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Just now, NYrepublican said:

NY State laws says that they only have a duty to retreat if they feel it can be safely done which wouldn't apply in the case cited above.

Aren't most New York State laws vacuously and vaguely worded and highly up to interpretation (and the reason New York lawyers tend to so common and wealthy)?

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

Aren't most New York State laws vacuously and vaguely worded and highly up to interpretation (and the reason New York lawyers tend to so common and wealthy)?

Here's a summary from a law site

"New York Self Defense: The Castle Doctrine

New York is not a stand your ground state, but the state does follow a similar doctrine called the "castle doctrine," which allows individuals to use deadly force to defend their homes against intruders. The key distinction between stand your ground and the castle doctrine is that the castle doctrine designates this justification for people in their homes. The rationale is that your home is "your castle" or safe refuge, and that you should not have to run away from your home when defending it against invaders.

Duty to Retreat

What the stand your ground and castle doctrine have in common is that there is no duty to retreat. According to the duty to retreat principles, when an individual is under immediate threat of harm, they are required to retreat from the threat as much as possible. Only then, can the individual use force for self defense purposes; the use of deadly force is considered a last resort."

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2 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Here's a summary from a law site

"New York Self Defense: The Castle Doctrine

New York is not a stand your ground state, but the state does follow a similar doctrine called the "castle doctrine," which allows individuals to use deadly force to defend their homes against intruders. The key distinction between stand your ground and the castle doctrine is that the castle doctrine designates this justification for people in their homes. The rationale is that your home is "your castle" or safe refuge, and that you should not have to run away from your home when defending it against invaders.

Duty to Retreat

What the stand your ground and castle doctrine have in common is that there is no duty to retreat. According to the duty to retreat principles, when an individual is under immediate threat of harm, they are required to retreat from the threat as much as possible. Only then, can the individual use force for self defense purposes; the use of deadly force is considered a last resort."

Have any homeless people in NYC invoked the "untraditional home" ("hobo camp") precedent that I've heard has cropped up as legitimate in several New York cases in other areas to invoke this defense, out of curiosity?

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

Have any homeless people in NYC invoked the "untraditional home" ("hobo camp") precedent that I've heard has cropped up as legitimate in several New York cases in other areas to invoke this defense, out of curiosity?

I don't know.

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