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Who would you like to see run in 2020?

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Democrats:

Martin O'Malley: I'm long felt the #O'Malleymentum, and he's technocratic run as governor coupled with his centrist fiscal tendencies and liberal social stances made me yearn for him to pick up steam in the 2016 Democratic primaries. I feel he would add a more intelligent, less personality driven aspect to the primaries even if he doesn't become the frontrunner at any point. I feel that he could dominate the Midwest if he had ever made it that far, and made strong appeals to the white working class. Noting that he was also the mayor of Baltimore three times, he may be able to gain the support of African Americans as well. 

Jim Webb: Webb is definitely an older style Democrat, and I admire his ability to see what's right and wrong with both major parties. His views on gun ownership, prison reform, and budgeting could provide a much needed debate in what has become an echo chamber. I would expect him to rack up a lot of support in the southern Democratic states, but not much else unless he really became a much bigger figure on the national stage. 

Andrew Cuomo: This one is fairly obvious. Cuomo is incredibly qualified and centrist (though he has made attempts to come off as more liberal in recent times). Cuomo would be a frontrunner, and a very strong chance at becoming the eventual nominee if the public opinion on Trump is that "outsiders are bad". He could play very well to minorities and win where it counts. 

Elizabeth Warren: She is the fiery progressive of the bunch. I can't say that I have a fiercely positive opinion of her, as she tends to come off as immature, but there are many things she could add to the race. She would raise the profile of campaign reform, the minimum wage, treatment of minorities, and continue the revolution that Bernie started. She would have a real chance of becoming the nominee. 

Republicans: 

(I will edit in later)

Note: These are just who I would want to run, not who I think will. 

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Of those you mention, I'd only want Warren. I'd also like Booker or Sherrod Brown. I'm sort of hoping someone new shows up by 2018. Someone Progressive, bold, but not likely to turn away moderates--basically Sherrod Brown, but younger and more energetic. I can't think of anyone off hand. 

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@vcczar

 

I wouldn't necessarily like them all to be president, but I think that they'd add a lot of good discussion to the field. Say what you may about the Republican field this year, but it had politicians of every position of the right side of the spectrum, and there was a healthy discussion about a wide variety of issues. 

Clinton vs Sanders was passionate, but at the same time, it didn't have as many fronts/faces to it. It was the Democratic Socialist vs the Corrupt Centrist, and there was very little discourse from Wall Street, college, and the minimum wage, with foreign policy catching the attention of the least amount of voters. I just felt like I was left out of what could have been a party to unite the electorate, but they didn't offer the same variety and flexibility of the Republican field, which other than Trump had a lot of depth to it and it's debated issues. 

In general, while I admired Sanders, I just found the Republicans to host a far healthier discussion when they weren't talking about the size of their genitals. I want a better field for Democrats in 2020. 

Thoughts?

@Patine @jvikings1 @Conservative Elector 2@Reagan04

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Democrats:

Sherrod Brown 

Joaquin Castro

John Bel Edwards

Amy Klobuchar

Elizabeth Warren

Republicans: 

John Kasich

Ted Cruz

Jon Huntsman 

Susan Collins

Susana Martinez

 

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Here's a list of Democrats that I can see running in 2020:

Chris Murphy- Sen from CT.
Pros: Young. Fairly charasmatic.  An active senator fighting for working families and minoriites by fighting for: criminal justice reform, raising the min. wage, fighting for abortion rights, and is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Cons: Noted for the long 'filibuster' on Gun Control shortly after the Orlando night club shooting, which can hurt him in many rural communities.

Elizabeth Warren: A darling in the progressive wing of the Democratic party.
Cons: Very little experience outside of the finance industry. 

Tammy Duckworth: Sen from IL

Steve Bullock: Gov of Montana

Pro: a centrist from a red state, showing the ability to compromise.

Con: might be to right leaning in a party moving more to the left.

 


 

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Democrats:

  • Joe Kennedy III
  • Elizabeth Warren

If Kennedy and/or Warren ran then I wouldn't really care all that much who else ran, as I would definitely be supporting one of them.  However, if neither of them ran, I wouldn't mind seeing Sherrod Brown, Wesley Clark, Bill de Blasio, Tulsi Gabbard, Alan Grayson, Michelle Obama, or Marty Walsh giving it a shot, even though half of them have no chance of running.

Republicans:

  • Charlie Baker
  • John Kasich
  • Rand Paul
  • Jon Huntsman
  • Mark Cuban

 

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For the Republicans I only expect Trump's reelection campaign. A major challenger for an incumbent president from the same party is in my humble opinion very unfair...

For the Democrats:

Al Gore

Joe Biden

Martin O'Malley

Steve Bullock

Maggie Hassan

Martin Heinrich

Those came to my mind and some were not mentioned yet I think. If I were a Democrat, I'd most likely vote for Biden or Gore in the primaries.

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21 minutes ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

For the Republicans I only expect Trump's reelection campaign. A major challenger for an incumbent president from the same party is in my humble opinion very unfair...

For the Democrats:

Al Gore

Joe Biden

Martin O'Malley

Steve Bullock

Maggie Hassan

Martin Heinrich

Those came to my mind and some were not mentioned yet I think. If I were a Democrat, I'd most likely vote for Biden or Gore in the primaries.

But Gore and Biden will be ancient by 2020. Like Adenauer of West Germany-type age if I'm not mistaken (at least when he was running, as he's long dead now).

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I know :( But Biden at least does not rule it out yet.

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On 17/11/2016 at 2:17 AM, CalebsParadox said:

Democrats:

Martin O'Malley: I'm long felt the #O'Malleymentum, and he's technocratic run as governor coupled with his centrist fiscal tendencies and liberal social stances made me yearn for him to pick up steam in the 2016 Democratic primaries. I feel he would add a more intelligent, less personality driven aspect to the primaries even if he doesn't become the frontrunner at any point. I feel that he could dominate the Midwest if he had ever made it that far, and made strong appeals to the white working class. Noting that he was also the mayor of Baltimore three times, he may be able to gain the support of African Americans as well. 

Jim Webb: Webb is definitely an older style Democrat, and I admire his ability to see what's right and wrong with both major parties. His views on gun ownership, prison reform, and budgeting could provide a much needed debate in what has become an echo chamber. I would expect him to rack up a lot of support in the southern Democratic states, but not much else unless he really became a much bigger figure on the national stage. 

Andrew Cuomo: This one is fairly obvious. Cuomo is incredibly qualified and centrist (though he has made attempts to come off as more liberal in recent times). Cuomo would be a frontrunner, and a very strong chance at becoming the eventual nominee if the public opinion on Trump is that "outsiders are bad". He could play very well to minorities and win where it counts. 

Elizabeth Warren: She is the fiery progressive of the bunch. I can't say that I have a fiercely positive opinion of her, as she tends to come off as immature, but there are many things she could add to the race. She would raise the profile of campaign reform, the minimum wage, treatment of minorities, and continue the revolution that Bernie started. She would have a real chance of becoming the nominee. 

Republicans: 

(I will edit in later)

Note: These are just who I would want to run, not who I think will. 

Why would O'Malley (who as you say is a technocrat) be a good choice for appealing to the 'white working-class' when the Democratic Party's problems with the 'white working-class' are largely based on its embrace of technocracy?

Webb is only noteworthy for his 2016 run and his victory in the tipping point race of the 2006 senate elections. If there's a candidate from that tendency of the party then it should be John Bel Edwards or even Joe Manchin.

Cuomo...no, just no. Personifies everything that is wrong with the current Democratic Party - dull, technocratic, basically has the policies of conservative parties of Europe. Trump (or whoever the Republicans nominate) would be a better choice for teachers than Cuomo... 

Warren is overrated but probably the best of this bunch.  

 

 

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Please no O'Malley.._.

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3 hours ago, RFK/JFKfan said:

Why would O'Malley (who as you say is a technocrat) be a good choice for appealing to the 'white working-class' when the Democratic Party's problems with the 'white working-class' are largely based on its embrace of technocracy?

Webb is only noteworthy for his 2016 run and his victory in the tipping point race of the 2006 senate elections. If there's a candidate from that tendency of the party then it should be John Bel Edwards or even Joe Manchin.

Cuomo...no, just no. Personifies everything that is wrong with the current Democratic Party - dull, technocratic, basically has the policies of conservative parties of Europe. Trump (or whoever the Republicans nominate) would be a better choice for teachers than Cuomo... 

Warren is overrated but probably the best of this bunch.  

 

 

I'd like Sherrod Brown. He's a progressive and he appeals to a lot of blue-collar workers here in Ohio.

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I expect Trump to be the leading Republican, and my vote for "want" originally goes to him anyways.

But lets just say it HAS to be someone other than him (Regardless of likelihood to actually run):

Donald Trump Jr.

Rudy Giuliani

Jeff Sessions

Ben Carson

Ted Cruz

Marco Rubio

Nikki Haley

Sarah Palin

 

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41 minutes ago, Jaster said:

I expect Trump to be the leading Republican, and my vote for "want" originally goes to him anyways.

But lets just say it HAS to be someone other than him (Regardless of likelihood to actually run):

Donald Trump Jr.

Rudy Giuliani

Jeff Sessions

Ben Carson

Ted Cruz

Marco Rubio

Nikki Haley

Sarah Palin

 

Donald Trump, Jr?!

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4 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Donald Trump, Jr?!

He's his son. As @Jaster stated regardless of likelihood it's actually possible. :D 

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11 minutes ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

He's his son. As @Jaster stated regardless of likelihood it's actually possible. :D 

I know who he is. I'm just surprised anyone would consider him as a 2020 candidate. 

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Ohhh that makes sense. I was really wondering that you wouldn't know that... :D Personally I don't consider him in 2020 but later definitely I think.

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

I know who he is. I'm just surprised anyone would consider him as a 2020 candidate. 

Yea, I personally would put his earliest bid for the presidency (Assuming he even tries) at 2028. I believe he stated (in response to some calls for him to run for mayor of NYC) that he doesn't want to run for any major political office before his kids are out of the house. In 2028 his youngest would be 16. But like I said, those picks were regardless of how likely/unlikely they are to actually run.

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@Jaster

Please, I know you think highly of him, but that avatar is really bugging me. Donald Trump is many things, but he is NOT remotely a well-decorated, apex-rank military officer, There hasn't been one elected as US President since Dwight D. Eisenhower, and none has serious made an electoral bid since Wesley Clark in 2004. Unless of course, you would fully be comfortable with, approve of, an even expect an egotistical, arbitrary, and dictatorial declaration of such a rank, like when Idi Amin Dada and Kin Jong Un unilaterally declared themselves instantly "promoted" to Field Marshal, and anyone who objected was executed, tortured, or sent to work camps to be punished for their temerity. But please, though I can't force you, for decency's sake, change to an avatar that TRULY represents Trump's actual achievements in a more appropriate way.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

@Jaster

Please, I know you think highly of him, but that avatar is really bugging me. Donald Trump is many things, but he is NOT remotely a well-decorated, apex-rank military officer, There hasn't been one elected as US President since Dwight D. Eisenhower, and none has serious made an electoral bid since Wesley Clark in 2004. Unless of course, you would fully be comfortable with, approve of, an even expect an egotistical, arbitrary, and dictatorial declaration of such a rank, like when Idi Amin Dada and Kin Jong Un unilaterally declared themselves instantly "promoted" to Field Marshal, and anyone who objected was executed, tortured, or sent to work camps to be punished for their temerity. But please, though I can't force you, for decency's sake, change to an avatar that TRULY represents Trump's actual achievements in a more appropriate way.

Uh...er...I never said I viewed him as some top military officer...? It's a satire thing.

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Another few I'd like to see run:

Mike Pence

Mike Huckabee

Newt Gingrich

 

 

By the way @Patine, I thought about what you said, and I decided, you're right. I should give him the level of respect he actually deserves and change my profile picture.

So I upgraded him. :^)

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1 hour ago, Jaster said:

 

 

By the way @Patine, I thought about what you said, and I decided, you're right. I should give him the level of respect he actually deserves and change my profile picture.

So I upgraded him. :^)

*shakes head sadly and weeps for the world*

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23 hours ago, Patine said:

*shakes head sadly and weeps for the world*

Now my "Fundamentalist Christian" aren't that bad are they.:P

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