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2 hours ago, Patine said:

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My list of planned, high priority election scenarios has been significantly trimmed. It stands as follows:

-Germany 1871 and 1912

-Austria 1911 and Hungary 1910 (Dual Monarchy)

-Russia 1912 (State Duma) and 1917 (Constituent Assembly)

-Ottoman Empire 1908

-France (National Assembly) 1951

-Alberta 1909, 1917, 1921, 1935, and 1940

-Canada 1921, 1935, 1940, and 1957

-Manitoba 1870

-England 1640

-Great Britain 1774, 1780, and 1797

-United Kingdom 1900 and 1918

-Wisconsin 1902

-Czechoslovakia 1920

-Several Undecided Elections in Japan and India

-South Africa 1994

-Mexico 2000

Mexico 2000 is one I look forward to as we studied it in my class recently :)

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Added just a few more, but a modest, number of elections to the previous recent list (it's been edited).

On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎12 at 9:30 PM, ThePotatoWalrus said:

Germany 1912 tho

I'm not clear here. Is this a question, a statement of exceptional interest, or something else?

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

 

Added just a few more, but a modest, number of elections to the previous recent list (it's been edited).

I'm not clear here. Is this a question, a statement of exceptional interest, or something else?

That 1912 election will be a pain to make. 

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4 minutes ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

That 1912 election will be a pain to make. 

Why is that? It worked like the other pre-WW1 Imperial German Reichstag elections - it just happened to be the last of them.

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12 hours ago, Patine said:

Why is that? It worked like the other pre-WW1 Imperial German Reichstag elections - it just happened to be the last of them.

I was just thinking of the high number of parties in that election. Granted as an American, anything above 2 is high lol. 
What game will you be making the 1912 scenario on?

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4 hours ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

I was just thinking of the high number of parties in that election. Granted as an American, anything above 2 is high lol. 
What game will you be making the 1912 scenario on?

Congress Forever, actually. The Pre-WW1 Imperial German Reichstag was FPTP (unlike in the Weimar Republic and Federal Republic of Germany) and, like the American Congress, had purely legislative duties - the German Chancellor, though he had to push his budgets and agendas through the Reichstag (Otto von Bismarck, in his day, had a coalition of several parties that generally supported him, and others that were in opposition to him), the Chancellor of the Pre-WW1 German Empire was appointed and dismissed by the Kaiser alone, and never sat, himself, in the Reichstag, as a member in those days, though the Reichstag was capable of making a "vote of not confidence" on him, this was technically symbolic, to show the disapproval of the majority of the Reichstag of the job the Chancellor was doing, and was only ever done twice, though in both cases led the Chancellor in question to resign, considering his position unworkable, but he didn't technically have the legal obligation to resign.

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On 4/15/2018 at 11:54 AM, Patine said:

Congress Forever, actually. The Pre-WW1 Imperial German Reichstag was FPTP (unlike in the Weimar Republic and Federal Republic of Germany) and, like the American Congress, had purely legislative duties - the German Chancellor, though he had to push his budgets and agendas through the Reichstag (Otto von Bismarck, in his day, had a coalition of several parties that generally supported him, and others that were in opposition to him), the Chancellor of the Pre-WW1 German Empire was appointed and dismissed by the Kaiser alone, and never sat, himself, in the Reichstag, as a member in those days, though the Reichstag was capable of making a "vote of not confidence" on him, this was technically symbolic, to show the disapproval of the majority of the Reichstag of the job the Chancellor was doing, and was only ever done twice, though in both cases led the Chancellor in question to resign, considering his position unworkable, but he didn't technically have the legal obligation to resign.

why not pmi?

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12 minutes ago, Rarename91 said:

why not pmi?

Because, if you read the post you quoted, the pre-WW1 German Reichstag functioned more like the U.S. Congress in role, more or less, than the British or Canadian Parliaments, in that it was a purely law-making body that also passed the Imperial Budget, and could censure the Imperial Chancellor, and other High Officers of the Empire, and even make a "vote of no confidence," (which, unlike in a true Parliamentary System, was pure, but powerfully, symbolic, and did not MANDATE the Imperial Chancellor's resignation, but led to it de facto the two times it did happen in the German Empire), but the Imperial Chancellor and the High Officers of the Empire were not responsible to the Reichstag, nor required to hold the majority therein - in the way the PM or other head-of-government and their cabinet, council of ministers, or executive council are in the Parliamentary system that's represented in the PMI game, but were appointed and dismissed solely at the pleasure of the Kaiser. That's why I believe CI would work far better in this case.

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33 minutes ago, Rarename91 said:

when should we expect the first of any of these to be release?

I've been very busy of late in RL. The cold months are the busiest time, by far, where I work.

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So, now that I will probably have some more spare time, and need to do something more productive about here and warn and criticize people about the impending decline, fall, and doom of their civilization they're merrily supporting and helping along (one cannot help those who will not see or help themselves, after all), and I've seemed to have conquered some of the issues I've had with making scenarios for PI, PMI, and CI (though, due to @admin_270's sense of marketing priorities I find quite flawed and misguided, a fair number of projects will require to be made by K4E), I've returned to scenario making, and have focused and refined my current bucket list of scenarios planned. These are currently the priorities up in queue:

-Historic Canadian Federal and Provincial elections (exact ones not fully determined)

-German Reichstag 1871 and possibly other German Empire era ones

-French Legislative Assembly 1791, National Convention 1792, and Council of 500 and Council of Ancients 1795 and 1798

-Revision of my West Germany 1949 election, and possibly other West German and maybe Weimar Republic ones

-East Germany 1990, and maybe other Warsaw Pact nations in 1989 or 1990

-Congress of People's Deputies USSR 1989 and Russia 1990 and other 14 Union Republics' Supreme Soviets 1990

-Post-Cold War Russia, Ukraine, Caucasus Republics, Baltic Republics, former Yugoslavian states, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic

-South Africa Post-Apartheid and possibly Apartheid-era elections

-India (select elections)

-Japan (select elections)

-New Zealand (select elections)

-Some old British elections

-Kingdom of Hawaii Legislature

-U.S. House of Representatives 1854 and a few very select historical gubernatorial elections

And that's a starting ground. I'm also willing to collaborate with any other scenario maker for the most part.

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8 minutes ago, Patine said:

@willpaddyg @daons @LegolasRedbard @Prussian1871 @wolves @SirLagsalott @michaelsdiamonds @victorraiders  @Falcon @jnewt @President Garrett Walker  @Conservative Elector 2 @SeanFKennedy @vcczar @jvikings1 @harveyrayson2 @lizarraba @TheMiddlePolitical @CalebsParadox @MrPrez @msc123123 @NYrepublican  @RI Democrat @servo75  @Presidentinsertname  @ThePotatoWalrus @Sunnymentoaddict @TheLiberalKitten @Quebecois @avatarmushi @Sami @WVProgressive @Kingthero @Lyly @President Trenton Adams @FrancisXKennedy @MBDemSoc @Ido@Thunder@Wiw@Harris/Ernst 2020@jnewt@Ishan@manlex @LokiLoki22 @IonicAmalgam @jdm06ltd @Berg2036 @ZedWilliamsR @Demon Taka @NYConservative@POLITICALBOMB @thr33 @Hestia11  @Actinguy @SilentLiberty @darkmoon72 @Talique @HonestAbe 

So, now that I will probably have some more spare time, and need to do something more productive about here and warn and criticize people about the impending decline, fall, and doom of their civilization they're merrily supporting and helping along (one cannot help those who will not see or help themselves, after all), and I've seemed to have conquered some of the issues I've had with making scenarios for PI, PMI, and CI (though, due to @admin_270's sense of marketing priorities I find quite flawed and misguided, a fair number of projects will require to be made by K4E), I've returned to scenario making, and have focused and refined my current bucket list of scenarios planned. These are currently the priorities up in queue:

-Historic Canadian Federal and Provincial elections (exact ones not fully determined)

-German Reichstag 1871 and possibly other German Empire era ones

-French Legislative Assembly 1791, National Convention 1792, and Council of 500 and Council of Ancients 1795 and 1798

-Revision of my West Germany 1949 election, and possibly other West German and maybe Weimar Republic ones

-East Germany 1990, and maybe other Warsaw Pact nations in 1989 or 1990

-Congress of People's Deputies USSR 1989 and Russia 1990 and other 14 Union Republics' Supreme Soviets 1990

-Post-Cold War Russia, Ukraine, Caucasus Republics, Baltic Republics, former Yugoslavian states, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic

-South Africa Post-Apartheid and possibly Apartheid-era elections

-India (select elections)

-Japan (select elections)

-New Zealand (select elections)

-Some old British elections

-Kingdom of Hawaii Legislature

-U.S. House of Representatives 1854 and a few very select historical gubernatorial elections

And that's a starting ground. I'm also willing to collaborate with any other scenario maker for the most part.

I'm most interested in playing those in bold above. You can also improve my Prime Minister election game that I started and never quite finished if you want. 

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17 hours ago, Patine said:

@willpaddyg @daons @LegolasRedbard @Prussian1871 @wolves @SirLagsalott @michaelsdiamonds @victorraiders  @Falcon @jnewt @President Garrett Walker  @Conservative Elector 2 @SeanFKennedy @vcczar @jvikings1 @harveyrayson2 @lizarraba @TheMiddlePolitical @CalebsParadox @MrPrez @msc123123 @NYrepublican  @RI Democrat @servo75  @Presidentinsertname  @ThePotatoWalrus @Sunnymentoaddict @TheLiberalKitten @Quebecois @avatarmushi @Sami @WVProgressive @Kingthero @Lyly @President Trenton Adams @FrancisXKennedy @MBDemSoc @Ido@Thunder@Wiw@Harris/Ernst 2020@jnewt@Ishan@manlex @LokiLoki22 @IonicAmalgam @jdm06ltd @Berg2036 @ZedWilliamsR @Demon Taka @NYConservative@POLITICALBOMB @thr33 @Hestia11  @Actinguy @SilentLiberty @darkmoon72 @Talique @HonestAbe 

So, now that I will probably have some more spare time, and need to do something more productive about here and warn and criticize people about the impending decline, fall, and doom of their civilization they're merrily supporting and helping along (one cannot help those who will not see or help themselves, after all), and I've seemed to have conquered some of the issues I've had with making scenarios for PI, PMI, and CI (though, due to @admin_270's sense of marketing priorities I find quite flawed and misguided, a fair number of projects will require to be made by K4E), I've returned to scenario making, and have focused and refined my current bucket list of scenarios planned. These are currently the priorities up in queue:

-Historic Canadian Federal and Provincial elections (exact ones not fully determined)

-German Reichstag 1871 and possibly other German Empire era ones

-French Legislative Assembly 1791, National Convention 1792, and Council of 500 and Council of Ancients 1795 and 1798

-Revision of my West Germany 1949 election, and possibly other West German and maybe Weimar Republic ones

-East Germany 1990, and maybe other Warsaw Pact nations in 1989 or 1990

-Congress of People's Deputies USSR 1989 and Russia 1990 and other 14 Union Republics' Supreme Soviets 1990

-Post-Cold War Russia, Ukraine, Caucasus Republics, Baltic Republics, former Yugoslavian states, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic

-South Africa Post-Apartheid and possibly Apartheid-era elections

-India (select elections)

-Japan (select elections)

-New Zealand (select elections)

-Some old British elections

-Kingdom of Hawaii Legislature

-U.S. House of Representatives 1854 and a few very select historical gubernatorial elections

And that's a starting ground. I'm also willing to collaborate with any other scenario maker for the most part.

To be honest, I think the most recent South African election is the only interesting post-Apartheid election to play. 

I'd love to see any of the French elections during the `Revolution!

 

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16 hours ago, TheLiberalKitten said:

Which Japanese elections do you plan to do?
Wiemar Republic elections would be interesting to see.

Good luck my friend :D

Most Japanese elections before the Liberal Democratic gained ascendency, certainly (1890-1953 - except 1942, which was not at all competitive), as well as the House of Representatives 1969 and 1972 (the elections concerning the reintegration of Okinawa as a big theme), 1976 (the "Lockheed election"), 1980 (where the incumbent PM, under the shock and betrayal of the vote of no confidence, and the following start of campaigning, died of a heart attack, no less!), 1993, 2009, and 2017, and House of Councillors 1956-1962, 1977-1983, and 2007 onwards.

3 hours ago, RI Democrat said:

Are there actual records of names, constituencies, and vote tallies for those French elections during the Revolution?

I am certainly hoping so, and will give searching for them a definite college try.

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23 minutes ago, Patine said:

Most Japanese elections before the Liberal Democratic gained ascendency, certainly (1890-1953 - except 1942, which was not at all competitive), as well as the House of Representatives 1969 and 1972 (the elections concerning the reintegration of Okinawa as a big theme), 1976 (the "Lockheed election"), 1980 (where the incumbent PM, under the shock and betrayal of the vote of no confidence, and the following start of campaigning, died of a heart attack, no less!), 1993, 2009, and 2017, and House of Councillors 1956-1962, 1977-1983, and 2007 onwards.

If you need any party logos/Candidate images, let me know I can try to make them the proper format.

These all sound like very interesting elections!

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On 6/17/2019 at 11:33 PM, Patine said:

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So, now that I will probably have some more spare time, and need to do something more productive about here and warn and criticize people about the impending decline, fall, and doom of their civilization they're merrily supporting and helping along (one cannot help those who will not see or help themselves, after all), and I've seemed to have conquered some of the issues I've had with making scenarios for PI, PMI, and CI (though, due to @admin_270's sense of marketing priorities I find quite flawed and misguided, a fair number of projects will require to be made by K4E), I've returned to scenario making, and have focused and refined my current bucket list of scenarios planned. These are currently the priorities up in queue:

-Historic Canadian Federal and Provincial elections (exact ones not fully determined)

-German Reichstag 1871 and possibly other German Empire era ones

-French Legislative Assembly 1791, National Convention 1792, and Council of 500 and Council of Ancients 1795 and 1798

-Revision of my West Germany 1949 election, and possibly other West German and maybe Weimar Republic ones

-East Germany 1990, and maybe other Warsaw Pact nations in 1989 or 1990

-Congress of People's Deputies USSR 1989 and Russia 1990 and other 14 Union Republics' Supreme Soviets 1990

-Post-Cold War Russia, Ukraine, Caucasus Republics, Baltic Republics, former Yugoslavian states, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic

-South Africa Post-Apartheid and possibly Apartheid-era elections

-India (select elections)

-Japan (select elections)

-New Zealand (select elections)

-Some old British elections

-Kingdom of Hawaii Legislature

-U.S. House of Representatives 1854 and a few very select historical gubernatorial elections

And that's a starting ground. I'm also willing to collaborate with any other scenario maker for the most part.

I will try as French to find back 1791 ballot box but it will be hard 😢

The only thing I can tell you is that one of the fathers of the american revolution, was elected MP in Pas de Calais constituency during this vote (not Washington obviously but a former american revolutionnary who signed the US declaration of independence)

(At this period French was the lingua france :()

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1 minute ago, Edouard said:

I will try as French to find back 1791 ballot box but it will be hard 😢

The only thing I can tell you is that one of the fathers of the american revolution, was elected MP in Pas de Calais constituency during this vote (not Washington obviously but a former american revolutionnary who signed the US declaration of independence)

(At this period French was the lingua france :()

I knew about Thomas Paine. ;)

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