WVProgressive 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 Played as Miliband and beat Tony Bliar's landslides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYrepublican 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 40 minutes ago, WVProgressive said: Played as Miliband and beat Tony Bliar's landslides With only 37.9% of the vote,courtesy of FPTP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: With only 37.9% of the vote,courtesy of FPTP. FPTP does have may flaws, but at least, unlike PR, MMP, STV, and some other electoral systems, political parties, while they do tend to form, are not an institutionalized absolute essential for all candidates and the parties don't own the seats, being free to remove members who dissent from the party line due to conscience or some other reason, but in FPTP, be it in the Westminster system or the U.S. Congressional/State Legislative system, the seat belongs to the elected member, and, by proxy, their constituents, and, if the elected member breaks with party ranks, they have to answer to their constituents in the next election for it, not be ejected by their party before that election. It's FPTP sole real redeeming feature, but in my mind it is still a powerful one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegolasRedbard 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 13 hours ago, WVProgressive said: Played as Miliband and beat Tony Bliar's landslides you beat his third election, but you're 12 off beating him in '97 and 7 off beating him in '01 in terms of seats. where did UKIP gain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVProgressive 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, LegolasRedbard said: you beat his third election, but you're 12 off beating him in '97 and 7 off beating him in '01 in terms of seats. where did UKIP gain? West of England Central England and the Home Counties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
