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President Carpenter (C-NY) accepts the results and retires from politics, he wishes the President-Elect well and hopes that the Progressives and Conservatives will be able to halt too much of a reversal of the progress made domestically and are able to keep together the Small Government framework which was set to end the depression.

Senator John Rodgers (C-TX) emerges as his protege

Conservative Dave Vosburg elected Mayor of Frankfurt, Kentucky 

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Senator Randolph Yedver (DC-WV) dead in Charleston, West Virginia home. For years he had requested he appear on the ballot as a Democratic-Conservative to remain loyal to the dissolved party he helped found, with him dies his party.

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@vcczar I lack the ticket names.

Con was Carpenter/McEnroe.

Progress was Barker/Rothschild and

Liberal (I decided for pink party color, like the real life Liberal Republicans 1872 if it is okay.) surely had Atkinson on the ticket, but is he President-elect or VP-elect? Did Former VP Bunt join the fusion ticket?

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Pres.-Elect Atkinson celebrates the results in his Columbus home. He thanks his supporters, and everyone who made this bid possible. He also thanks the President for his years of service. He pledges to go to work immediately for the American people.

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Events/Decisions for Mar 1889-Mar 1893 @Hestia11

1. Conservative Legislation

Your advisers brief you on the domestic changes of the Conservatives. Conservatives undid many policies of the old Liberty Party, some which the new Liberal party members oppose. No doubt, we can secretly say that some of the policies might ease us out of this neverending Depression, however. In order to afford naval bases and allow tax cuts to citizens, there were major cuts to infrastructure and to government upkeep, which shrunk the size of government. We would probably face backlash if we removed the cuts during the Depression, but we could shift where the cuts come from. The military budget is huge. However, with Europe at war (technically the German alliance declared war on us), the war and defense hawks will fight against it, even though I doubt we'd be invaded unless we scrap an army completely. Doing so, you'll lose the military vote, but that might not be so important for our party. The only other domestic policy which would be popular to our voter base for you to reverse would be the Conservative denationalization policy. Brooke had nationalized several industries. Currently, only the railroads, shipping industry, and academic realms are nationalized. We could return to nationalizing industries, so we can force social reform, but we will definitely lose the vote among bankers, finance, big business, and some small business voters. Although, most of these are already with the Conservatives. 

2. Relations with Europe

Pres. Carpenter has left us in a bad place with Europe. We basically betrayed an alliance with Germany, Russia, Turkey, Austria, Spain and others, and they have declared war in response to his actions. Meanwhile, Great Britain's alliance, which includes France, Netherlands, Italy, Portugal, and others, does not trust us as we had been in alliance against them and then betrayed our last ally. Regardless, we need to seek peace and somehow repair this damage, if possible. Not a single European nation will trade with us, except landlocked Switzerland. 

3. Free Trade conferences

Pres. Carpenter agreed to begin Free Trade Conferences in various regions of the non-European world. Do you wish to continue with this? If so, what three regions outside of Europe will you pick? Which countries or cities do you propose having these Conferences? Will you go personally? If so, note that each one will take you out of the country for a month to two months, depending on the region. 

4. Civil War pensions (and who gets them) increase 

The Civil War veterans are aging fast. They demand an increase in pensions, and some are asking for pensions they've never received. Additionally, former Confederates, now citizens once again, want the US government to pay them pensions! Regardless, we need a means to pay for this upkeep. We can't increase the tariffs any higher than we already have. Raising taxes is strongly discouraged until the depression is over. We could cut funding or take a loan, but this would throw us further into debt. 

5. Labor (wages) and workers strikes

Workers have been striking in the cities. While the depression is once again showing signs of ending, it is still here. Currently, big businesses are beginning to make money, but the workers are not. Factory workers especially are calling for wage increases, 8 hour work weeks, and a ban on child labor. Currently there is only a child labor ban for mining. 

6. Monopolies from denationalization

Many of the recent denationalized industries, especially regarding factories, coal, steel, are showing signs of monopolies (trusts). They are discouraging competition. Without the need to compete, these businesses see no reason to offer any sort of benefits, pay raises, etc. for workers. 

7. National parks and wildlife. 

The cities and population are growing, and some are calling for the protection of more parkland. Conservation is high. How about nationalizing parkland to protect it from being torn down for settlement. Additionally, naturalists are reporting on the disappearance of all sorts of birds, mammals, fish, insects, and other wildlife. These parks could be used to help preserve these species. Naturally, no hunting or collecting would be allowed in these parks. The downside is that we couldn't collect taxes on these large chunks of land which could house a small town. 

8. Refugees

The War in Europe is turning bloody. The German Alliance has overrun France and Italy. Napoleon III has been overthrown and his passive son, Napoleon IV, has been installed as a German puppet. French and Italian refugees, fearing the Germans, are flooding to our country. Our current immigration law allows only 25,000 people of any one group to arrive in our country. We've already exceeded the 25,000. Yet, thousands remain in our ports. We haven't the jobs for any of these people, who are likely to be reduced to peddling and begging. I'd wager 80% of these are unskilled. The skilled are mostly artisans. They talk of their desperation and of Germans ransacking their homes. To put it in perspective, about 50,000 of each group have found refuge in Mexico, where the economy is better, thanks to healthier relations with Europe. 

9. Indian Wars

Indian tribes have become resurgent in the territories and in the new states of ND, SD, MT, and WA. They oppose the statehood and have tried to reduce the numbers of citizens, thinking it will revert back to a territory if they kill enough Americans, according to one of our generals. Currently, only Florida recognizes Indians (Seminoles) as US Citizens. However, we can't cater to people killing our citizens. They have killed 50 Americans, but in retaliation our militia and armed citizens have killed 450 Indians in response. 

10. Affirmative Action for Whites in the South

While most of the former Confederates that have returned live in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and the Midwest, there are still many descendants of them in the South. They argue that the Black majority is refusing to hire them on account of the color of their skin. They former Confederates and their son are calling for an "Affirmative Action" to require businesses and schools not to discriminate on account of skin color. The political establishment of the South argues against the claim of discrimination and believes that Whites just want to take over the South so they can enslave Blacks again. 

11. National University 

While the education realm (minus religious schools) are nationalized, some in the Liberal Party are calling for a National University in DC, which will set the standard for all Universities in the country. The hope is that it will compete and surpass the level and reputation of even Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, and the universities in France, Italy, and Germany. We would need to figure out a way to afford this without cutting taxes or raising the tariff. 

12. Overthrow Queen of Hawaii

We have begun constructing naval bases in Panama and Hawaii. However, the Queen of Hawaii has reneged on her promise to allow a naval base in exchange for our base protecting her kingdom. Our chief admiral is recommending overthrowing the Queen and taking Hawaii as a territory. They are so primitive that the war would be over in a month. Meanwhile, Europe is too distracted killing each other to intervene. Great Britain and France will likely condemn such actions, however, but they can't do anything about it. We have not had a problem with Panama. 

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1. Conservative Legislation

Your advisers brief you on the domestic changes of the Conservatives. Conservatives undid many policies of the old Liberty Party, some which the new Liberal party members oppose. No doubt, we can secretly say that some of the policies might ease us out of this neverending Depression, however. In order to afford naval bases and allow tax cuts to citizens, there were major cuts to infrastructure and to government upkeep, which shrunk the size of government. We would probably face backlash if we removed the cuts during the Depression, but we could shift where the cutscome from. The military budget is huge. However, with Europe at war (technically the German alliance declared war on us), the war and defense hawks will fight against it, even though I doubt we'd be invaded unless we scrap an army completely. Doing so, you'll lose the military vote, but that might not be so important for our party. The only other domestic policy which would be popular to our voter base for you to reverse would be the Conservative denationalization policy. Brooke had nationalized several industries. Currently, only the railroads, shipping industry, and academic realms are nationalized. We could return to nationalizing industries, so we can force social reform, but we will definitely lose the vote among bankers, finance, big business, and some small business voters. Although, most of these are already with the Conservatives. 

Begin nationalizing some of the industries but not everything. Consult former Liberty and Republican members about which ones to nationalize. Decrease the military budget slightly.

2. Relations with Europe

Pres. Carpenter has left us in a bad place with Europe. We basically betrayed an alliance withGermany, Russia, Turkey, Austria, Spain and others, and they have declared war in response to his actions. Meanwhile, Great Britain's alliance, which includes France, Netherlands,Italy, Portugal, and others, does not trust us as we had been in alliance against them and then betrayed our last ally. Regardless, we need to seek peace and somehow repair this damage, if possible. Not a single European nation will trade with us, except landlocked Switzerland.  

The President was rather shortsighted in his vision of foreign policy. Send the bulk of our diplomats to three countries- France, Britain, and Mexico. Attempt to negotiate better terms and prepare an invasion of Spanish Cuba to show the Germans we mean business.

3. Free Trade conferences

Pres. Carpenter agreed to begin Free Trade Conferences in various regions of the non-European world. Do you wish to continue with this? If so, what three regions outside of Europe will you pick? Which countries or cities do you propose having these Conferences? Will you go personally? If so, note that each one will take you out of the country for a month to twomonths, depending on the region. 

It seems unwise for me to go out of the country so soon into my term. Send our new Secretary of State instead. Negotiate with South America, East Asia and Central America. Offer to host the South American one in NYC.

4. Civil War pensions (and who gets them) increase 

The Civil War veterans are aging fast. They demand an increase in pensions, and some are asking for pensions they've never received. Additionally, former Confederates, now citizens once again, want the US government to pay them pensions! Regardless, we need a means to pay for this upkeep. We can't increase the tariffs any higher than we already have. Raising taxes is strongly discouraged until the depression is over. We could cut funding or take a loan, but this would throw us further into debt. 

The obvious first step is only people who fought for the Union can get the pension. Pensions can be cut to try and reach all veterans of the Union. Tell them this is a temporary step while we work to increase the budget.

5. Labor (wages) and workers strikes

Workers have been striking in the cities. While the depression is once again showing signs of ending, it is still here. Currently, big businesses are beginning to make money, but the workers are not. Factory workers especially are calling for wage increases, 8 hour work weeks, and a ban on child labor. Currently there is only a child labor ban for mining. 

We will ban child labor as it was a staple of the former Republicans. We support an increase in the work week and will look into wage increases.

6. Monopolies from denationalization

Many of the recent denationalized industries, especially regarding factories, coal, steel, are showing signs of monopolies (trusts). They are discouraging competition. Without the need to compete, these businesses see no reason to offer any sort of benefits, pay raises, etc. for workers. 

Break up the monopolies by any way possible. This always was the risk of denationalizing these businesses. Encourage competition by offering grants.

7. National parks and wildlife. 

 The cities and population are growing, and some are calling for the protection of more parkland. Conservation is high. How about nationalizing parkland to protect it from being torn down for settlement. Additionally, naturalists are reporting on the disappearance of all sorts of birds, mammals, fish, insects, and other wildlife. These parks could be used to help preserve these species. Naturally, no hunting or collecting would be allowed in these parks. The downside is that we couldn't collect taxes on these large chunks of land which could house a small town. 

These stories are disheartening. We must at least do something on this front! Form a task group to look at a few different places to do this. We can start on plans in this term and hopefully begin them in the next.

8. Refugees

The War in Europe is turning bloody. The German Alliance has overrun France and Italy. Napoleon III has been overthrown and his passive son, Napoleon IV, has been installed as a German puppet. French and Italian refugees, fearing the Germans, are flooding to our country. Our current immigration law allows only 25,000 people of any one group to arrive in our country. We've already exceeded the 25,000. Yet, thousands remain in our ports. We haven't the jobs for any of these people, who are likely to be reduced to peddling and begging. I'dwager 80% of these are unskilled. The skilled are mostly artisans. They talk of their desperation and of Germans ransacking their homes. To put it in perspective, about 50,000 of each group have found refuge in Mexico, where the economy is better, thanks to healthier relations with Europe. 

We have always been the party of immigration. We will use our power in Congress to usher through a bill that would let 55k refugees from each nationality into the United States.

9. Indian Wars

Indian tribes have become resurgent in the territories and in the new states of ND, SD, MT, and WA. They oppose the statehood and have tried to reduce the numbers of citizens, thinking it will revert back to a territory if they kill enough Americans, according to one of our generals. Currently, only Florida recognizes Indians (Seminoles) as US Citizens. However, we can't cater to people killing our citizens. They have killed 50 Americans, but in retaliation our militia and armed citizens have killed 450 Indians in response. 

This really cannot be allowed to pass. We’ll leave it up to the states whether or not to allow them as citizens, but the federal government will look at each group individually. If they are peaceful, we are more willing.

 10. Affirmative Action for Whites in the South

 While most of the former Confederates that have returned live in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and the Midwest, there are still many descendants of them in the South. They argue that the Black majority is refusing to hire them on account of the color of their skin. They former Confederates and their son are calling for an "Affirmative Action" to require businesses and schools not to discriminate on account of skin color. The political establishment of the South argues against the claim of discrimination and believes that Whites just want to take over the South so they can enslave Blacks again. 

We are hesitant to say that there is any discrimination as yet this far. It’s only been like a year since they could vote. Liberal party figures wouldn’t stand for our administration to label it discrimination as it is.

11. National University 

While the education realm (minus religious schools) are nationalized, some in the Liberal Party are calling for a National University in DC, which will set the standard for all Universities in the country. The hope is that it will compete and surpass the level and reputation of even Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, and the universities in France, Italy, and Germany. We would need to figure out a way to afford this without cutting taxes or raising the tariff. 

Ask Congress to consider a national University, and ask if money can be taken out of either infrastructure or the military budget.

12. Overthrow Queen of Hawaii

We have begun constructing naval bases in Panama and Hawaii. However, the Queen of Hawaii has reneged on her promise to allow a naval base in exchange for our base protecting her kingdom. Our chief admiral is recommending overthrowing the Queen and taking Hawaii as a territory. They are so primitive that the war would be over in a month. Meanwhile, Europe is too distracted killing each other to intervene. Great Britain and France will likely condemn such actions, however, but they can't do anything about it. We have not had a problem with Panama. 

Thank the Panamanians for their hospitality’ and make them a good example of what can follow. Warn the Queen of Hawaii of the consequences of her actions if no base is allowed.
 

@vcczar

 

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7 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

1. Conservative Legislation

Your advisers brief you on the domestic changes of the Conservatives. Conservatives undid many policies of the old Liberty Party, some which the new Liberal party members oppose. No doubt, we can secretly say that some of the policies might ease us out of this neverending Depression, however. In order to afford naval bases and allow tax cuts to citizens, there were major cuts to infrastructure and to government upkeep, which shrunk the size of government. We would probably face backlash if we removed the cuts during the Depression, but we could shift where the cutscome from. The military budget is huge. However, with Europe at war (technically the German alliance declared war on us), the war and defense hawks will fight against it, even though I doubt we'd be invaded unless we scrap an army completely. Doing so, you'll lose the military vote, but that might not be so important for our party. The only other domestic policy which would be popular to our voter base for you to reverse would be the Conservative denationalization policy. Brooke had nationalized several industries. Currently, only the railroads, shipping industry, and academic realms are nationalized. We could return to nationalizing industries, so we can force social reform, but we will definitely lose the vote among bankers, finance, big business, and some small business voters. Although, most of these are already with the Conservatives. 

Begin nationalizing some of the industries but not everything. Consult former Liberty and Republican members about which ones to nationalize. Decrease the military budget slightly.

2. Relations with Europe

Pres. Carpenter has left us in a bad place with Europe. We basically betrayed an alliance withGermany, Russia, Turkey, Austria, Spain and others, and they have declared war in response to his actions. Meanwhile, Great Britain's alliance, which includes France, Netherlands,Italy, Portugal, and others, does not trust us as we had been in alliance against them and then betrayed our last ally. Regardless, we need to seek peace and somehow repair this damage, if possible. Not a single European nation will trade with us, except landlocked Switzerland.  

The President was rather shortsighted in his vision of foreign policy. Send the bulk of our diplomats to three countries- France, Britain, and Mexico. Attempt to negotiate better terms and prepare an invasion of Spanish Cuba to show the Germans we mean business.

3. Free Trade conferences

Pres. Carpenter agreed to begin Free Trade Conferences in various regions of the non-European world. Do you wish to continue with this? If so, what three regions outside of Europe will you pick? Which countries or cities do you propose having these Conferences? Will you go personally? If so, note that each one will take you out of the country for a month to twomonths, depending on the region. 

It seems unwise for me to go out of the country so soon into my term. Send our new Secretary of State instead. Negotiate with South America, East Asia and Central America. Offer to host the South American one in NYC.

4. Civil War pensions (and who gets them) increase 

The Civil War veterans are aging fast. They demand an increase in pensions, and some are asking for pensions they've never received. Additionally, former Confederates, now citizens once again, want the US government to pay them pensions! Regardless, we need a means to pay for this upkeep. We can't increase the tariffs any higher than we already have. Raising taxes is strongly discouraged until the depression is over. We could cut funding or take a loan, but this would throw us further into debt. 

The obvious first step is only people who fought for the Union can get the pension. Pensions can be cut to try and reach all veterans of the Union. Tell them this is a temporary step while we work to increase the budget.

5. Labor (wages) and workers strikes

Workers have been striking in the cities. While the depression is once again showing signs of ending, it is still here. Currently, big businesses are beginning to make money, but the workers are not. Factory workers especially are calling for wage increases, 8 hour work weeks, and a ban on child labor. Currently there is only a child labor ban for mining. 

We will ban child labor as it was a staple of the former Republicans. We support an increase in the work week and will look into wage increases.

6. Monopolies from denationalization

Many of the recent denationalized industries, especially regarding factories, coal, steel, are showing signs of monopolies (trusts). They are discouraging competition. Without the need to compete, these businesses see no reason to offer any sort of benefits, pay raises, etc. for workers. 

Break up the monopolies by any way possible. This always was the risk of denationalizing these businesses. Encourage competition by offering grants.

7. National parks and wildlife. 

 The cities and population are growing, and some are calling for the protection of more parkland. Conservation is high. How about nationalizing parkland to protect it from being torn down for settlement. Additionally, naturalists are reporting on the disappearance of all sorts of birds, mammals, fish, insects, and other wildlife. These parks could be used to help preserve these species. Naturally, no hunting or collecting would be allowed in these parks. The downside is that we couldn't collect taxes on these large chunks of land which could house a small town. 

These stories are disheartening. We must at least do something on this front! Form a task group to look at a few different places to do this. We can start on plans in this term and hopefully begin them in the next.

8. Refugees

The War in Europe is turning bloody. The German Alliance has overrun France and Italy. Napoleon III has been overthrown and his passive son, Napoleon IV, has been installed as a German puppet. French and Italian refugees, fearing the Germans, are flooding to our country. Our current immigration law allows only 25,000 people of any one group to arrive in our country. We've already exceeded the 25,000. Yet, thousands remain in our ports. We haven't the jobs for any of these people, who are likely to be reduced to peddling and begging. I'dwager 80% of these are unskilled. The skilled are mostly artisans. They talk of their desperation and of Germans ransacking their homes. To put it in perspective, about 50,000 of each group have found refuge in Mexico, where the economy is better, thanks to healthier relations with Europe. 

We have always been the party of immigration. We will use our power in Congress to usher through a bill that would let 55k refugees from each nationality into the United States.

9. Indian Wars

Indian tribes have become resurgent in the territories and in the new states of ND, SD, MT, and WA. They oppose the statehood and have tried to reduce the numbers of citizens, thinking it will revert back to a territory if they kill enough Americans, according to one of our generals. Currently, only Florida recognizes Indians (Seminoles) as US Citizens. However, we can't cater to people killing our citizens. They have killed 50 Americans, but in retaliation our militia and armed citizens have killed 450 Indians in response. 

This really cannot be allowed to pass. We’ll leave it up to the states whether or not to allow them as citizens, but the federal government will look at each group individually. If they are peaceful, we are more willing.

 10. Affirmative Action for Whites in the South

 While most of the former Confederates that have returned live in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and the Midwest, there are still many descendants of them in the South. They argue that the Black majority is refusing to hire them on account of the color of their skin. They former Confederates and their son are calling for an "Affirmative Action" to require businesses and schools not to discriminate on account of skin color. The political establishment of the South argues against the claim of discrimination and believes that Whites just want to take over the South so they can enslave Blacks again. 

We are hesitant to say that there is any discrimination as yet this far. It’s only been like a year since they could vote. Liberal party figures wouldn’t stand for our administration to label it discrimination as it is.

11. National University 

While the education realm (minus religious schools) are nationalized, some in the Liberal Party are calling for a National University in DC, which will set the standard for all Universities in the country. The hope is that it will compete and surpass the level and reputation of even Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, and the universities in France, Italy, and Germany. We would need to figure out a way to afford this without cutting taxes or raising the tariff. 

Ask Congress to consider a national University, and ask if money can be taken out of either infrastructure or the military budget.

12. Overthrow Queen of Hawaii

We have begun constructing naval bases in Panama and Hawaii. However, the Queen of Hawaii has reneged on her promise to allow a naval base in exchange for our base protecting her kingdom. Our chief admiral is recommending overthrowing the Queen and taking Hawaii as a territory. They are so primitive that the war would be over in a month. Meanwhile, Europe is too distracted killing each other to intervene. Great Britain and France will likely condemn such actions, however, but they can't do anything about it. We have not had a problem with Panama. 

Thank the Panamanians for their hospitality’ and make them a good example of what can follow. Warn the Queen of Hawaii of the consequences of her actions if no base is allowed.
 

@vcczar

 

Tagging the leaders of the other parties to see if they support the stances of the president in these areas, this will help me determine what passes and what fails. @Kingthero and @Reagan04 who I assume are party leaders. 

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6 hours ago, vcczar said:

Tagging the leaders of the other parties to see if they support the stances of the president in these areas, this will help me determine what passes and what fails. @Kingthero and @Reagan04 who I assume are party leaders. 

Like always the Conservative Party supports the Liberals on Foreign Policy, we will support an invasion of Cuba. We will never allow any more nationalization and will constantly continue to hammer at smaller government. We will only support a full child labor ban in exchange for denationalization of everything, though we could back off on railroads. Denationalization will be our primary objective as we are out of power, well support the rest of their agenda in an exchange for denationalization of shipping and academia. We also criticisize what we view to be a weak response to both Indians and Hawaiians. We are of course going to fight Immigration and again, only for full-scale denatuonalization will we relent on that. We hope Progressives recognize the harm this could do to farmers and the economy and will stand with us to block further nationalization and to push denatuonalization.

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6 hours ago, vcczar said:

Tagging the leaders of the other parties to see if they support the stances of the president in these areas, this will help me determine what passes and what fails. @Kingthero and @Reagan04 who I assume are party leaders. 

Barker releases a statement:

 

The APP refuses to nationalize anymore industries, citing scares that our Western industries would be negatively affected at the hands of Eastern politicians.

 

We do support an invasion of Cuba, as it will increase our dominance in our sphere of influence.

 

We support advancing trade with non-european nations.

 

We abstain on the pension issue until clear facts are provided as plans forward.

 

We refuse to touch labor things until a law that will be fair to all of America is passed. Children help families run farms all across, and a complete child labor ban is completely wrong. Perhaps we should focus on safety, and not actual banning of children working.

 

We abstain on the monopoly issue, however we do not approve of single companies owning an entire industry.

 

Conservation is a key issue of our party, and we will agree to a wide range of conservation. Perhaps we should protect Yosemite?

 

We approve of refugees as long as they are appropriately managed through a cooperation between the Federal and State governments.

 

Fight or Peace on the Indian Issue; the People we represent deal with the Indians the most, and we agree that if the Indians desire peace, we shall seek it, but if they desire bloodshed, we shall end them.

 

ALL DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG! ONE RACE SHALL HAVE NO BENEFITS OVER ANOTHER!

 

Education is an issue we will abstain on.

 

If the Queen does not comply, than we shall use our strength to further our influence in the Pacific.

 

 

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The President slams Conservatives for their obstruction and one-policy focus. He reminds them of what was passed with our  help in their term that wouldn’t in ours. He thanks the Progress for their willingness to support some policies.

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2 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

The President slams Conservatives for their obstruction and one-policy focus. He reminds them of what was passed with our  help in their term that wouldn’t in ours. He thanks the Progress for their willingness to support some policies.

No, that's not what we said. We said instead of trying to push a Conservative agenda, we will work with you in exchange for having our influence heard on this one particular key area, this is actually a good deal for you. We agree with the Liberals on Foreign Policy so we have no qualms there and we will absolutely vote for an invasion of Cuba, we also support sending diplomats to France Britain and Mexico as President Carpenter had begun to do the same thing. Obviously the baby of President Carpenter in regards to trade, the American Conferences, have our support, however we begin to disagree on Economic, Environmental, and Domestic Affairs, we also preferred a more aggressive stance on Hawaii. As such,we are willing to vote for some of the measures you are pushing for Labor concerns like a ban on child labor in all but Farming in exchange for the denationalization of the shipping industry and no more nationalization. We will also support Environmental law for denationalizing Education. That's really what we are saying.

OOC: Sorry if it was confusing, I was tired when I wrote that and I was on my phone, might not have come out right.

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19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Begin nationalizing some of the industries but not everything. Consult former Liberty and Republican members about which ones to nationalize. Decrease the military budget slightly.

A compromise bill is passed. Progress voters support some more nationalization in exchange for agriculture being free of nationalization or a child labor ban. 

1. Railroads, shipping, mining, oil, factory production, education (excluding church-run schools) will all be nationalized. 

2. Child labor will be banned in all these nationalized areas. 

3. An 8 hour work day will passed only for women and children. 

4. Wages will be set by a Federal Commission

5. Congress will take no position on Unions for professions outside of the nationalized realm. 

6. The government will be authorized to use force in the event of any strikes, whether it is a nationalized profession or otherwise. 

This bill is on your desk. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

The President was rather shortsighted in his vision of foreign policy. Send the bulk of our diplomats to three countries- France, Britain, and Mexico. Attempt to negotiate better terms and prepare an invasion of Spanish Cuba to show the Germans we mean business.

You need to be more specific on what you mean "negotiate better terms." Diplomats have arrived to meet British diplomats in Canada, and in Mexico, and in France. They await further orders. On the up side, both Mexico and Canada have pulled their troops from the border, as they no longer see us as a threat, and because they need them in Europe. The war is currently going in the German Alliance's favor. Germans are passing through their ally Spain to help invade Portugal. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

It seems unwise for me to go out of the country so soon into my term. Send our new Secretary of State instead. Negotiate with South America, East Asia and Central America. Offer to host the South American one in NYC.

Free Trade Agreements have been made with several countries in these regions. The opening of trade in several new countries may inevitably help our economy. 

19 hours ago, vcczar said:

The obvious first step is only people who fought for the Union can get the pension. Pensions can be cut to try and reach all veterans of the Union. Tell them this is a temporary step while we work to increase the budget.

Congress barely passes a Pension bill, cutting the individual amount for each veteran so as to cover more veterans. The US veterans that already has pensions are obviously upset, but those that never had pensions are glad they are receiving them. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

These stories are disheartening. We must at least do something on this front! Form a task group to look at a few different places to do this. We can start on plans in this term and hopefully begin them in the next.

Republicans and Progress congress persons sponsor a bill to protect 7 areas for conservation. The bill is on your desk. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

This really cannot be allowed to pass. We’ll leave it up to the states whether or not to allow them as citizens, but the federal government will look at each group individually. If they are peaceful, we are more willing.

This response upsets Westerners and rallies Progress members and Conservative members to unite against these tribes in Congress. The pass a non-binding vote to advise the president to use military force to drive these Natives into Indian Territory. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Ask Congress to consider a national University, and ask if money can be taken out of either infrastructure or the military budget.

Citing the current economic situation and the desire to invade Cuba, this bill is blocked, despite initially having enough votes. 

19 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Thank the Panamanians for their hospitality’ and make them a good example of what can follow. Warn the Queen of Hawaii of the consequences of her actions if no base is allowed.

The Opposition parties deem the president too soft in this area, and make a non-binding vote in favor of the president using force in Hawaii to overthrow the Queen. 

In other news, the military embarks on an invasion of Cuba with the hope that holding the island will allow for a bargaining piece to maintain a base there. Alternatively, we could seek to win Independence for people living in Cuba, if we don't choose to annex it outright. 

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@vcczar I'm confused how a bill to nationalize that many industries passed as both the APP and Conservatives steadfastly opposed nationalization of ANY more industries, let alone a glut of them.

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7 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

@vcczar I'm confused how a bill to nationalize that many industries passed as both the APP and Conservatives steadfastly opposed nationalization of ANY more industries, let alone a glut of them.

The Liberal Party is the larger party and overwhelmingly for it. APP is for a lot of labor issues, but opposed child labor laws on agriculture. The industries that, excluding the railroads, are not as common in the West. So basically, enough APP voters opted to support it. The bill barely passed. 

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@Hestia11 has 13 hours to respond or his character dies in office. I'm off to bed. 

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