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Basically I will choose the candidates and do head to heads each election,with a quick 5 point summary of each presidents term modifying the polls to fit performance using all @vcczar scenarios

Fyi:In this epbp vp's are selected by a congress vote when someone wins the nomination (just would rather focus on region % the adding VP's)

EDIT:100 Years of History (Presidents 1868-1968)

Grant (R) 1868-1876 :2 terms

Conkling (R) 1876-1880  :1 term

Tilden (D) 1880-1888 :2 terms

Sherman (R) 1888-1896 :2 terms

Cleveland (D) 1896-1900,1904-1908 :2 terms

LaFollete (R) 1900-1904 :1 term

Parker (D) 1908-1916 :2 terms

Ford (R) 1916-1936 :5 terms

Roosevelt (D) 1936-1944 :2 terms

Taft (R) 1944-1948,1956-1960 :2 terms

MacArthur (R) 1948-1952 :1 term

Humphrey (D) 1952-1956, 1960-1968 :3 terms

Romney (R) 1968-1972 :1 term

Sanford (D) 1972-1976: 1 term

Reagan (R) 1976-1980: 1 term

Brown (D) 1980-1984: 1 term

McGovern (D) 1984-1996: 3 terms 

Gingrich (R) 1996-2004: 2 terms

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1868

Grant/Colfax (rep) vs Johnson/Pierce (dem) vs Fillmore/Bell (cu)

 

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Grants First term

Same as IRL

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1872

Grant/Wilson (I)(rep) vs Trumbull/Chase (lr) vs O'Connor/Tilden (bd) vs Black/Mitchell (pro) vs Woodhull/Douglas (er)               Ouch.

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Grants 2nd term

same as irl

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1876

Conkling/Blaine (rep) vs Hancock/English (dem) vs Cooper/Carey (gb)

 

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Conklings 1st term

-Continued Grants policys

-Proclaimed people to move to Utah to make a "bridge" to the West Coast,offered free land to movers.

-Attempted to deems Democrats the Confederate Party mid term,and was known as being a bigot towards the south. 

-Attempted to try to put into effect the execution of all Conferderate generals,this is when Conkling really deemed "unstable"

-Approval started at around 40% but by the end of his presidency was at 17%. He was seemed as doomed,but industrial republicans liked him winning him the nomination.

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Just now, TheMiddlePolitical said:

Conklings 1st term

-Continued Grants policys

-Proclaimed people to move to Utah to make a "bridge" to the West Coast,offered free land to movers.

-Attempted to deems Democrats the Confederate Party mid term,and was known as being a bigot towards the south. 

-Attempted to try to put into effect the execution of all Conferderate generals,this is when Conkling really deemed "unstable"

-Approval started at around 40% but by the end of his presidency was at 17%. He was seemed as doomed,but industrial republicans liked him winning him the nomination.

OOC: Unstable? To play the Devil's Advocate, I thought treason was a capital crime in the U.S. The RW blanket amnesty was a civic grace of immense forbearance not actually deserved or warranted by U.S. law, I might add.

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27 minutes ago, Patine said:

OOC: Unstable? To play the Devil's Advocate, I thought treason was a capital crime in the U.S. The RW blanket amnesty was a civic grace of immense forbearance not actually deserved or warranted by U.S. law, I might add.

I believe i am deeming Conkling of a "If Trump was a post Cival War president" variety,Even though Conkling is being supported by the inner party elites.

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3 minutes ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

I believe i am deeming Conkling of a "If Trump was a post Cival War president" variety,Even though Conkling is being supported by the inner party elites.

I don't know. Conkling ran the Republican party machine in New York that caught up to Tammany Hall pretty quickly. He couldn't be THAT unstable or off-balance, in my opinion.

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5 minutes ago, Patine said:

I don't know. Conkling ran the Republican party machine in New York that caught up to Tammany Hall pretty quickly. He couldn't be THAT unstable or off-balance, in my opinion.

I guess you could say especially for this series,A few of these presidents who were power hungry may go somewhat awall,especially after sitting through Trump the past year,though it was obvious for him,anything could happen.

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1880

Conkling/Harrison (I)(rep) vs Tilden/Johnston (dem)

 

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Tildens 1st term

-Assassination of Tilden was everted

-Steady economic growth

-Republican party had a collapse

-Tilden championed workers rights

-Very controversy free

-57% approval average

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On ‎2018‎-‎01‎-‎27 at 7:41 PM, TheMiddlePolitical said:

1872

Grant/Wilson (I)(rep) vs Trumbull/Chase (lr) vs O'Connor/Tilden (bd) vs Black/Mitchell (pro) vs Woodhull/Douglas (er)               Ouch.

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Where was Victoria Woodhull in 1872?

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3 hours ago, Patine said:

Where was Victoria Woodhull in 1872?

I believe I just forgot to turn her on

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1884

Lincoln/Edmunds (rep) vs Tilden/Adams (I)(dem) 

 

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Tildens 2nd Term

-Tilden dies of illness, 3 months into his second term making John Q. Adams II President

Adams 1st term

-Adams continued Tildens plan, while cutting taxes 

-subsidized farming

-Was known to be againist big buisness, making harshing regulations

-nearly went to war with mexico over a boarder dispute near Texas

-Was considered a "northern democrat" making his southern support not as strong

-Prohibition Party considered a strong 3rd party

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1888

Sherman/Morton (rep) vs Adams/Cleveland (I) (dem) vs Fisk/Brooks (pro)

 

 

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Shermans 1st term

-Ended reconstruction for good

-Was extremely Conservative,completely ignoring civil and womens rights

-Supported big business and imposed tariffs on imports,which in turn boosted the economy

-Backed the economy with gold and silver

-Went to war with Mexico for 3 months,ending with victory and little loss,which made the countrys morale high

-Average approval 41%

-during the campaign it was found that he ignored lynchings and even called the KKK "a group that champions free speech" which made the north retaliate with riots

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1892

Sherman/Lodge (I)(rep) vs Cleveland/Steveinson (dem)

 

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Shermans 2nd term

-Focused on championing southern policies

-Legalized "lynching under rightful cause" this destroyed his northern support

-Dodged New England withdrawing from the Union

-Established a National healthcare system

-raised taxes 

-focused on building a stronger army and navy

-approval average 39%

-National Democrats become the democrats "southern party",while also having support in the North. This gives them a chance to be the true 3rd party.

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1896

Sherman/Lodge (I)(rep) vs Cleveland/Pattinson (dem) vs Palmer/Buckner (ndem)

 

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Clevelands 1st term

-Cleveland disbanded the Democratic Party and became a National Democrat 

-Supported big buisness which gained him popularity in New England,and also supported farmers which helped him in the south and west

-Went to war with Cuba for 3 days,Cuba surrenederd after Cleveland sent half of the USA's navy (largest in the world) to cubas port

-Supported both Civil and Womens rights

-Switched the economy to only be backed by Gold,and Greenbacks

-Revamped reconstruction in the south,prosecuted racist groups such as the KKK

-Approval average was 59%

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6 minutes ago, TheMiddlePolitical said:

Clevelands 1st term

-Cleveland disbanded the Democratic Party and became a National Democrat 

-Supported big buisness which gained him popularity in New England,and also supported farmers which helped him in the south and west

-Went to war with Cuba for 3 days,Cuba surrenederd after Cleveland sent half of the USA's navy (largest in the world) to cubas port

-Supported both Civil and Womens rights

-Switched the economy to only be backed by Gold,and Greenbacks

-Revamped reconstruction in the south,prosecuted racist groups such as the KKK

-Approval average was 59%

The Democratic Party is very big party to just casually disband on a whim. Also, the Royal Navy was BY FAR the world's largest navy straight from the sinking of the Spanish Armada in the late 16th Century until the Second World War, and made immense efforts and utilized it's global colonial empire ruthlessly and with impunity to keep that status in those days (as Kaiser Wilhelm II learned in the very late 19th Century).

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1900

La Follete/Mckinley (rep) vs Dewey/Stevenson (dem) vs Cleveland/Hanford (I)(ndem) ----This was a major,major upset.

 

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