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Elected UN General Assembly 2020 - An Idea

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So, although I had though a direct popular election for a single UN Secretary-General or any other apex executive office on a global was an unrealistic endeavour, I did, however, after some research, come up with an idea of an elected UN General Assembly that I may take up upon finishing with my current project. It's system would be modeled after the idea of how the European Parliament works (though not with the PR element at this point), using the various already extant political party international organizations that already exist, as well as some intuitive ones to fill some needed blanks, and about four parties and independent that at this point stand alone (though they may be able to cultivate allies) due to unique contexts and platforms. At this first draft, these international party organizations, which will function much like the European Parties bridge EU national parties in the European Parties, in a similar role of bridging national parties of similar ideology in this case. They are, at this stage, as follows:

-Centrist Democrat International

-Eurasian Political Union

-Foro de Sao Paulo

-Fourth International

-Global Greens

-Holy See Papal Nuncial Independent (solo)

-Humanist International

-International Alliance of Libertarian Parties

-International Conference of Marxist-Leninist Parties and Organizations

-International Democrat Union

-International Meeting of Communist and Worker's Parties

-International Monarchist League

-International of Anarchist Federations

-Justice and Development Party (solo)

-Kadima (solo)

-Liberal International

-Likud (solo)

-Muslim Brotherhood

-Pan-African Revolutionary Alliance

-Pirate Parties International

-Progressive Alliance

-Shi'a World Jurisprudence Council

-Socialist International

-United Arab Nationalist Movement

-Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization, European Free Alliance, and North American Secessionist Convention (as one single allied bloc)

-White European Nations and Peoples' Preservation Front

-Worker's Party of Korea (solo)

That's my tentative, tacit list at this point. A VERY volatile and explosive mix to have in one broad election, indeed.

 

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Sounds good. 

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Sounds interesting;  I'd definitely play and try to get the maximum number of candidates elected that are for abolishing the UN or restricting its powers.  That would be a nice challenge.

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Just now, jvikings1 said:

Sounds interesting;  I'd definitely play and try to get the maximum number of candidates elected that are for abolishing the UN or restricting its powers.  That would be a nice challenge.

Problem is, while such an electoral alliance may agree on that part, they'd probably be tearing each other's throats out on everything else... :P

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@Patine I just realized how many people you tagged haven't been on this forum in a long time. This forum sort of reminds me of this coffee shop I hung out at almost every day from 2001-2007. There were about 20 constant regulars throughout that time, and then about 20 or more rotating regulars that would hang around for about half a year and then take off for awhile, and then return. Then there were about 20 people that would hang out for about half a year to a year, and then were never seen again. 

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Just now, vcczar said:

@Patine I just realized how many people you tagged haven't been on this forum in a long time. This forum sort of reminds me of this coffee shop I hung out at almost every day from 2001-2007. There were about 20 constant regulars throughout that time, and then about 20 or more rotating regulars that would hang around for about half a year and then take off for awhile, and then return. Then there were about 20 people that would hang out for about half a year to a year, and then were never seen again. 

I've been reusing that tag for month through copy-paste. But, I do agree with your point.

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7 minutes ago, Patine said:

I've been reusing that tag for month through copy-paste. But, I do agree with your point.

Yeah, the master tag needs to be updated every 3 months, I think. Dallas used to be a super-regular. What ever happened to him? 

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There are not many Congress Infinity scenarios I would play in it's current state, but this is very intriguing. I could see multiple campaigns in this and a multitude of play throughs if you were to follow through on it's development and release. I hope you pursue it!

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I might make a fictional one based of the your UN level, possibly alternative historical. What if the UN existed in the year 1800 or something. 

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So, I'm in the process of coming up with at least a rudimentary, beginning list of candidates for the national affiliate parties of the political party internationals. I'm not yet exactly sure how best to break up the more populous nations into electoral districts, but each nation will get at least one member. For candidates, especially those whose affiliate parties are major in that given nation, I want to have those who'd be significant and noteworthy, but not sitting heads-of-state and/or government or those in other government positions unlikely to be given up for such an election (the same general position and calibre of politician who run in European Parliament or Andean Parliament elections currently, as a rule).

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6 minutes ago, Patine said:

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I'll at least tag those who've thus far responded to this thread here.

My knowledge of UN political structure is not very solid. I don't think I can actually offer much advice. However, if the scenario grabs my attention, and I play it, I'll probably quickly learn much about the structure, and then I can offer advice at that time. 

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Just now, vcczar said:

My knowledge of UN political structure is not very solid. I don't think I can actually offer much advice. However, if the scenario grabs my attention, and I play it, I'll probably quickly learn much about the structure, and then I can offer advice at that time. 

Basically, the idea here is to switch the polarity (fictitiously) from an appointed body made up of professional diplomats who are just mouthpieces for their current governments to something more akin to a global-level European Parliament, with politicians running and political party internationals serving to bridge like-minded national parties in a similar way to the European Parliament parties. I'm hoping that clears up my intentions a bit.

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Will it be equal representation among all members (like it is now) or will population matter?

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38 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Will it be equal representation among all members (like it is now) or will population matter?

I don't imagine such a thing would get off the ground unless the more populous (and thus, as a rule, wealthier and/or more powerful) nations got more than one member each. Also, it would balance (in a "law of the jungle" sort of way, if nothing else), the abolition of a Security Council as we currently know it. So yes, population would be a factor, but each nation would get at least one member.

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Two Israeli parties may be too much. I would make one fictitious Israeli party and that's it. Call it something like 

Maybe the רשות reshus(permission) party

@Patine

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11 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Two Israeli parties may be too much. I would make one fictitious Israeli party and that's it. Call it something like 

Maybe the רשות reshus(permission) party

@Patine

Mind you, Likud at least, would be for the right-wing nationalist revisionist Zionist Party (maybe Kadima is a bit redundant with it globally - I'm not sure). But, it's principal opponent for the Israeli seat (maybe two seats, depending on how it breaks down), the Israeli Labour Party, is already on the list as a member party of the Socialist International (I actually checked), and thus wouldn't require a party without a political international.

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3 minutes ago, Patine said:

Mind you, Likud at least, would be for the right-wing nationalist revisionist Zionist Party (maybe Kadima is a bit redundant with it globally - I'm not sure). But, it's principal opponent for the Israeli seat (maybe two seats, depending on how it breaks down), the Israeli Labour Party, is already on the list as a member party of the Socialist International (I actually checked), and thus wouldn't require a party without a political international.

Still a global election may have different parties and I like the party name "the permission party"

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1 minute ago, NYrepublican said:

Still a global election may have different parties and I like the party name "the permission party"

Alright, I'll have the Permission Party (as an unaffiliated party) versus the Israeli Labour Party (part of the Socialist International, which it is listed as) as the two main competitors for Israel's representation. Sound good?

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

Alright, I'll have the Permission Party (as an unaffiliated party) versus the Israeli Labour Party (part of the Socialist International, which it is listed as) as the two main competitors for Israel's representation. Sound good?

Yes

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3 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Yes

Since most Israeli parties that I've seen the logos of seem to often just have the name of the party in the Hebrew script with that slanting, blocky font (at least, again, in my observation), do you think you could make me such a logo for a "Permission Party?"

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