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Just now, Skavau said:

Pornographic or at least sexualised nudity exists across the media in movies, video games, literature, music, art etc. You would necessarily, if you're consistent have to impose a huge media firewall which would involve the criminalisation of a whole host of things.

You banning fornication and masturbation in itself is highly totalitarian and would take a very highly funded police force that snooped in people's private affairs to enforce. You are not pro-freedom by any stretch of the imagination.

 

sir we are at an impasse it appears we cannot agree cannot we just get back on topic and stop wasting our energy. it has but a fun dispute however

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I am formally withdrawing from this debate and the one on the other thread on this subforum, not because I am conceding a single point, but because the tenor of the debate has descended into a futile loggerheads and I am physically weary of it.

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6 hours ago, Patine said:

Might I make a few suggestions on "Christian legislation" which you seem to have missed. First, unrestrained, unregulated corporatism and extremely low corporate tax and tax on the wealthy is very un-Christian, as Christ, in his personal ministry eschewed materialism, condemned greed, and showed disdain for the wealthy. Second, militarism and the 2nd Amendment are also very un-Christian, as Christ preached non-violence in his ministry and neither God nor Christ would endorse the 2nd Amendment, as it is just a statement of a right to own implements whose sole purpose is to break the commandment "Thou shalt not kill." Also, welfare, Social Security, nationalized healthcare, and such are not originally a Socialist idea but more in line with Christ's teachings, enjoining us to "shelter the homeless, feed the poor, heal the sick," and other such good works, and that being staunchly opposed to such, especially to instead facilitate the enrichment of corporations, is being staunchly against a major pillar of Christ's ministry. And finally, a hard-line judiciary to enforce morality-based legislation (or even what currently exists) goes against what Christ says when he says, "Judgement is for God alone," "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," "judge not lest ye be judged," and "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us," which very much says that God will judge everyone on Judgement Day and that judging others is not a mortal prerogative, but instead forgiveness is encouraged. I won't even touch upon things like not eating pork, shaving, cutting your hair, wearing tattoos and other things in the Bible many modern Christians also like to ignore conveniently.

This is one of the biggest lies that is thrown around in today's political world. Christ encouraged helping the poor. But, he did not say that the government should take people's money to give to the poor.  The Israelites took over the Promised Land with weapons.  They did not just walk in and start living there. Like previously stated, the fight to self defense is not the same as murder.  And, the Jews had laws that would be upheld by men.  The men would judge the person for their EARTHLY crime.  The judgement you are referring to is eternal judgement.  And, the a kot of the things that you mentioned at the end were Old Testament doctrines that were replaced when Christ came.

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Just now, jvikings1 said:

This is one of the biggest lies that is thrown around in today's political world. Christ encouraged helping the poor. But, he did not say that the government should take people's money to give to the poor.  The Israelites took over the Promised Land with weapons.  They did not just walk in and start living there. Like previously stated, the fight to self defense is not the same as murder.  And, the Jews had laws that would be upheld by men.  The men would judge the person for their EARTHLY crime.  The judgement you are referring to is eternal judgement.  And, the a kot of the things that you mentioned at the end were Old Testament doctrines that were replaced when Christ came.

 

Thank you my friend!

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Can I post my platform or has this turned into relgious debate poison? :)

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@TheMiddlePolitical

Just post it. I wish I could go in a delete all the off-topic stuff. 

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Here's my platform @CalebsParadox, @Patine, @Reagan04 @jvikings1 @TheMiddlePolitical @DallasD @Conservative Elector 2:

1) Which political party would you run under? 

Democrats. If I became a wildly popular president in my first term, then I'd consider creating the party that I wish I had run under, which would be the Progress Party. It's a 21st century update of the Progressive Parties of Roosevelt and La Follette.

2) What is your ideal party platform 

First of all assume that my platform will pretty much follow the standard Democratic Party platform, but I'll add the following changes to this platform: 

- Improve infrastructure, including creating a trans-national high speed rail system to compete with Europe and Asia. This project will create job opportunities for college grads, unemployed (including those on Welfare), and people looking for better work. In the long term, it will also be a money maker by improving commerce, transportation and tourism. 

- 100% student loan forgiveness after 10 years of payment. This would include income-based repayment plans. 

- Reform education to make it more affordable. Public universities will be free for families making less than $60,000 a year for four years. The entire tuition will be reimbursed for honors students, regardless of family income. 

- Tie the minimum wage to the currency, so that the minimum wage has the same purchasing power as it will have in the future. The new wage will be set at the beginning of each fiscal year.  

- Limited interventionist military policy. Warfare will be reserved for self-defense, as well as prevention of genocide or crimes against humanity if a legitimate coalition is built.  No more unilateral wars. 

- Officially end the drug war, but legalize only marijuana. 

- Creative incentives for companies of over 100 employees hiring 90% US residents. 

- Audit the Fed. 

- Create a scientific investigation at every fracking and offshore drilling site to check to see if each location is free from endangering human and environmental life. Also, research the connection between fracking and earthquakes. 

- Reduce defense budget and invest into infastructure, education, medical, science and technology, including NASA

- Make election day a public holiday; encourage secure online voting; reverse poll tax--tax day incentive for voting. 

- add gender identity to anti-discrimination laws

3) Who will you select as VP. Your advisers and party leaders recommend that you select someone within your party that is ideologically, regionally and, preferably, demographically different. They also want you to select someone that makes up for any weaknesses you may have in personality, age, experience, etc.  Lastly, they prefer you select governors or senators, but a governor or senator who will not be replaced by someone from the opposing party if they become your VP. 

I'd probably have to have someone like Tim Kaine, but I'd prefer Elizabeth Warren. 

4) Prior to the convention the party establishment and more populist base will force you to make concessions on your ideal platform. Additionally, for the general election, your advisers are recommending that you veer as much to the center as you can to win over independent centrists in what is expected to be a close election. Which issues from your ideal platform are you willing to alter to secure party harmony and to win the general election? (You must select at least three, but name all that you are willing to amend). 

I'll compromise on guns, foreign aid, and will compromise on how much I will reduce the defense/war budget. For centrist independents, I'll compromise on taxation, so long as I can find an alternative to pay for things I want to do. Most of that money I plan to get by cutting defense spending, especially money towards antiquated machines, bases and officers, etc. 

5) During your campaign in the general election, what will you promise to do in your first 100 days, if elected? (Note: both Houses of Congress are likely to be against you, as are most of the state governors). 

In the first 100 days, I will withdraw from all efforts to join TPP, and I will push to make Election Day a public holiday, as well as have the plans for the rest of my platform complete. I don't expect my first 100 days to be that active, since it is all preparation for many new things. 

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2 minutes ago, vcczar said:

- Audit the Fed. 

 

We may disagree on a lot of points but I completely agree and I think we should abolish the Fed and go back to the gold standard. 

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1 hour ago, Reagan04 said:

We may disagree on a lot of points but I completely agree and I think we should abolish the Fed and go back to the gold standard. 

Abolishing the Fed and going back to the Gold Standard would be disastrous. We had to get off the gold standard because backing it with gold made it so unrealiable. As Ron Swanson says in Parks and Recreation, when discussing that he only carries gold, and not cash or credit cards, "I don't know how much my gold is worth, but I know how much it weighs," something like that. There were many intelligent reasons why we got off the gold standards, and why we go onto fiat currency. I think only Mongolia has gold backed currency today. It's an archaic system. In the future, I don't see currency being backed by anything. You're pretty much just brings up a Libertarian talking point that isn't going to happen. It's also one of those things that I don't think a Libertarian would actually do once they got into office, lest they become the worst economic president in the history of the Western hemisphere. Most rational conservatives and liberals, as much as they hate the Fed, wish only to reform it and keep an eye on it, because they notice the importance of it. I'd wage over 2% of qualified national-level politicians would seriously approve of going back onto the gold standard. 

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Mongolia of recognized, de jure countries, but of de facto countries, the Islamic State has also issued gold and silver coinage as it's own currency, though much of that just gets smelted (a big problem for most currencies that were on the gold and silver standards).

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1) Which political party would you run under? 

Republicans

2) What is your ideal party platform

I go with the in game issues:

Abortion - Right
Govt Spending - Right
Education - Right
Energy - Right
Enviroment - Right
Guns - Far-Right
Health Care - Center (I'm a compassionate conservative here)
Immigration - Right
Defense - Right
Iran - Center-Right (I don't want to risk open war) 
Military - Right
Role of Government - Right
Free Trade - Far-Right 
Tax Rates - Right
Same sex marriage - Right
Social Security - Center Right (same reason like Health Care)
Unions - Right
War on terror - Right
Corruption - Right

3) Who will you select as VP. Your advisers and party leaders recommend that you select someone within your party that is ideologically, regionally and, preferably, demographically different. They also want you to select someone that makes up for any weaknesses you may have in personality, age, experience, etc.  Lastly, they prefer you select governors or senators, but a governor or senator who will not be replaced by someone from the opposing party if they become your VP. 

Top candidates for me are Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Tim Scott and Nikki Haley.

4) Prior to the convention the party establishment and more populist base will force you to make concessions on your ideal platform. Additionally, for the general election, your advisers are recommending that you veer as much to the center as you can to win over independent centrists in what is expected to be a close election. Which issues from your ideal platform are you willing to alter to secure party harmony and to win the general election? (You must select at least three, but name all that you are willing to amend). 

For example:

1) abortion: I would prefer a ban except for the life of the mother, but I could imagine to run on a center-right position here. Therefore I could accept abortions in the case of rape and incest as I know most centrist voters would vote for that more likely.

2) environment: Although I think the economy is more important than the environment yet, I could run with a platform based on sustainability and progress for environmental concerns tied up with market based solutions.

3) education: I could imagine to support low-income students to attend good colleges when their GPA is sufficient. Although, I strongly believe that government should be out of schools with their views. 

5) During your campaign in the general election, what will you promise to do in your first 100 days, if elected? (Note: both Houses of Congress are likely to be against you, as are most of the state governors). 

1) Establish good trade deals with Europe and other trusted leaders around the world

2) As vcczar said: audit the Fed

3) If I run in this year's election: get a proven conservative into the Supreme Court (Ted Cruz for example)

4) Trying to get government out of schools and to end indoctrination of certain views

5) Improve the US Army in order to fight terrorism around the world

6) I would also try to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges and Roe v. Wade in order to held referendums in all states, whether they want those laws applying in their state or not. I know that's highly unrealistic, but anyway that would be a good compromise for me and I guess my potential voters too. In addition I would attempt to defund Planned Parenthood immediately.

That's it for the first 100 days, as I would mainly focus on the things which come up and how to handle them. I wouldn't want to overreach myself. I would like to fix more things, but that would be my main plans for my 1st term. :)

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9 hours ago, vcczar said:

Abolishing the Fed and going back to the Gold Standard would be disastrous. We had to get off the gold standard because backing it with gold made it so unrealiable. As Ron Swanson says in Parks and Recreation, when discussing that he only carries gold, and not cash or credit cards, "I don't know how much my gold is worth, but I know how much it weighs," something like that. There were many intelligent reasons why we got off the gold standards, and why we go onto fiat currency. I think only Mongolia has gold backed currency today. It's an archaic system. In the future, I don't see currency being backed by anything. You're pretty much just brings up a Libertarian talking point that isn't going to happen. It's also one of those things that I don't think a Libertarian would actually do once they got into office, lest they become the worst economic president in the history of the Western hemisphere. Most rational conservatives and liberals, as much as they hate the Fed, wish only to reform it and keep an eye on it, because they notice the importance of it. I'd wage over 2% of qualified national-level politicians would seriously approve of going back onto the gold standard. 

 

Perhaps we shouldn't go back to the gold Standard I'm iffy on that one and I'll trust your opinion, But we need to Abolish the Fed as it is Unconstitutional and give the power back to the U.S. Treasury and state banks.

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I agree with most of what @Reagan04 says, but here is my full list:

Here's my full list of plans if I became President of the United States. Including issues, cabinet, bills, etc. I would run as a Republican.

Issues

Immigration: I would build a wall, and force Mexico to pay for it. I would put armed guards on that wall as well. I would limit immigration, and enact mass deportations of all illegal immigrants living in the United States. ALL immigrants would be forced to learn basic English, without government help. Refugees would pass tremendous background checks, and Muslim immigrants would not be accepted during times of recent terrorist attacks. I would also have a volunteer "Deportation Force", where citizens can join, and help deport illegal immigrants. There would be no amnesty.

Abortion: I oppose abortion in all forms, even in cases of rape and incest. I would outlaw it in all cases, except where the mother's life is at risk.

Gun Rights: I would fully support gun rights, and remove background checks on those purchasing the guns. I would also legalize fully-automatic weapons, however, those who purchase automatic weapons must have a permit to do so. I would also let soldiers carry weapons and some ammo on base.

Foreign Policy: I would cut off aid to most countries, except Israel. I would move the United Nations HQ from New York, to Jerusalem. I would befriend Russia, and not lend money to countries with bad credit. I would put tariffs on some countries.

Taxes: I would completely get rid of the ridiculous average income tax of 39%, and replace it with a flat tax capped at 27.25%, where everyone, regardless of how much money you make, pays 27.25%. This would simplify tax evasion, and such. I would get rid of the inheritance tax, capital gains tax, car tax, and gas tax. I would lower the Co2 tax to 3%, the property tax to 12%, and the business tax to 24%, and eliminate loopholes. I would create a junk food tax at 15%, an alcohol tax at 15%, and a cigarette tax at 20%. Literally, the only tax I would increase would be the sales tax. I would make it 15%. I would also abolish the IRS.

Healthcare: I would repeal Obamacare in its current form, and leave subsidized healthcare to the states. I would increase funding for healthcare vouchers, which would allow people to not only choose their doctor, but their own hospital as well. And it would still be cheap, but you're paying for your own healthcare, not everyone else's.

Welfare: I would decrease welfare spending 20%, and force those who receive benefits to do community service, or else their benefits will be terminated. I would do drug tests on anyone who goes to receive benefits, and if they test positive, their benefits are gone. I would decrease food stamp spending by 10%, but leave it in its current form. I would also enact a national anonymous welfare fraud hotline, where people can report welfare fraud.

Social Security: I wouldn't outright lower it, but I would privatize it, where seniors invest in their own, privately managed accounts.

Pensions: Pension spending is out of control. I would lower state pension spending by 50%, and let people invest in their own accounts.

Wages: I would encourage lowering the minimum wage from $7.25, to $6.75, but ultimately leave it up to the business itself. I would increase wages for working class, and middle class Americans.

Death Penalty: I would keep the death penalty. There would be no trial in cases of rape or murder if there is undeniable proof that the suspect did it. I would bring back hangings, and the firing squad. I would also build prison labor camps in Alaska, where people will serve life sentences working every single day. Instead of a judge deciding, I would let the victim's family decide the punishment.

Enhanced Interrogation: If we capture terrorists alive, then they will be sent to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and we will find out everything they know. I would sanction the use of waterboarding, and psychological interrogation techniques. Then, I will turn them over to a country, where they will be tried, and executed, if necessary.

Gay Marriage: I would reverse the Supreme Court order on gay marriage, and make it illegal again on the federal level. However, it is an important religious decision, and while I am firmly against it, I would leave it up to the churches.

Debt: Our debt is a problem. I would cut welfare, social security, and pensions. With my plans, I will have more wealthy Americans, which, in turn, will generate more profits from the income tax, as long as my plan works out. And it will, believe me.

Economy: In order to fix the economy, I would make more businesses. I would cut taxes on big businesses that subsidize, and start-up small businesses. I would also enact telecommuting alternatives, where people can work from home. If people want to start a business, I would give them a $35,000 business grant, to be paid back with no interest. I would get rid of idiotic requirements that make it hard to start a business, and make less-restrictive permit acquiring.

Poverty: In poverty-stricken neighborhoods, I would increase police presence. I would also have all of the welfare people who are not applied to a job, do community service in poverty neighborhoods, painting houses and such. Also, I would give tax cuts to big businesses that give money to neighborhoods to rebuild.

Crime and Safety: To combat domestic crime, I would give all police officers tasers, one pistol, ammo, and a sub-machine gun. Officers would travel in pairs, and would be armed with light-weight bulletproof vests, and one shotgun would be placed in squad cars. The states would pay for their police force, and this decision is up to them. However, if they don't meet the requirements, they would lose 10% of their infrastructure funding.

Environment: I really don't care about the environment. It's of my least concern, but since i'm going to subsidize oil and such, it may have an impact on the environment. Remember that community service I was talking about? Welfare-recipients would pick up trash on highways and such. Also, I would fund a federal doorway collection, where people pick up recycling stuff from people's homes.

Education: I would completely get rid of Common Core, and leave education the the state level. I would encourage them to teach to the student's potential, and make classrooms more interactive. If students dread going to school every day, there's something wrong with our education system. I would fund school vouchers so parents and students can choose their own, private school.

ISIS: I would declare war on ISIS, and carpet bomb the hell out of them. I would then send in a thousand ground troops to clean up the rest of them. Then I would then pull out of there, and leave it to the non-Islamic extremist Muslims to sort out.

North Korea: North Korea is a pathetic country. I would blockade them with our Navy, with support from our allies. I would keep them locked in their own country until they surrender. They wouldn't receive any armaments, since they're blockaded. After they surrender, I would clean out all nuclear weapons that they may posses, and force them to give up their military, like Japan.

Defense: I would keep all of our nuclear weapons, but never use them. I would increase military spending, and build our army so big, nobody will mess with us. Additionally, when every citizen turns 18, they will have to either do community service, or join the military, for at least two months. If they join the military, it would be more focused on skill development and education that fighting.

Veterans: I would put Veterans on the top of the list for receiving healthcare benefits. Enough said. I love our veterans.

Confederate Flag: I would support the Confederate Flag, and fly one at the White House.

Energy: I would increase funding for nuclear energy, and oil energy. I would eliminate funding for alternative energy, like solar, and wind, and instead let private companies invest in those.

President: Me (Republican)
Vice President: Marco Rubio (Republican)
Attorney General: Herman Cain (Republican)
Speaker of the House: Trey Gowdy (Republican)
Secretary of State: Ted Cruz (Republican)
Secretary of the Treasury: Carly Fiorina (Republican)
Secretary of Defense: James Mattis (Republican)
Secretary of Homeland Security: Ted Nugent (Republican)
Secretary of Justice: Allen B. West (Republican)
Secretary of the Interior: Kelly Ayote (Republican)
Secretary of Agriculture: Bobby Jindall (Republican)
Secretary of Commerce: Donald Trump (Republican)
Secretary of Labor: Sarah Palin (Republican)
Secretary of Health: Ben Carson (Republican)
Secretary of Housing: John Kasich (Republican)
Secretary of Transportation: Rick Santorum (Republican)
Secretary of Energy: Kevin Kirby (Republican)
Secretary of Education: Rand Paul (Republican)
Secretary of Veteran's Affairs: Jim Webb (Democrat)

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@ThePotatoWalrus

I don't think you read the prompt correctly. There's five questions included, and the scenario has your party in decline and with no control over Congress. What you'd be looking for is bipartisan promises and moving closer to the center for the general election. It's a fun scenario to imagine, I'm sure you'll have fun with the original questions :) 

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4 minutes ago, CalebsParadox said:

@ThePotatoWalrus

I don't think you read the prompt correctly. There's five questions included, and the scenario has your party in decline and with no control over Congress. What you'd be looking for is bipartisan promises and moving closer to the center for the general election. It's a fun scenario to imagine, I'm sure you'll have fun with the original questions :) 

Oops, I just clicked on the latest comment instead of the beginning of the thread. Hang on, lemme do this again, lol.

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Not that I ever would run for President if I had a chance of winning (I want to be a Federal Senator), but here it goes:

1. Republican Party
2.  http://www.isidewith.com/results/923930242
3. Bobby Jindal, since he's a moderate. Or Martin O'Malley, or Jim Webb, the only Democrats I liked.
4. Gay marriage, environment, net neutrality, energy, foreign policy
5. It's kind of dark, but I would elect Bernie Sanders to the Supreme Court (he's 74 - bound to die soon), in return for passing my tax plan. I would promise an altered version of a Federal Works Agency to replace my plan of welfare recipients doing hard labor, and use that in return for a stronger immigration reform.

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Just now, ThePotatoWalrus said:

We agree on 96% of the issues, I'm gonna compare. We're both 99% Conservative...

Ok see what we disagree on!

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Just now, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I support raising sales tax to lower property taxes. @Reagan04, you don't. Why not?

Well I'm not in favor of raising any taxes and plus sales tax is punishing consumerism, the beating heart of Capitalism which I cherish dearly.

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5 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

Well I'm not in favor of raising any taxes and plus sales tax is punishing consumerism, the beating heart of Capitalism which I cherish dearly.

I support a raised sales tax, over property tax to encourage real estate investment. You're obviously educated on this subject, possibly more so than me.

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Just now, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I support a raised sales tax, over property tax to encourage real estate investment. You're obviously educated on this subject, possibly more so than me.

I get that I'm not a very good compromiser with Liberals<_< I want to reduce both to spur both Real Estate Investment (LORD knows we need it) and reduced Sales to create consumerism which without you can't have an economy!

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4 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

I get that I'm not a very good compromiser with Liberals<_< I want to reduce both to spur both Real Estate Investment (LORD knows we need it) and reduced Sales to create consumerism which without you can't have an economy!

I remember Ted Cruz saying he wanted to raise the sales tax to increase consumerism. Not sure how that'd work.

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Just now, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I remember Ted Cruz saying he wanted to raise the sales tax to increase consumerism. Not sure how that'd work.

Yeah even Ted has Trump Moments....

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