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7 hours ago, The DM said:


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Sen. Weathers campaigns once again in Iowa City

Sen. Weathers spent the better part of the day walking door to door campaigning and talking to residents of Iowa City. When asked why she was her responce was "How are you going to know the real facts unless it comes from the horses mouth". She had a live interview over the radio which mainly focused on her recent endorser Sec. Clinton. Afterwards she was seen watching Star Wars VII with her husband.

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8 minutes ago, Sanser2016 said:

I asked you

Not for Hillary Clinton. 

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12 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

OOC: What is the date?

OOC: and If it's not January 1st already, can we maybe consider skipping ahead to then, I'm getting a little impatient and want to get to the primaries already :P

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1 hour ago, Biden Should've Run said:

OOC: and If it's not January 1st already, can we maybe consider skipping ahead to then, I'm getting a little impatient and want to get to the primaries already :P

OOC: Once we get to the 20th, I think it would be a good idea to skip to January since campaigns take a break for Christmas.

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Governor Tanton holds prayer service in Jefferson, IA seat of "Most religious county in IA"

Hello, people of Jefferson, today we are here to pray for the unborn, I only want to make one political statement today, if you should elect me President I will appoint Justices, should the duty arise, that will fight for the unborn no matter what, fight for their Human Rights. And now we pray. "Our Father....." "Hail Mary, Full Of ......" etc.

The Governor then went out to Red Oak to speak with a potential backer. This backer was none other than Senator Joni Ernst! The Governor procured the Senator's endorsement with this ringing statement.

Governor Tanton is the one for Iowa and I'm sure of it! After the monstrous and downright sinful decision of the Supreme Court in Parker, we need a man who'll fight for our evangelical values out here in Iowa!  He will fight for those who can't and any good Iowan knows that in the category first and foremost are the unborn babies! Now let's stop this crony immoralism that betrays the people and their values! Let's Elect John Tanton! 

Afterward, the Governor and Senator met families at the nearby Church and took photos and talked about God's disappearance from America. The Senator is expected to accompany the Governor for the next week or two talking about similar issues around Iowa.



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Sen. Jackson Stops in Alabama

Sen. Jackson’s campaign stopped in Huntsville, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile. He spoke about illegal immigration, gun rights, and the campaign.  In Tuscaloosa, the Senator spoke to students at the University of Alabama about the economy and the importance of voting.

“I know some of you are wondering why I am making a stop in a state that is dominated by Gov. Tanton.  Well, it is the same reason that I stopped in Arkansas.  I want people from all states to be able to hear my ideas and made a decision based on that.  The people need to hear ideas from those that are trying to represent them.  The President is a very powerful office and the leader of the free world.  The people of the US and the world need to know what the next President will stand for.  Now, let’s talk about guns.  I will support the people’s right to bear arms.  The 2nd Amendment was not put into the Constitution for hunting or anything like that.  It was added to protect against a government that attempts to take away the rights of the people.  The people must be able to arms themselves to protect against tyranny.  But, there are other benefits such as self-defense and hunting.  Another great advantage is the defense of our country against potential invaders.  Even though it will not happen anytime soon, if a country was somehow able to land an army in the US, the citizens would rise up and fight these invaders.  Guns help Americans defend the people and values that they hold.”

To students: “I know that the polls show a big difference between the leader and the rest of the field.  But, I am still urging everyone here to go out and vote when the time comes.  The right to vote is protected by the brave men and women of the military.  While we can never repay these people for their service, the least we can do is to use the rights that they defended.  When the time comes, bring your friends, family, roommates, and neighbors to the polls.”

Afterwards, Sen. Jackson met with the crowds before heading out to Georgia.

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Sen. Weathers holds town halls in Ceder Rapids and Des Moines

Sen. Weathers has been focusing on meeting citizens of Iowa and helping spread the word of her campaign. She spent the last 24 hours between two town halls where she pledged to make an advance in Healthcare and to overhaul the farming industry. While walking back to her campaign bus she was asked what does she think the most important part of this campaign is? "Well let me tell you I have been in politics for well over 30 years, and in those 30 years I have watched the Democratic party drift away from the rural man and woman. I pledge to bring America back to rural America and help them share in the American dream. I grew up in Houston, but I also spent a good portion of 10 years living in Hondo, which is a small out of the way town with a population of about 9 000. It was then when I realized that we the Democrats had left them. The rural part of America does not believe that we represent them and this is where we have failed for being a party of he people. That is why you see me as one of the only candidates who support rural revitalization efforts such as farming and agriculture subsidies among others. I believe that America has started from it's rural roots and will always have those roots. We can't just leave them behind. Thank You have a good night."

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Gov. Parish's Speech in CA

Arriving in Palo Alto, CA, Gov. Timothy Parish gave a speech at his Alma Mater, Stanford University, to local citizens and college students alike. "The astronomically high costs of college in our country make getting a higher education harder now than ever. As such, I believe we should lower the interest rates we charge for student loans to be 1% above the inflation rate of the American dollar. This would enable the next generation to pursue higher education and better themselves without forcing them to empty their wallets to do so."

Those students among the crowd seemed relatively pleased with the governor's commitment to higher education. "As president, one of my main focuses would be on the education system as a whole. Common Core has been a failure in many states, and politics have been wreaking havoc on the development young minds everywhere. The epidemic of standardized testing has forced teachers to spend less time teaching information and more time test-prepping their students with a barrage of any and every testing technique known to man."

After meeting with individual students following his speech, Gov. Parish spoke with individuals at a local diner where he expressed concern for balancing the budget, and for the future loss of jobs due to advances in robotics allowing for less and less positions needing to be filled by humans. He spoke of a grand workers plan, where people on welfare would contribute some form of work for the government - whether it's working on crumbling infrastructure or cleaning up highways, and anything in between. Doing this would benefit those on welfare, as they have a renewed sense of moral after being repeatedly told they're not good enough for the workforce, as well as provide them some experience and a better use for their time than sitting at home without work. "Such an action would allow us to repair our nation's cracks - the highways and schools and buildings - for mostly the same cost as welfare. The workers would be those economically disadvantaged, and this influx of money could jumpstart their consumption of products. Doing this would help save money and balance the budget. Welfare and other programs can be merged so that we can pay for two services with one check. Everyone - even those on welfare who are disabled - can be given SOME work to do, no matter how menial or mundane it seems to the average American."

After concluding day 2 of his campaign, Parish took to social media.

"Thanks to all who came and spoke with me. Everyday Americans deserve to meet who they elect, no matter where they live. My campaign platform is simple: Liberty, the economy, democracy."

"Next stop: New Hampshire. #Parish2016"

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6 hours ago, Biden Should've Run said:

OOC: and If it's not January 1st already, can we maybe consider skipping ahead to then, I'm getting a little impatient and want to get to the primaries already :P

It is the 15th of december, nope, sorry, its the 3rd of January

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Gov. Fischer speaks on Healthcare in NH

At an event in Manchester, NH, Gov. Fischer talked about healthcare.

"If I'm elected President, I would greatly expand Medicare and Medicaid. Under my plan, the percentage of the poverty line required to qualify for Medicaid would go up each year, and the age that you have to be to buy into Medicare would first be set at 55, and would decrease slowly each year. Eventually, these two programs would be merged and retooled into one program. The age of private insurance and employer plans will be dead! We'll make sure everyone's covered, and that they're always covered, no matter how much they rack up in medical bills. And of course, it'd all be paid for by higher taxes on the top 1% of earners, so we're not pointlessly racking up debt in the meantime."

The Governor's rather radical plan caught the crowd slightly off guard, but many of his supporters like the idea.

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Sen. Weathers makes surprise visit to Raleigh, NC

Sen. Weathers made a surprise visit to Raleigh today to hold a rally. "150 years ago we fought for slave's rights, 100 years ago we fought for women's rights, 50 years ago we fought for civil rights for African Americans and today we fight for LGBT rights. My fellow Americans I come here before you in the most heated debate of the decade over LGBT rights to ask you to fight for them and not against. Trans people need to use the bathroom according to their gender identity, not the marker on their birth certificate. They are in the bathroom to use it not to assault anyone. Most people who support this discriminatory bathroom bill has probably never met a Trans gendered person. We need to stand up for our everyday Americans that help make America great. That is why I would like to allow Attorney General Roy Cooper to say a few words." Roy Cooper came out to offer his endorsement for the Senator noting that his choice was made by Sen. Weathers life long fight for LGBT rights and her recent pledge to help urban AND rural Americans.The crowd went wild chanting Weathers. Weathers. Weathers. Both the Senator and Attorney General met with some of the people before Sen. Weathers had to leave.

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Sen. Mark Jackson Appears in Georgia

After spending time with his family in Kentucky (as well as 5 lucky supporters who got to go with Sen. Jackson and his family to the opening night of Star Wars: The Force Awakens) and then Illinois, Sen. Jackson got back onto the campaign trail having 2 days’ worth of events in Georgia.  His stops included Macon, Columbus, Atlanta, Athens, and Savannah.  In Athens, Sen. Jackson spoke to college students at the University of Georgia after his main event about free speech and the importance of letting people express their views.  To his other audiences, he spoke about school choice, his economic plan, and immigration policy.

“I want to return education policy to the local people.  That will allow you people to decide on things that relates to your kid’s education.   I am in support of school choice, but I would like to see this done on the local level by local people.  School choice will help everyone to have a chance to succeed and improve their situation.  But, the federal government has for far too long stuck its nose in education.  This is not right, and I would reverse it by abolishing the Department of Education.  The Washington Machine will dictate local education policy no more.  I will also try and push through a 15% flat tax on businesses and individuals. This would give you people more money to spend on things that you want to spend it on.  My tax plan will help the economy by stimulating spending and hiring while eliminating the unfair tax loopholes that some people are able to take thanks to their connections with the Washington Machine.  Finally, I want to speak about immigration policy.  I know that some farmers rely on immigrants’ labor to complete their tasks. That is why I want to implement a guest worker program which would allow foreigners to come in and work temporarily if there is a job shortage.  This will allow sectors of the economy to continue to operate while allowing ICE to deport those who should not be here.  This would help both American workers and business owners.”

To students: “Free speech is defended by the 1st Amendment.  I have always and always will defend this right for all Americans.  It is important to allow people to express their views even if you disagree with them.  If people cannot express their views, then freedom in America is at risk.  Let’s not let that happen.”

Afterwards, Sen. Jackson met with the crowds before leaving to go to Tennessee.

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Sen. Ackermann stops in Tennessee

Sen. Ackermann's campaign stopped in Tennessee. Ackermann spoke to students at the Vanderbilt University about finding the right direction in life. "You know, my grandparents came here from Austria when there was still a monarch in power. They had a dream because they knew exactly that they could achieve everything they want in this great country. I strongly believe that everybody of us can achieve great success in the United States of America, but it also needs your will to do what's necessary. We need you, you are our future." With this words Sen. Ackermann started an emotional speech on being young and fulfill a commitment to democracy. "Your voice can't be silent in our country, but in order to get heard by fellow Americans and by our great lawmakers at Capitol Hill, you need to go out and use your right to vote!" He also addressed to strengthen the position of women in America. "When I am looking at all those faces in this unbelievable crowd I see so many women of whom I am confident that they will lead our country in the future. It's great I mean less than 100 years ago this was not a common thing in this country. As you can see things are changing in this country to the better. And I strongly believe that we are not done yet."

At the end Ackermann was given standing ovations, met with students personally and signed many yearbooks before heading to a campaign rally in Nashville.


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Facebook post made by the governor:

This holiday season, many families nationwide are feeling the economic effects of the last 8 years. The slow growth can no longer be tolerated. A return to bipartisanship is needed. Political squabbling is fine and good, but when the lives of the American people are at stake, political gridlock only harms our constituents. A vote for me is a vote for the Rebith Republicanism.


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Governor Tanton heads South to Tennessee

The Governor, after spending Christmas in Alabama with his family, spent time in Tennessee. He visited Nashville, Memphis, Gatlinburg, Knoxville, and Chattanooga. He spoke about Southern Values, the Federal Cabal, and Washington Swamp.

How y'all doing today! Thought I might take a hop down South to talk a little. A little about you and a little about the people who's tryna keep you down. Now, who's taken a look at that Democratic race there? *jeers and boos* Now now haha. I know. The proposition is all more government. Well whee does it end. ITs like the trick with the magician and the rabbit! They just keep pulling more and more regulations, taxes, and programs that do nothin'  outta that hat. And who get's thrown back in? It ain't the programs they never go away always eating up more money, no the people get thrown away, their rights and land either regulated or completely taken away! No more, n more at all! It is my assertion government is the problem, you elect me and DC'll know it! Now there was another subject I wanted to talk about. It's one more area where DC Ivory Tower elites connect with Mainstreet Americans, especially us Southerners. Values. It's all Sex and Drugs and no more family. Exposing our kids to all kinds of immoral and sometimes pornographic smut. They got the FCC in their pocket you know? It is illegal to get kids to believe in Jesus too hard on the air, but we can show them Grown Men kissing and having intimate relations together? I mean come on! Get Real! I will fight for our values in DC! That you believe!

Later the Governor drove to Eastern Tennessee to speak in Coal Country;

One thing we as a nation are making out to be the devil: coal! Well that devil is not the least of our devils! It isn't even one. Coal gives millions of Americans and thousands of Tennesseans and their families food. You want someone to fight for coal, I'm your man.

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Sen. Weathers questions Republicans on Facebook.

Sen. Weathers said on Facebook: Why are all the Republicans going to Tennessee? Also Iowa get ready for a rocky week!

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Sen. Jackson Stops in Tennessee

Sen. Jackson made stops in Memphis, Clarksville, Nashville, Murfreesboro, Chattanooga, and Knoxville.  In Knoxville, the Senator spoke to students at the University of Tennessee.  The issues that were covered were terrorism, government spending, and the economy.  To students, he spoke about the economy and working with governors to reduce the cost of in state tuition.

“Over the last decade, terrorism has increased around the world.  This is because of a few factors.  One of them is the US’s policy of nation building.  We must stop knocking out stable governments because it allows radicals to grow in strength and numbers.  Another thing that we must do is temporarily close of immigration from terrorist infected countries.  We must not let the enemy easily infiltrate our borders.  That would lead to massive amounts of deaths among innocent civilians.  I will protect the nation no matter what the PC police say.  American lives come before political correctness!  *loud cheers*  But, terrorism is not the only threat that our country faces.  We are approaching a dangerous debt zone because of reckless spending over the years by the Washington Machine.  If we do not do something soon, we will give our kids and grandkids an impossible situation that they didn’t ask for.  That would be cruel and irresponsible.  We must work to reduce the budget deficit in order to reduce the debt.  If we continue to pile on debt, we will become like Greece.  We will not be the top country in the world.  I do not want to see that happen.  That would be a great disaster for America and the world.  If you elect me, I will get the economy back on track, reduce the budget deficit, and work to punish those who wish to wage war against America.”

Afterwards, Sen. Jackson met with the crowds before heading to Virginia.


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Sen. Weathers holds largest rally yet!

Sen. Weathers held a rally in Des Moines counting 29 000 people. She spoke mainly about bringing back the American Dream.

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OOC: Looks like Someone hacked into Gov. Tanton's Twitter account

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Democratic Debate

Mod: Welcome to the first Democratic Primary Debate.  Thank you for all the candidates who decided to participate.

Bennett: Thank you for having us, I hope this is a civil debate.

Greene: Thank you

Fischer: Thank you, it's great to be here!

Mod: Recently, candidates have been mentioning black lives matter in their speeches.  What is your position on this matter?

Greene: Personally, BLM is, to me, a group of concerned citizens exercising their right to peaceful protest in order to point out issues with our nation. They are citizens concerned that their lives are less valued than other's by our police and society. I intend on hearing their voice. By all means, if a protest becomes violent, restore order, but the majority of protests are peaceful, and should be allowed to continue without. 

Bennett: Black Lives do matter. This isn't to say their lives matter more than any other race or ethnicity, but there is an urgency to remind the nation they exist. And it is sad, in 2015, we need to have these protest. It is sad that we have statistics of over hundred unarmed black men killed by the police in a year. It is sad that 1/3 black men will be sentenced for a crime, while a white man will have a 1/17 chance- if we keep all other variables the same. Saying 'black lives matter' only offers easy support: we acknowledge its existence, without offering solutions. We need to review our criminal justice system, and finally end unfair burden placed and millions of Americans.


I know I am not an expert on policing, and well aware that many that have been in the force for years will have their opinions; but I will make it my honor to work closely with the Fraternal Brotherhood, and the NAACP and ACLU to insure we can create a new system that accurately reflects the expectations of a nation as diverse as ours.

Fischer: Black lives matter! It's as simple as that. America has a long and tragic history of pretending that they don't, and while it may seem like we've "solved" racism, we really haven't. Police officers are more likely to use force on African Americans they stop than they are on Caucasians. African Americans are significantly more likely to be arrested for drug related crimes, even though they use drugs at about the same rate as white people. And due to racially-biased policies, African Americans make up 37% of the prison population even though they only account for 13% of the US population. We need to fix all of these issues, and more by amending or even repealing the Violent Crime Control and Enforcement Act of 1994, and training police officers how to interact with members of the communities they serve.

Weathers: I fully endorse BLM and I will continue to support BLM even if I am lucky enough to get elected. Today in this day and age it is sad to see such hatred from our fellow Americans towards a group that promotes Black pride and Black culture. I would be scared to see what would our fellow Americans would think about movements like the Harlem Renaissance and  the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's. BLM is here for the betterment of African Americans and if we are going to try to shoot that down, well then that is just sad. The Republicans love to act as if the BLM movement is a "Black KKK" which is just a downright insult. The KKK's purpose was and is to support White Supremacy, while BLM is just a movement as I said before to promote Black culture.

Mod: Alright, let move on to another issue that has come up recently in the election.  That is the issue of immigration, specifically illegal immigration.  What are your plans regarding this issue?

Fischer: I've been quite outspoken on this issue, and I've even met with unauthorized migrants and engaged in a dialogue about their reasons for being here. I believe that we need to deport all migrants who aren't authorized to be here and who have committed other crimes. HOWEVER, for those migrants who contribute to and love this country so much that they were willing to risk their lives to get here (the vast majority, I believe), we should forgive and forget, and give them a second chance.

Greene: I don't believe that we should treat this as an issue. Simplify the immigration system, get rid of individual maximum quotas for nations, and focus on job growth and our future. I do believe that a sort of "Ellis Island of the South" will be needed for this, where immigrants are registered, a health exam, and a background check is given. I do believe that any immigrant who commits a major felony such as murder, or kidnapping should be deported if they've only been here a short while, as they have proven themselves unworthy of our nation. Also, deported criminals would be flagged such that they may not enter again. Ever.

Mod: When immigrants where coming through Ellis Island, there were a relatively small amount of restrictions.  Are you proposing a close to open border policy?

Greene: Generally, yes. A background, and health check are all that should be needed. Only so many people can be processed per day, so that would limit our immigration in a more natural way than quotas and deportation of safe immigrants. 

Weathers: I agree with Senator Greene that we need to simplify the immigration system. We need to depot the ones with violent criminal backgrounds and need to look into their past to see if they've been good citizens. We need to look towards legalizing the ones that have lived here and maintained a presence in society. We also need to overhaul the viza system making it easy to renew visas and make it less likely to be a continuing problem in the future. I am a Senator of the great state of Texas and have been serving that state for over 30 years. I have seen that immigration, even illegal has tremendously helped us.

Mod: What are your views on America's place in the world and its foreign policy?

Fischer: America should absolutely not be the world's policeman, and we shouldn't invade other countries or build nations. We should use diplomacy more frequently than force, and we should stop the drone strikes that have been a staple of this administration. As for Israel, we should look to promote peaceful, productive negotiations between the nation and Palestine, but not force anything one way or the other.

Greene: The United States should always lead by example, and make our government and democracy more transparent. We should not condemn nations who use torture while we still use this barbaric and ineffective form of interrogation on our own citizens without a proper trial before their peers. The United States must eventually realize that being the greatest nation on earth is not a competition, and it is our own obligation to help nations less fortunate than ours achieve the necessities of living, rather than dropping bombs on them for the actions of a tiny minority of their people. It would assist these nations more to work with them to end terror, rather than charging in to unilaterally end it ourselves. Diplomacy is our greatest asset, and only an empire uses force before diplomacy.  America must use its considerable power responsibly, and build relations with nations, even if we don't think that they are convenient to our current plans. We are the bad guy to much of the world because of our tendency to overthrow governments and establish ones in our own image, and then overthrow them when their people do something that we don't like. We are seen by much of the world to be violent hypocrites and that fuels extremist groups, then we add fuel to their fire when we go in to try and get rid of them. We should come to terms with this, and find a way to establish a more peaceful foreign policy.

Bennett: I agree with Senator Greene, that we have used our in influential power for short term gain during Cold War that have now bit us in the keester. But we must use this to avoid the world. We need to follow a policy that embraces liberal ideals for the globe: even if it means taking hard stances against leaders like Assad. When dealing with Assad, a brutal tyrant that used chemical warfare on his own citizens, we need to insure that the Russians will not be bombing the strongholds for the Free Syrian Army or the Kurds during their "ISIS bombing raids".  I will impose a no-fly zone in Syria, and urge the world to recognize Syrian Revolutionary Government as the true government of Syria.  However, that is not the only issue with foreign policy the US faces: we are also facing a threat from foreign adversaries such as China, and non-political actors when it comes to cyber security.  These actors/ nations are well aware that a one on one- traditional warfare- with the largest military on Earth is a tall order for them to succeed in. However, they are easily exploiting our weaknesses by hacking into federal and private databases. I would love for the GOP and Democrats team together with the brightest minds in Silicon Valley to find a solution to create a national firewall that will help transform our military for the 21st century.

Fischer: With all due respect, Representative Bennett, I believe a no-fly zone is not the way to go. Like President Obama and the Joint Chiefs, I fear that it could cause escalation to an all-out war with Russia. If you establish a no-fly zone, and a Russian plane violates it, would President Bennett shoot it down? President Fischer would feel that he had to, or else show Russia that we can be walked all over, but shooting down that plane would also come with the very real possibility of starting World War III. I'd rather not even put America into a position where it has to make those life-or-death, potentially civilization-ending decisions. We should pull out of Syria, send in a humanitarian force, and accept as many refugees as we safely can, and let the war take its course without acting like imperialists. If we do that, we can avoid another quagmire like we had in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Greene: I believe that Fischer is correct, and that we should work with Russia, Turkey, and other powers in the area to assist civilians with humanitarian aid. 

Bennett: If we based every military action on what Russia might do, then the US would've never created NATO- would this provoke the Russian's? This debate shouldn't be scared to show the world we are willing to stand against tyrants like Assad. I highly doubt that Russia will want an active war with the US/NATO. If we are willing to let Syrian Revolutionary Army be defeated, over a fear that there will be a World War 3; then we should not preach about liberalism abroad. If Russia were to continue the bombing raids against the SRF, I will work with Turkey, and western forces to impose another round of sanctions on the Russian state. The Russians are saber rattling, I will let them know that I hear the rattling, but will not be deterred by it.

Greene: If we don't consider others, then we do exactly what we've always done, made pointless enemies. We need to work with these countries to achieve what we want, rather than seeing them as a static "bad". Every nation wants something when it goes to the table, and we need to see where our interests are similar and where we differ. 

Fischer: Representative, I'm sure you remember what happened the last time the United States removed a Middle Eastern dictator. We got locked in a war that lasted almost a decade, killed over 4,000 and wounded almost 32,000, and cost the taxpayer $2 trillion, only for the entire region to destabilize and allow groups like ISIS to rise up and take power. As for Russian, America shouldn't appease them, but we shouldn't provoke them either.

Bennett: I am very aware what happen when we went into Iraq- and fully understand the reluctance to take a stand- but unlike Saddam, Assad is using chemical warfare. And "shouldn't provoke them"?! They literally invaded a nation, sending submarines into Swedish waters, flying jets over Scotland, and carpet bombing Syrian cities- which is causing our refugee crisis. They are provoking the world. In your eyes, Governor, how should the US handle Russia- and her aggression?

Fischer: Well, Representative, responding to provocation with a stronger response than the provocation itself is the literal definition of conflict escalation. Russia is trying to claw its way to superpower status once again, though it will never reach it while that kleptocrat Putin is in charge. We should attempt to be diplomatic with Russia, which is why the UN plays a key role in the foreign policy of a Fischer Administration, and I believe that sanctions should be our response, not sending American troops into the Middle East to die in pointless wars. When Russia does things to provoke America, they're attempting to elicit a response because being in conflict with the United States fuels a sense of nationalism in Russia that strongmen like Putin find desirable. Thus, I wouldn't give Russia the response they want, I'd give them one that hurts their already-tanking economy.

America has played the world's policeman for too long, and what've we gotten out of it? Defeat in Korea, defeat in Vietnam, and "victories" in Iraq and Afghanistan that ended up making the region worse than it was when we went in.

Bennett: You are obviously forgetting that the Western Europe has been stable since 1947. No global war since then. The US has insured that Japan and Korea can have friendly economic relations, despite their past. I'm for sanctions, seeing their global clout shrink: no longer a member of the G8; but this does not answer the question? What do we do with Syria?

Fischer: Representative Bennett, when did I imply Western Europe was unstable? The reasons for its stability is largely the European Union and the UN, not US military intervention. And of course promoting peace and diplomacy between previous enemies is important, with Japan and South Korea being a sterling example of that. But bringing up Japan and Korea is irrelevant because we didn't topple either nations' leader, install our own, and then occupy their country, we simply encouraged diplomacy between the two nations. No one died, and no tax money was wasted.  In Syria, we should continue arming rebels and conducting targeted bombing raids (though we should take care to avoid civilian casualties), and as for refugees, we need to accept many, many more, after vetting them all thoroughly, of course.

Bennett: I was just clarifying, since you almost implied that US foreign involvement has been in less than decisive wars. I feel we can debate circles around each other all day, but I think we will have to agree to disagree when it comes to Syria. 

Fischer: It's a disagreement on which anywhere from several hundred thousand to several billion lives could depend.

Greene: Yes, I think that we have reached an impasse here. Can we just move on? 

Mod: It seems like no one has any new points to make, so lets move on to another topic.  I am sure many college aged students are interested in hearing about your policy when it comes to education, specifically higher education.  What are your plans, how would they help, and how would the government pay for them if money is needed?

Fischer: Good question! My plan makes in-state colleges and universities tuition free for anyone whose total household income is less than $125,000 annually. Single parents who put themselves through college will get a tax credit. As for student loans, I'd slash interest rates, allow for refinancing, and forgive remaining debt after 20 years if payments are made regularly. All of this would be completely paid for by a combination of new tax brackets on the super-rich and eliminating unnecessary federal spending.

Greene: I will make public and community colleges free for anyone who can't make more than $100k per year, with lowered interest rates for folks with unsubsidized loans. Also, if you declare bankruptcy, college loans should act like all other loans, rather than staying for life. Lower down, I feel that attempting to funnel every child into college is a mistake, as not all jobs require a diploma, and it puts stresses on the university system that it isn't built for. Additionally, it makes young adults who decided to go into skilled labor positions through apprenticeship such as welders, electricians and plumbers seem like failures, even as they earn far more than a degree in liberal arts or some other field where it is difficult to find jobs. College prices are still subject to supply and demand, and we have been inflating demand for decades, leaving a glut of diplomas that don't have a use. Simply put; common core is, among its other failures, raising the cost of college while making degrees worth less. 

Bennett: I would call for students have the ability to refinance their loans. Then impose a two year freeze on tuition for the next two years.  Now we also need to address that the students of today's universities are far different than the universities of the 50's; many work full-time and balance a family. Now we need to create more incentives for universities to offer online courses. And we need, need, need to hold for profit universities accountable if they commit fraud. Now universities should be tuition free for households with 100K or less. We can fund this with a .5% on stock trades done within the US.

Greene: I agree with you on the .5% stock trade tax, which would help slow down automated trading and give the little guys, who can't afford these systems, a chance. It will also help avoid flash crashes without using heavy restrictions by naturally slowing down the stock trading by making slower, more thoughtful trading more profitable. 

Mod: Now, state universities are run and funded by the states.  What will be done in regards to the states if you are to push your plans through?

Greene: Any mandate I give to the states will have funding attached, so state universities won't have to foot the bill, while the students in question will still need to apply for this financial aid, think of it as an enhanced version of our current system.

Fischer: I would do the same as Senator Greene. No unfunded mandates, and it'd be opt-in.

Weathers: I believe that we should make any public college free be it 2 or 4 year colleges. Up to 80,000 dollars worth of credits per student to use on tuition and supplies needed. As I've stated before we are an extremely well off country and we have the means to make it better in some aspects, one of those being is college. We are being surpassed by other countries when it comes to college graduation percentages. I have talked to many people in the past few weeks that have stated that one of the main reasons they don't go to school or a school of their choice is because of their finances and the college is too expensive for them. Let's change this we need to help our future generation get the education and tools that they need. And regarding to the state universities I agree with both Sen. Greene and Gov. Fischer.

Greene: I don't believe that just giving students money is the right answer when it comes to for profits, as we have seen before, many of them price gouge and act as degree mills, failing to adequately prepare students for jobs, and charging to the point of fraud. Take any number of for profits that advertise extensively to suck students in, charge exorbitant, and often hidden fees, and keep students by threatening to make them lose all of their progress by not transferring credits, and finally, offer substandard coursework that hands students easy As, before throwing them into the world unprepared, with a degree most companies don't recognize, in six figures of debt. Government funding should not go towards these barely legal con-artists, and we should tighten the restrictions on the level of transparency that is needed to become a university, even possibly licensing non-state universities. 

Mod: What are your tax plans, and how will they help the economy and the average American?

Greene: When a business makes profit, they never say "gee golly gosh, I'd better give my workers a raise" No. They keep much if not all of it for themselves, which is why a progressive tax system is needed, because few if any of the top 1% Americans want to give back. We need to eliminate tax loophole, and add a constantly progressive system that is calculated based on a curve rather than a bracket, such that nobody can use the "I didn't want to move up a bracket" excuse. Every dollar moves your tax up a tiny amount, but nothing too large, so as to leave those who work harder still better off, this would give the government a touch money to put towards paying down our debt, keep the poor alright, and not discourage work. The computerized curve will also reduce the paperwork your average American goes through.

Mod: So, would there be a formula for determining someone's tax owed based on their income?

Greene: Yes, It would be an upward sloping curve, with rate depending on income, and never exceeding 50%, while those who make 20k or less need not pay, as they need every cent they make. The exact formula has not been decided, since it is vitally important to get right. We should also distinguish business size by income so as not to hit the small mom and pop general stores the same way we tax the massive superstores, which can afford it.

Fischer: Well, for income tax, anyone making less than $100K gets a tax cut. Those making from $100K-200K have get a very slight increase. The $200K-$1M tax bracket is 40%, the $1M-$5M rate is 55%, and anything above $5,000,000 is taxed at 70%. Under this plan, the lower and middle classes get relief while the upper class pays their fair share! As for capital gains, it's tied to your income. If you make $100K or under, the tax rate is 0%. It goes up by 15 percentage points for each bracket, maxing out at 60% if you make more than five million dollars. All businesses making less than a million dollars a year will see their tax rates slashed significantly, with an almost 50% cut for those making less than $100K annually. Businesses making from $1M-$10M will have their tax rates unchanged. $10M-$15M will see their taxes raised to 40%, and any income higher than $15M will be taxed at 50%. My tax plan helps out the little guy, the average American, the mom-and-pop shop, while making the rich pay what they should.

Weathers: My income tax plan is similar to Gov. Fisher's but the numbers are different. With anyone making less than 50k getting a tax cut while 51-500k the tax is 35% 501k-5m the bracket is 55% and 5m+ is 60%. 

Mod: Let's move on to some social issues.  Do you support the death penalty and when should it be used?

Fischer: *laughs, smiles* Let's see if I can give a better answer than Mike Dukakis. *serious face* But in all seriousness, I absolutely do not support the death penalty in any scenario, for several reasons. 1) Like torture, it's cruel and inhumane. It's shameful that we have state-sponsored murder in this country. 2) It gives criminals an easy way out. Life sentencing forces criminals to think about what they've done for decades, a just punishment. 3) The death penalty costs taxpayers significantly more than life in prison. America shouldn't follow an "eye for an eye" model of punishment; what is this, Hammurabi's Babylon?! We should abolish the death penalty.

Mod: You mentioned state sponsored murder, but what makes something murder in your opinion?

Fischer: Murder is when you kill someone without valid excuse; I don't feel like killing someone because they committed a crime is a valid excuse, especially because, as Sen. Greene stated, there is a significant margin of error.

Bennett: Murder is when a man's life is taken without his consent. Clear and simple.

Fischer: I agree completely on all points

Greene: I agree with what he just said. It is a lesser punishment than life in prison with nothing to do but think of your crimes. Another issue that the Governor didn't bring up is the possibility of a wrongful execution. It is estimated that our court system has a two per cent error rate, and we see people released after ten years due to new evidence. This could not be done under the death penalty, all we could do is tell the family of the accused that we murdered daddy for nothing, not "papa is home, and innocent". Conservatives are very prominent in calling abortion murder, then ignore wrongful execution. It's a darn shame how many people we execute too. We are fifth in the world on the list of nations by elections, with good company in the top five with China, Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia ahead of us. Wonderful company to keep. 

Mod: You brought up abortion.  But, Conservatives would say that abortion is killing an innocent human being while the death penalty is killing a convicted criminal that violated the rights of someone else.  What would your response to that be?

Greene: My response would be that many liberals do not see a fetus as a full human, with all that entails, while someone convicted of a crime is a human, and is quite possibly innocent. The realization that a human is innocent, even when it comes afterwards, is still the same, and is much more crushing when that person has a birthday, a life, and a family. 

Fischer: While I personally oppose abortion, I respect that not everyone shares that feeling, and that the definition of when one become human is still debated.

Bennett: I agree, I too share a view that opposes abortion. However, I on good conscience cannot restrict the woman's right to privacy with a doctor.

Bennett: I'm from the state of Texas- a state that has executed more men than any other state in the nation- and the death penalty is burden for the nation. From a fiscal sense, a moral sense, and it does not deter crime.  So much money is wasted into the pretrials, the trials, and the various appeals. In Maryland, it cost the state over 160 million dollars to execute 5 men. And in Nevada, public defenders spent more time, by a ratio, of 2 to 1 defending inmates on death row to other cases.  This is a huge drain on our fiscal and legal resources, mainly over one man- in many cases with death row.  We hear far too often of inmates on death row that have been wrongfully executed. I remember hearing the old Pope- Benedict- calling for the Governor of Georgia to pardon this man named Troy Davis as his hour to be executed loomed near. Even a Former FBI director looked at the evidence of that case and concluded that there is no way that Davis can be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. In my state, I joined the protest demanding the pardoning of Lestor Brown, a man whom fell victim of corroborated stories- and would have to pay the price of their lives.  And when look at the number of appeals, and monetary resources spent on the inmates; it is no surprise that many would fight, since odds are that they are as innocent as Mr. Davis or Mr. Brown. It is just morally wrong, how can one preach, "Turn to the other cheek" and then use this as punishment? How does the death penalty deter crime? While the state of Texas executed men at a far larger rate than the other states in the nation, our drop in crime was comparable to the others- proving that even without executing more than Montana, or Ohio, our crime will still drop as a collective whole. If we want to end crime, we need to create an environment where one shouldn’t have to commit crimes: removing poverty, and building community trust. As mayor of Fort Worth, I worked hard to improve the relations between the police department and the various minority communities that are in my city. Worked hard to insure that officers that are patrolling the neighborhood were from that area, so they could understand the culture, and build a bond with the citizens. All of which you can't do with the death penalty. You can kill a man with an injection, but it does not take away the environmental factors that caused the man to commit those crimes in the first place. 

Mod: We are running out of time, but we have time for one more question.  What is your position on marijuana?

Greene: It is no more harmful to the body than tobacco, and alcohol, and has many fewer effects to people close to the user. I hold that an abusive alcoholic is worse than a hungry stoner. People who smoke marijuana should be under the same restrictions as alcohol when it comes to driving, but I don't see any reason why it should be illegal.  Additionally, every dollar of legal marijuana is a dollar not going to dangerous and violent drug cartels. It is also a luxury that can be taxed without harming anyone who can't afford it, an optional tax, so to speak. 

Bennett: Who cares if someone wants to smoke a joint or not? It is their right to privacy if they want to. Not only do I agree with Sen Greene, I believe the US should right a wrong and commute the sentences of those in prison on marijuana related charges.

Fischer: I agree with Senator Greene and Congressman Bennett, marijuana is not as harmful as alcohol and as such should not be illegal. It may also have positive effects on people who have seizures or other medical problems, and if it were legalized, its benefits could be researched further. I would impose a 25% tax on recreational marijuana, from which medical marijuana and marijuana used for research would be exempt.

Weathers: Marijuana should be decriminalized but not legalized for recreational use. Also medical marijuana needs to be researched more.

Mod: Thank you candidates.  We have time for closing statements.

Bennett: Thank you for this debate, and your steady moderating. It is clear tonight, that we have all laid out our vision for America, even though there were topics we all wished we could discuss. But, America has seen what the Democratic has to offer. We might have small disagreements on some issues and how to implement certain policies; but the Democratic Party has shown itself to be the party of the people. From the Rio Grande Valley to the far off islands of Hawaii.

Greene: Thank you for having us, we seem to not have too many differences, except for the details of what we want to do. Been a pleasure debating with you, and goodnight.

Weathers: Thank you all. I want to take this short amount of time to say from the bottom of my heart that I would not be here today if it wasn't from ya'll. I also want to thank my husband Francis, and my daughter Sonya. God bless you, and God bless the US of A.

Fischer: I want to thank all the other candidates on this stage with me tonight for being civil and for making this debate heavy on substance.  To the viewers at home: you've seen several similar visions for America tonight, though there are key differences. This country needs a new generation of leadership, ready to take what's been done in the past eight years and push it further, truly pulling America into the twenty-first century. We need to join every other first world nation in guaranteeing healthcare as a right to all people, providing paid family and sick leave to everyone, making sure everyone has the opportunity to achieve heir educational goals, and forcing the rich to pay their fair share of taxes. We must also protect America from attacks like those in Paris and San Bernardino, and we must protect our interests abroad without being the world's policemen. We need an immigration policy that's more compassionate and easier to navigate.  There's much work to be done, but it can be done, and I'm the one to do it. If you share my values, come out and vote for me in the primaries. I'll fight for you to the very end, and together we'll build an America we'll be proud to hand down to our children. Join me!

Mod: Thank you for participating.  And to the viewers, thank you for watching the first Democratic debate.  Good night.


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Sen. Jackson Swings through Virginia

Sen. Jackson had stops in Roanoke, Lynchburg, Norfolk, Richmond, and Charlottesville over 2 days.  In Lynchburg, he spoke at Liberty University’s convocation before his main event in the city, and in Charlottesville, he spoke to students at the University of Virginia after his main event.  He spoke about terrorism and the economy.  At Liberty, he spoke about his faith and how it influences him.  At the University of Virginia, he spoke about the importance of the younger generation for the future of the Country and the importance of voting.

To Liberty: “As you all know, I am a committed Christian. Christ is at the center of my life, and I hope to keep it that way.  My faith has some influence on my positions.  I am committed to protecting the lives of the unborn.  We must protect those who cannot defend themselves.  Thousands of innocent babies are killed every year due to the horrible practice of abortion.  As President, I will appoint judges that would reverse Roe v. Wade.  I have held this position all of my life and part of the reason I hold this beliefs is because of my faith.  Some may think that it is hard to stay committed to Christ in the political arena, but that is not the case.  If you try hard enough, like I have, it is actually pretty easy to stay committed to your faith.  Make sure that you know what you believe and have evidence to use as backup if you are challenged.  And remember the end goal.  Even if you face trials on Earth, the reward of living with Christ for all of eternity is worth it.”

After his events, Sen. Jackson met with his audiences.  Then, he flew to Massachusetts.

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Taped Town Hall Immigration Debate in Cedar Rapids, IA


Sandy-- I want to tank everyone for supporting this and I want to thank you Sen. Jackson for agreeing to this, and to the people of course for allowing us to get up here today to talk about some very important issues. I agree with Sen. Jackson that we need to be hiring more people for beefed up security, but that won't completely stop the drug issue. We need to increase jail time for drugs that are not marijuana and for marijuana we need to decriminalize. There is no reason to be putting ordinary citizens that like to get high every once in a while behind bars with rapists and murderers. But we need to step it up and help Mexico out with the war on drugs. That is where most of the drugs are coming from. Building a wall like the Republicans are suggesting will only hinder the drug trade for a few months to maybe a year while they reorganize and find a new way in. We need to help cut the snake off at the head. Joaquín Guzmán escaped and is now back distributing drugs. If we had him in a more stable facility maybe we could have kept him locked up longer than a year and maybe even got information on his buddies.


Moderator-- Any Response?


Jackson-- I agree that we can do something to help the Mexicans stop or slow down the drug trade.  Our intelligence services could work together, and we could make sure that drug dealer are put and stay in prison.  Regarding a wall, the more ways of getting drugs into the country, the better off we will be.  A wall would limit some of their options which would help border patrol and local authorities focus on the other routes.


Moderator-- More on that, do either of you feature plans with what to do with those already addicted to drugs?


Jackson-- This will require cooperation between the federal government and the states.  First off, I want to work with states to try and make sure that there is enough funding going to rehab facilities to help people who have gotten hooked on drugs.  I would also like to legalize marijuana which would not only hurt the drug cartels, but it would also generate massive amounts of income which could be used for things like rehab.  Plus, it would free up prisons so we could prioritize the really bad people.  If we can get these people back on their feet through rehab, it would really help in the battle against drug addiction.  Plus, it would further hurt the financial stability of the cartels.


Sandy--  I disagree with the Senator. I believe in allowing the states to decide weather or not to legalize marijuana I do not in my opinion believe that the drug should be legalized, but it has proven no severe side effects and does not hinder performance. On the rehab issue I stated back in New Hampshire that my plan is to create a nationwide anti drug rehab program. We should be treating drugs as an addiction and not a crime. Many people on hard drugs are hopelessly addicted and sentencing them to prison won't solve it. Instead we need to supply them with the means to help cure their addiction and to come above the influence. 


Jackson-- Marijuana is on par with cigarettes and alcohol.  It is not dangerous plus the legalization of cannabis would allow for the production of hemp.  Hemp was legalized in my home state and has many economic advantages.  It can be used for things such as paper which would help lower the paper costs for our schools.  Its legalization would also provide a great benefit for the medical field.  Medical marijuana can be a very useful tool in medicine, and I think we should pursue these advantages.  But, lets hear some more questions from the crowd and continue this town hall on immigration.


Sandy-- I agree that we need to look into medical marijuana, but not legalizing it nationwide. Yes lets move on.


Moderator-- Moving on then, how would you propose to deal with those immigrants already here?


Jackson--  If you are referring to illegal immigrants, we need to make sure that they leave the country and attempt to come back the LEGAL way.  Sanctuary cities must have their funding cut in order to protect American citizens.  We also need to ban the use of government assistance for illegals and establish things like a mandatory e-verify system.  This would make it so businesses verify that an employee is here legally before they hire them.  This will help cut off the flow of money to illegals which will remove the motivation for potential illegals.  ICE will also help in the process.  They will capture illegals and bring them in for deportation.  To replace lost labor, we need to establish a guest worker program that would allow foreigners to come work in the US if there is a job shortage.  These solutions would incentivize legal immigration while punishing those who do not follow the law.


Moderator-- Aren't you concerned that this process might be expensive?


Jackson--  It will take some money, but ICE has money to use every year.  Also, the point of cutting off money from illegals is to try and incentivise self deportation.  If they do not have any money, then they could not live in the US which will force them to leave.


Moderator-- That would be fair, paychecks hit hardest, after all. And you, Sandy?


Sandy--  As I have stated before we need to help legalize the good acting immigrants. We are a country based off of immigration. It would be just wrong to send them back to where they came from. A significant majority are just ordinary people trying to make a living. We also need to speed up the citizenship process and simplify it.


Jackson--  Yes, we are a country build upon immigration, but it was LEGAL immigration.  People come here need to follow the process.  Otherwise, it is just anarchy.  We are a nation of laws and people must follow those laws if they want to have the privilege of coming to this great country.  And, it is a privilege not a right for someone to come.


Sandy-  We have had a closed door policy in the past and we have discriminated and put immigrants legal and illegal in compromising positions. Without immigration we would definitely be in a different world. We owe it to the world to allow them to see and feel what a true champion for freedom is. Immigration even illegal is supported by Religion. You see it in Exodus 22:21 in which it says "You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt." In Leviticus 19:33–34 it says "When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God." And finally in Matthew 25:35  For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me." Former President Ronald Reagan a hero for the conservative right believed in amnesty for illegal immigrants.


*Moderator begins to feel and look hopeless, as the debate spirals out of control*


Jackson-  Democrats continue to try and falsely use the Bible to support illegal immigration.  No one in this race is proposing the total closure of borders.  My plan lets people come in and work if those workers are needed.  Republicans are proposing that we enforce the law.  The Bible supports following the law if it is not in conflict with Christian principles.  Romans 12: 1-7 says, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed."  And, just because someone is a great leader does not mean that they are perfect or correct on all the issues.  President Reagan was wrong on this issues.  But, the Democrats in Congress promised to secure the border if amnesty passed.  But, that was just another empty promise.


Moderator-- *Tries to assert himself*  Whether or not there be biblical basis, our nation was built on secular laws, not bible verses. How does our legal history stack up with our current policy?


Jackson--  Dwight D. Eisenhower initiated a massive push to deport the people who were her illegally, and it was largely a success.  We have been deporting people who come here illegally since restrictions were put into place.  This is because policies have been based on following the law.  While amnesty was given in the past, it was a huge disaster that just led to more illegal immigration.  The border has been talked about for 30 years, but nothing has ever been done about it.  That must change.  We must secure the border,and we must make sure those who should not be here leave the country.  Amnesty just incentives illegal immigration and hurts people who are trying to come through the process the LEGAL way.  It is terribly unfair to legal immigrants who have to compete with illegals for jobs.  It is terribly unfair to poorer regions because they must compete for jobs with illegals.


Sandy--  We have people like Sen. Jackson who will be adamantly against illegal immigration, but what if the illegal immigration was coming from the north? What if we had Canadians immigrating like our southern neighbors across our borders? You would hear nothing from the right and the Republicans. They for some reason have this mindset that illegal immigration has nothing good to offer. A side note that the number of illegal immigration peaked in 2007 and has since decreased by almost a million. 


Jackson--  That is a complete lie.  I do not care where illegals are coming from.  They should go back and follow the process.  Not all illegals come from south of the US.  Some come from Asia, and I am sure that there are some that come from Europe as well.  We must not look at skin color or ethnicity to determine if someone should be deported or not.  We should look to see if they broke the law.  Illegals take jobs away from legal immigrants, poorer people and regions, and the black community.  We must help the inner cities, but illegals make it harder for residents of the inner cities to find quality jobs.  They also send lots of money back to their home country which means that that money is not being spend on the American economy.


*Moderator now watches hopelessly as his control over the debate spirals into the great beyond*


Sandy-  Well we need to put into place a way to tax the illegal population and give them incentives to be using their money here. And what you're referring to rarely happens. But if they do send their money back home how is that a problem? You have people, big bankers, and business men who send their money to their offshore Swiss bank accounts. If they are sending money back home it is probably to help their family back home.


Jackson-- If there are any more questions from the people, I would be glad to take them.  The reason I agree to this town hall was to take questions from the people.  I want to hear the concerns of the American people because that is what our system is build upon.


*somebody in the crowd loudly and repeatedly sneezes, allowing the moderator to hastily step in and regain command*

Moderator--  "that's all the time we have, goodnight" 


Jackson--  Thank you for having me


Sandy-- Thank you all!




OOC: Check your spelling, I try to correct errors, but I can't get them all.

The Moderator cried himself to sleep that night, and will need to see a therapist.

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