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Fictititious Future 2020's France, United Kingdom, Germany, European Parliament, and Others - Divergent Point Prequel Companion Scenarios

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Some planned companion scenarios to my 2028 divergent point prequels to my official 2048 Fictitious Future scenario set (ambitious, I know, but I'm bored with the usual), involves a France 2027 Presidential and National Assembly, United Kingdom 2025, Germany 202?, and the European Parliament 2024. Others down the line may include Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, India, Israel, Iran, Turkey, some other European countries, and Russia, and possibly several others, depending on how inspired I am. Current ideas for the ones listed in the post title are:

FRANCE

After widespread dissatisfaction from most corners with Macron's government, Marine LaPen wins the Presidency by a slim margin in the second round in 2022, but the PS leads the only viable coalition in the National Assembly and Senate, leading to a cohabitation government. Will this be resolved either way in 2027, or will another party make a surprise result and come up the middle?

UNITED KINGDOM

While the Brexit has been finalized, the political fallout has not been resolved. The Conservative and Unionist Party of the United Kingdom, barring name and image changes and rebrandings, arguably the oldest continuously operating political in the world, tracing direct lineage to the Royalists, or "Cavaliers", who faced down William Pym and Oliver Cromwell's Parliamentarians, or "Roundheads," in the 1640 English House of Commons election, has split. One faction, which has melded with the UKIP, favours a return to the "Splendid Isolation" that mostly dominated British dealings with the Continent from the end of the Hundred Year's War till WW2, while the other, which has melded with the Liberal Democrats, favours an "outside honest broker" role to EU affairs, which critics argue could lead to bailouts and interventionism. The two parties are very similar outside Continental policy. Labour on the left, and a merger of the British National and the small far-right-wing, nationalist parties into the National Democratic Party, on the right, both pledge to voters to put British domestic affairs first, within their respective end of the political spectrum. The SNP and Sinn Fein have ratcheted up demands for independence, but, in light of strong Welsh support for Brexit, Plaid Cymru has suffered at the polls. A British Republican Party has also gained traction. As well, the Gibraltar Protection Front and Bermuda Lobby have presented a petition formally to the Privy Council requesting representation for British Overseas Territories in the House of Commons, saying "if it works for far-flung holdings of France, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Spain, there's no reason it can't work for the Far Outposts of the Crown - it's not like an Empire with a quarter of the world's land area and a quarter of the world's population has to have MP's seated in Westminster in the modern day." However, the Crown Dependencies - the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, show little interest in the scheme, viewing participating in such an idea as apt to sacrifice their unique political and legal status with roots in the Middle Ages.

GERMANY

The "establishment" of German government still only hold on by a tenuous CDU/SPD Grand Coalition. Going into this election, the merger of the Free Voters, Alternative for Germany, and National Democratic Party, while shocking, is believed (or whistfully hoped) will collapse in an actual election or it's aftermath. Die Linke begins to eat at the SPD's polls when they shockingly (perhaps pragmatically) take a Euro-sceptic and touch-on-immigration stance suddenly as well, while keeping their left-wing rhetoric in all other areas. The biggest surprise going into this election is when the Free Democrats state they would not rule out a coalition with either the newly-united far-right party or Die Linke if the situation was "advantageous for Germany." As well, the Bavarian Party and the Southern Schleswig Voter's League, two regional secessionist parties, are polling higher than they have for any previous Bundestag Election since their heights in the very first one in 1949.

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, and Iceland have joined the EU, but is their timing bad? Will this be the most fractious and tumultuous of European Parliament elections, and possibly one of the last?

These are my initial thought. As always, I welcome input, suggestions, and constructive criticism.

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6 hours ago, Patine said:

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Some planned companion scenarios to my 2028 divergent point prequels to my official 2048 Fictitious Future scenario set (ambitious, I know, but I'm bored with the usual), involves a France 2027 Presidential and National Assembly, United Kingdom 2025, Germany 202?, and the European Parliament 2024. Others down the line may include Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, India, Israel, Iran, Turkey, some other European countries, and Russia, and possibly several others, depending on how inspired I am. Current ideas for the ones listed in the post title are:

FRANCE

After widespread dissatisfaction from most corners with Macron's government, Marine LaPen wins the Presidency by a slim margin in the second round in 2022, but the PS leads the only viable coalition in the National Assembly and Senate, leading to a cohabitation government. Will this be resolved either way in 2027, or will another party make a surprise result and come up the middle?

UNITED KINGDOM

While the Brexit has been finalized, the political fallout has not been resolved. The Conservative and Unionist Party of the United Kingdom, barring name and image changes and rebrandings, arguably the oldest continuously operating political in the world, tracing direct lineage to the Royalists, or "Cavaliers", who faced down William Pym and Oliver Cromwell's Parliamentarians, or "Roundheads," in the 1640 English House of Commons election, has split. One faction, which has melded with the UKIP, favours a return to the "Splendid Isolation" that mostly dominated British dealings with the Continent from the end of the Hundred Year's War till WW2, while the other, which has melded with the Liberal Democrats, favours an "outside honest broker" role to EU affairs, which critics argue could lead to bailouts and interventionism. The two parties are very similar outside Continental policy. Labour on the left, and a merger of the British National and the small far-right-wing, nationalist parties into the National Democratic Party, on the right, both pledge to voters to put British domestic affairs first, within their respective end of the political spectrum. The SNP and Sinn Fein have ratcheted up demands for independence, but, in light of strong Welsh support for Brexit, Plaid Cymru has suffered at the polls. A British Republican Party has also gained traction. As well, the Gibraltar Protection Front and Bermuda Lobby have presented a petition formally to the Privy Council requesting representation for British Overseas Territories in the House of Commons, saying "if it works for far-flung holdings of France, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Spain, there's no reason it can't work for the Far Outposts of the Crown - it's not like an Empire with a quarter of the world's land area and a quarter of the world's population has to have MP's seated in Westminster in the modern day." However, the Crown Dependencies - the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, show little interest in the scheme, viewing participating in such an idea as apt to sacrifice their unique political and legal status with roots in the Middle Ages.

GERMANY

The "establishment" of German government still only hold on by a tenuous CDU/SPD Grand Coalition. Going into this election, the merger of the Free Voters, Alternative for Germany, and National Democratic Party, while shocking, is believed (or whistfully hoped) will collapse in an actual election or it's aftermath. Die Linke begins to eat at the SPD's polls when they shockingly (perhaps pragmatically) take a Euro-sceptic and touch-on-immigration stance suddenly as well, while keeping their left-wing rhetoric in all other areas. The biggest surprise going into this election is when the Free Democrats state they would not rule out a coalition with either the newly-united far-right party or Die Linke if the situation was "advantageous for Germany." As well, the Bavarian Party and the Southern Schleswig Voter's League, two regional secessionist parties, are polling higher than they have for any previous Bundestag Election since their heights in the very first one in 1949.

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, and Iceland have joined the EU, but is their timing bad? Will this be the most fractious and tumultuous of European Parliament elections, and possibly one of the last?

These are my initial thought. As always, I welcome input, suggestions, and constructive criticism.

I'm most interested in the European Parliament election. 

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I like it.  In France, does that means the Socialist Party recovered after the failures of En Marche?  Also, will Le Pen call a referendum on EU membership or will she stick to her recent change in policy to working for reform instead of a full withdrawal?

In the UK, is UKIP still around or have they merged with other entities?  Also, for Scottish Independence, have the polls switched in favor of holding another independence referendum since Brexit has been completed?

I'll play any of these.  For Germany, the election could either be in 2021 or 2015 unless you have an event where the governing coalition collapses, forcing early elections. 

Which game are you planning to use to make these?

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3 hours ago, jvikings1 said:

I like it.  In France, does that means the Socialist Party recovered after the failures of En Marche?  Also, will Le Pen call a referendum on EU membership or will she stick to her recent change in policy to working for reform instead of a full withdrawal?

In the UK, is UKIP still around or have they merged with other entities?  Also, for Scottish Independence, have the polls switched in favor of holding another independence referendum since Brexit has been completed?

I'll play any of these.  For Germany, the election could either be in 2021 or 2015 unless you have an event where the governing coalition collapses, forcing early elections. 

Which game are you planning to use to make these?

Germany and the European Parliament may have to wait until Anthony fulfills some development promises for PMI - unless anyone here owns K4E...

As for the UKIP (and Liberal Democrats), I'd envisioned, as mentioned above, each mostly merges with one of the two main splits of old Conservatives. Given their division is largely on one major issue, there's a chance reconciliation several elections down the line is possible - and just as possible further exacerbation and division from each other will happen.

La Pen has stuck to her policy thus far, but certain members of her party aren't entirely happy and may challenge her internally at some point.

And yes, the Socialists gained back a lot of traction from the failure of En Marche.

And SNP would like another referendum, and Sinn Fein is pushing much harder for a "United Island of Ireland under a Dublin Republic."

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from 2020 elections germany are more hard to one conservative/nationalist win, the uk election system makes utility vote for conservative party,conservative party don't are attractive for conservatives voters probable will make UKIP win

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4 hours ago, victorraiders said:

from 2020 elections germany are more hard to one conservative/nationalist win, the uk election system makes utility vote for conservative party but probable continue with wrong positions about view of uk people

Forgive me, I am trying, but that statement was harder for me to understand the intent of than usual. I don't mean this as an insult - I know your first language isn't English - but the grammar in this particular statement makes it quite unclear to me what you're actually saying.

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23 minutes ago, Patine said:

Forgive me, I am trying, but that statement was harder for me to understand the intent of than usual. I don't mean this as an insult - I know your first language isn't English - but the grammar in this particular statement makes it quite unclear to me what you're actually saying.

very sorry, i say germany election nationalists/conservatives dont have chance to win in next election, and of uk system vote of seats

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@Patine If you don't have maps for some of those countries I can make them. Making ones with fictional boundaries and which I don't have templates for like your california and nevada one will take much longer.

Also since If I recall correctly MMP's extra non-constituency based seats are distributed by the national  vote I can make add-ons to calculate how those seats would look.

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@Patine I have renewed interest in this. I have maps for

-US

-Argentina

-Bolivia

-Chile

-Columbia

-France (a few maps)

-Serbia

- Poland

-Scotland

-Ireland

-Austria

-Ukraine

-Russia

-Japan

-South Korea

-Taiwan

-Czech Republic (not perfect)

-  Denmark

-Germnay

-Mexico

-Kenya

-Israel

-Guyana

-Brazil and more..

I even have a lot of city maps like

-Washington D.C

-Barcelona

-Madrid

-Paris

-Chicago

-Berlin

-Buenos aires

-NYC

-San Antonio

-Manchester

 

I can also send all the issue icons I've made so far for @vcczar

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

@Patine I have renewed interest in this. I have maps for

-US

-Argentina

-Bolivia

-Chile

-Columbia

-France (a few maps)

-Serbia

- Poland

-Scotland

-Ireland

-Austria

-Ukraine

-Russia

-Japan

-South Korea

-Taiwan

-Czech Republic (not perfect)

-  Denmark

-Germnay

-Mexico

-Kenya

-Israel

-Guyana

-Brazil and more..

I even have a lot of city maps like

-Washington D.C

-Barcelona

-Madrid

-Paris

-Chicago

-Berlin

-Buenos aires

-NYC

-San Antonio

-Manchester

 

I can also send all the issue icons I've made so far for @vcczar

 

 

 

 

I did have some plans to take this up again. There were just certain issues with the storyline that need smoothing out. Maps would certainly be very handy though, and appreciated.

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