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Fords third term

-Subsidized the Agriculture sector,something he was lacking in support from the past two terms.

-Continued colonization in Africa by fully colonizing Liberia,parts of Ethopia,and parts of Sub Sahara. Installing democracies in those parts with american ideals.

-Formed a gang of nations to help Germany fully get back on its feet quoted saying "Nations in destruction inevitably cause destruction to others, this is why we must rebuild for each other" (Nazi Germany is avoided,though Italy and Japan are almost inevitably going to be axis)

-Again a scandal free presidency

-Average approval 66%

-Fords fourth term (If he wins) he said will be his last.

-Socialist Party collapses after Debs death,back to a head to head party system. (2 parties) 

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1928

Ford/Ekern (I)(rep) vs Walsh/Smith (dem)---The highest pop vote victory ever.

 

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30 minutes ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

Fords third term

-Subsidized the Agriculture sector,something he was lacking in support from the past two terms.

-Continued colonization in Africa by fully colonizing Liberia,parts of Ethopia,and parts of Sub Sahara. Installing democracies in those parts with american ideals.

-Formed a gang of nations to help Germany fully get back on its feet quoted saying "Nations in destruction inevitably cause destruction to others, this is why we must rebuild for each other" (Nazi Germany is avoided,though Italy and Japan are almost inevitably going to be axis)

-Again a scandal free presidency

-Average approval 66%

-Fords fourth term (If he wins) he said will be his last.

-Socialist Party collapses after Debs death,back to a head to head party system. (2 parties) 

Wouldn't invading Ethiopia put them into military and diplomatic conflict with Fascist Italy?

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25 minutes ago, Patine said:

Wouldn't invading Ethiopia put them into military and diplomatic conflict with Fascist Italy?

I should have made it more clear,colonizing as in Ford purchased parts of Ethopia from yes,a Facist country (But remember the USA never came into WW1,so Italy has never done harm to us) It is about only 5% of the country. (This could provide a military advantage at a later date

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1 hour ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

I should have made it more clear,colonizing as in Ford purchased parts of Ethopia from yes,a Facist country (But remember the USA never came into WW1,so Italy has never done harm to us) It is about only 5% of the country. (This could provide a military advantage at a later date

1928 was before the Italian invasion (but when it was certainly planned and hooks were being extended by Mussolini in preparation). Italy (and Japan) were actually on the Allied side of WW1, and Mussolini was not yet in power during that war - ultimately, in wouldn't matter, who took whose side in WW1 or stayed neutral, as Mussolini's ambitions had little to do, in the end with WW1, except using dissatisfaction over "broken promises" at the Peace of Paris after Italy didn't gain all they felt they deserved from the partitioning of the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires as a propaganda point. Ethiopia, was one of the only remaining avenues of expansion remotely left to Italy at that point, and it wouldn't have been an issue they would have conceded without a bloody fight (and the Italian military back then wasn't a trifle, as they could troops and equipment to the Horn of Africa, just by geography faster than the U.S. could, and they also had all the military technological advances of the 1920's). As for buying land, in 1928, it was shortly before Mussolini's actual invasion (though, as I'd said, he'd staked it out), and Ethiopia was ruled by the antiquated feudal rule of Emperor Haile Selassie, and, because of it's strictly feudal landowning scheme, like Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, and the Channel Islands today with their strict land tenure systems, land was just not for sale by anyone to anyone under any terms - period.

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3 minutes ago, Patine said:

1928 was before the Italian invasion (but when it was certainly planned and hooks were being extended by Mussolini in preparation). Italy (and Japan) were actually on the Allied side of WW1, and Mussolini was not yet in power during that war - ultimately, in wouldn't matter, who took whose side in WW1 or stayed neutral, as Mussolini's ambitions had little to do, in the end with WW1, except using dissatisfaction over "broken promises" at the Peace of Paris after Italy didn't gain all they felt they deserved from the partitioning of the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires as a propaganda point. Ethiopia, was one of the only remaining avenues of expansion remotely left to Italy at that point, and it wouldn't have been an issue they would have conceded without a bloody fight (and the Italian military back then wasn't a trifle, as they could troops and equipment to the Horn of Africa, just by geography faster than the U.S. could, and they also had all the military technological advances of the 1920's). As for buying land, in 1928, it was shortly before Mussolini's actual invasion (though, as I'd said, he'd staked it out), and Ethiopia was ruled by the antiquated feudal rule of Emperor Haile Selassie, and, because of it's strictly feudal landowning scheme, like Fiji, Nauru, Tonga, and the Channel Islands today with their strict land tenure systems, land was just not for sale by anyone to anyone under any terms - period.

Forgive me ab the WW1 part,right as i submitted that i remembered,One of Fords greatest traits during his tenure is deal making with the good and bad,The land is kind of like Guantanamo Bay in the modern eyes,small piece of land with around 1000 civilians,though they have there own local gov.,he also has a military base there. It is almost as if Ford and The Italians Ethiopians,are like Dennis Rodman and Kim Jung Un,the world is just confused about it.

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2 minutes ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

Forgive me ab the WW1 part,right as i submitted that i remembered,One of Fords greatest traits during his tenure is deal making with the good and bad,The land is kind of like Guantanamo Bay in the modern eyes,small piece of land with around 1000 civilians,though they have there own local gov.,he also has a military base there. It is almost as if Ford and The Italians Ethiopians,are like Dennis Rodman and Kim Jung Un,the world is just confused about it.

Sorry, your grammar kind of got put into a blender there. Typing too fast?

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Fords fourth (but maybe not final?) term

-A week after the election Ford said he goes back on his word,after getting the result that he received the highest popular vote in history,he will be seeking a fifth term

-Ford Purchases a large part of Saharan Africa (About 50% the size of Egypt) and proceed to make the country "Sahara" as part of his colonization.

-Montana forms a militia after declaring Ford a Monarch (this was more of a terror like group) of around 1k men, approximately 200 sq miles of Northwest Montana succeeds from the Union,only lasting 3 weeks,after Ford finally issued military force they surrendered, around 76 men from the militia were killed. 

-Ford cracks down on the Mafia, having over 20 mob leaders executed,the execution part was not very popular.

-Progressives and Populists form a massive movement to try to remove Ford from office. 

-Rest of his fourth term was quiet

-Average approval 50%

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8 minutes ago, Patine said:

Sorry, your grammar kind of got put into a blender there. Typing too fast?

completely yes lol,I was plugging in info into PI right before and just kept going on with typing aha.

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1932

Ford/Dawes (I)(rep) vs Roosevelt/Garner (dem)---One of the closer elections recently---Note if Roosevelt won his state,he would have won the election.

 

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8 hours ago, Sami said:

What about the 1929 crisis?

Maybe that you explained how it did not happen in the story :P.

Simply the US never goes into depression,ford has built one of the strongest,invincible economies in the world.

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Fords Fifth term

-Ford WILL attempt to run for an unprecedented sixth term

-Continued colonization in Africa

-Completely avoided the depression,because of his previous policies and building of industry

-Helped the UK,Germany,and France get out of there economic downfalls 

-The USA has the largest military in the world,as Ford focused his spending on that this term,industry boomed as a result,even while the economy was already the strongest in the world.

-Raised taxes 3% across the board to help with spending

-Put Civil Rights  fully in place,illegal to discriminate against race/religion. (The south is still the south however,not as much so)

-Average approval 54%

-Did have a major scandal that involved using tax payers money to bail out banks before they collapsed,people were mad,but understood why he did at the same time.

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1936

Ford/Knox (I)(rep) vs Franklin D. Roosevelt/Garner (dem) ----FORD HAS LOST!----after 20 years in office,Ford just could not get his 6th victory. The popular charismatic New York governor has upset the sitting president,and will be the president for WW2

 

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Roosevelt's first term

-No new deal because of the Rep. Majority

-Reimposed workers rights for safety

-Raised Company tax by 15% this made it through because he said 75% would be for defense

-Largely increased Social Spending

-1939 WW2 begins with the Axis including Japan and Italy as two major powers and the Allies including the USA,Germany,UK,France and Spain(stays democratic)

-Fighting begins in Africa with US colonies and Italian 

-Average approval 44%

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1940

Lodge Jr/Wilkie (rep) vs Roosevelt/Wallace (I)(dem)--Youth and inexperience can hurt you

 

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Roosevelts second term

-In 1943 France,UK,and Germany invade Italy,Italy capitulates. In 1944 The Allies land invade Japan,the war ends and the Allies are the victor.-March 27 1944

-Booming economy

-Champions civil rights

-Reaches agreement with all nations to never create nuclear weapons,and all nations destroy them in 1943,Japan had none.

-On May 3,1944 2 months after the WW2 victory,Franklin D Roosevelt is assassinated by a Japanese Nationalist. 

-Average approval 67%

Wallace takes oath

-Wallace tries to raise taxes fails,and also trys to make a National Healthcare as UK is doing at the time and fails. 

-Average approval 35%

-Cordell Hull wins the Democratic nomination

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1944

Taft/Macarthur (rep) vs Hull/Bankhead (dem) ---This is known as the "win-win" election as both candidates had over 55% approval.-One of the biggest flips in year to year history,Tafts superior campaigning triumphs,even though early Hull was in the lead. 

 

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1 hour ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

Roosevelts second term

-In 1943 France,UK,and Germany invade Italy,Italy capitulates. In 1944 The Allies land invade Japan,the war ends and the Allies are the victor.-March 27 1944

-Booming economy

-Champions civil rights

-Reaches agreement with all nations to never create nuclear weapons,and all nations destroy them in 1943,Japan had none.

-On May 3,1944 2 months after the WW2 victory,Franklin D Roosevelt is assassinated by a Japanese Nationalist. 

-Average approval 67%

Wallace takes oath

-Wallace tries to raise taxes fails,and also trys to make a National Healthcare as UK is doing at the time and fails. 

-Average approval 35%

-Cordell Hull wins the Democratic nomination

I'm not even sure what's going on anymore. This timeline became odd and hard-to-follow, and not overly realistic (within the utter, complete inconceivable, and sublime suspension of disbelief required to be forced to even make alternate history of ANY sort work), and I can't figure out, even reading back in the previous posts several times, just what's going on and how this all fits together.

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19 hours ago, Patine said:

I'm not even sure what's going on anymore. This timeline became odd and hard-to-follow, and not overly realistic (within the utter, complete inconceivable, and sublime suspension of disbelief required to be forced to even make alternate history of ANY sort work), and I can't figure out, even reading back in the previous posts several times, just what's going on and how this all fits together.

It's alternate history,I'm not a fan of or reader of the "professional" alternate history buffs (I really never understood that personally) ,it may be hard to follow in some sense but everything does line up,and ive seen much much more unrealistic timelines,and I do personally like odd, and different though it may make sense to some and not others, people perceive things differently, we are all human,and they arent as in depth as my future posts will be,I could have just done a bunch of sims in were polls are affected but i wanted a tiny bit of background. And this Isn't going to be my main alternate history post, I am just throwing things together to finish this series, thats why my posts arent as in depth as they will be (and they will be very perceivable), this isn't in anyway my main line of storytelling that i plan to do. 

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Just saying that I loved this series; was Ford Henry Ford that somehow got five terms as President?

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Taft's first term

-"old' racism nearly dies in the south (KKK dies down to todays standards)

-Makes segregation illegal

-Favored wall street,stocks were at an all time high,does this with investments for the economy 

-Raises taxes across all boards by 5%,This was very unpopular however this started the push for a NHS(national health service),as the UK was doing the same at the time.

-Decreased military spending to make room for healthcare and education spending

-Average approval 47%

-Taft announces he will NOT run for a second term,simply saying he wanted to help "repair a post war world",announcing he may return to politics later

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1948

MacArthur/Lodge Jr. (rep) vs Wallace/Hull (dem)---One of the closer overall elections,also a sort of realigning election.,many states were decided by less than 3%

 

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MacArthur first term

-Increased military spending to an all time high.

-Start of "The Cold War"---MacArthur declares man on moon by 1951,He succeeds. 

-Korean War begins in 1949,on July 4 1952,Korea is unified under a Democratic South Korea.

-Creates a 22% flat tax for all Americans (Was 16%(L),19%(M),25%(U))

-Passes a Nationalized health care system (Same as the UK's NHS),The first steps of it. (Gets through The house)

-A major scandal happens were MacArthur is accused of secretly ordering chemical weapons to be used against the North Korean regime

-Average approval 44%

 

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1952

MacArthur/Lodge Jr (I)(rep) vs Humphrey/Kennedy (dem)--The scandal kills MacArthur

 

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