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German Reichstag - 1871

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On January 18, 1871, after an alliance of 25 German nations led by the Kingdom of Prussia soundly defeated the Second French Empire, even capturing their sovereign, Emperor Napoleon III, Prussian Minister-Presidant Otto von Bismark, a shrewd, cunning, and ruthless politician with a vision of German unity outside Austrian Habsburg domination, proclaimed the new German Empire, or "Second Reich," in the Hall of Mirrors of Paris' own Versailles Palace, a "federal empire" where the King of Prussia, Wilhelm I of the House of Hohenzollern, became the German Kaiser (Emperor) and Bismark became the inaugural holder of the office of German Chancellor. Each of the 25 individual state heads (four kings, six grand dukes, five dukes, seven principalities, and three senates and mayors of the Free and Hanseatic Cities), maintained some power within their traditional demesne under a federal system of power division. The Imperial Territory of Alsace-Lorraine, seized as spoils from the defeated Frances, became a de factor 26th Imperial State, but under a Governor appointed by the Kaiser. A new imperial Parliament is set to be established the same year, with an upper house (the Bundesrat), completely controlled by artificial numbers of votes tallied to each of the Imperial State heads, and the Reichstag, to be popularly elected. Now, Germany's first national popular legislative is about to commence....

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Thanks, Sanser 2016.

Here will be the parties:

-Centre Party - A Roman Catholic-dominated and representative party formed in 1870 in the pre-federal Kingdom of Prussia Landtag to oppose Bismark's Kulturkampf, it is backed by the Vatican but is centrist on most economic and foreign issues.

-Danish Party - A party founded in 1871 that runs in and strives to represent the large ethnic-Danish minority in the Prussian Province of Schleswig-Holstein.

-German-Hanoverian Party - Formed in 1867 in the Prussian Landtag to protest the annexation by Prussia of the formerly independent Kingdom of Hanover in the 1866 Austro-Prussian War, this party continues to seek their goals in the new Reichstag within the now-Prussian Province of Hanover.

-German People's Party- A liberal party formed in 1868 that supported Austria, instead of Prussia, as the leading figure of a unified German nation. After Austria was shut-out of such a role definitively by Bismark's policies, they turned to representing the rights of the four states who had not been members of the 1867 North German Confederation but became members of the German Empire (the Kingdoms of Bavaria and Wurttemberg, and the Grand Duchies of Baden and Hesse), and to try to hold Bismark to his pledge of federal rights for the state sovereigns within their lands.

-German Progress Party - Idealists and statesmen within Prussia who, unsatisfied with the Prussian Constitution of 1849, that led to the loss of most of the constitutional gains by the Revolutions of 1848 in Prussia, formed Germany's first formal political party, and an early liberal party, the German Progress Party, 1861, to contest the Prussian Landtag elections, and now, the German Reichstag elections. They are probably Bismark's biggest opponents, along with the Centre Party.

-German Reich Party - Founded to contest the Prussian Landtag elections as the Free Conservative Party in 1866, they run as the German Reich Party in the German Reichstag elections. They are maid up of mostly nobles, East Elbian Junkers, and other "old money," and "aristocratic" types, but, unlike the "Old Conservatives" (who had formed an organized party in the Reichstag until 1876), they German Reich Party were fervent supporters of the ideals of nationalism, imperialism, and the German Empire, and the main conservative branch of Bismark's Reichstag support base.

-General German Worker's Association - An organized labour party (and Germany's first labour party) founded in Leipzig in 1863 to contest the pre-federal Kingdom of Saxony Landtag elections, they now run as one of two organized labour parties in the first Reichstag election, the other being the Social Democratic Worker's Party, founded in Eisenach in 1869 to run in the pre-federal Landtag of the Grand Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. The two parties would historically go on to merge in 1875 to form the Social Democratic Party of Germany, which exists to this day and is arguably the oldest extant political party in Germany.

-Imperial Liberal Party - An analog and ally of the National Liberal Party in states outside of Prussia.

-National Liberal - A breakaway group of the German Progress Party formed in 1866. They are the staunch liberal supporters of Bismark in the Reichstag much as the German Reich Party are his conservative supporters in that chamber.

-Old Conservatives - Though this group would not formally historically organize a political party (the German Conservative Party) until 1876, this group of de jure like-minded non-partisan candidates come from the same backgrounds as the dominant demographic of the German Reich Party, but are opposed to what they consider many of Bismark's "overreaching and overly-ambitious" foreign and economic policies, especially his view that a welfare state creates a sense of loyalty in the workers and is thus a good investment for a nation.

-Polish Party - A party to represent and advocate for the ethnic Polish population in the Prussian provinces east of the Elbe and Oder rivers (the Provinces of Prussia, Posen, Pomerania, and Silesia).

-Others - A number of those who don't fit in the above parties (what modern politics would call Independents), including labour movements outside the two above parties (notably in Essen and Hamburg), parochial landowners (and gentry) in tiny member-states, Jewish community candidates, and others besides.

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So far, the main issues are:

-Austrian Empire - In terms of diplomatic and military relations.

-British Empire - In terms of diplomatic and military relations.

-Authoritarianism vs. Constitutionalism - An ongoing struggle in the German Empire.

-Centralism vs. Federalism - Another ongoing struggle in the German Empire.

-Colonialism - At this point, only a nascent idea, and one Bismark himself strongly opposed.

-Currency, Weights, and Measures - How to harmonize a bunch of different distinct currencies and measurement systems, if at all.

-French indemnities and occupation - How far to go with the newly defeated and humbled nation.

-Imperial Navy - How much to spend on a new navy, if at all.

-Kingdom of Italy - In terms of diplomatic and military relations.

-Minority Rights - Equality or burdens for non-Christian, non-ethnic German denizens of the new Empire.

-Religion - Especially with regards to the Kultukampf and opposition to it.

-Russian Empire - In terms of diplomatic and military relations.

-Trade - Policies of trade abroad.

-Welfare State - Strangely, an initiative of Bismark, normally a staunch conservative ideologically, as a means to "build the loyalty of the workers to the State."

Any suggestions to or comments on this list would be greatly appreciated.

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I have continued work on this. The big snag at the moment is that, the map I've found and downloaded online, which is actually one of the best quality map I can on the net, has borders between it's states and Prussian provinces in several shapes of black that need to be traced over and cleaned up in 'basic black.' It seems like it might be a bit time-consuming. :(

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Alright, now that I have a map for this scenario, thanks to @Conservative Elector 2, and I've found myself fatigued at the idea of doing a modern US-based scenario, I've taken this one up again, especially with the trick @james_bond72 discovered to create virtual coalitions in CI. Updates will come shortly. 

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Would you be willing to create the elections for the lead up to World War Two (1930, July 1932, November 1932, and March 1933)?  It would be interesting to try and prevent the rise of Fascism in Germany.

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1 hour ago, jvikings1 said:

Would you be willing to create the elections for the lead up to World War Two (1930, July 1932, November 1932, and March 1933)?  It would be interesting to try and prevent the rise of Fascism in Germany.

If I can keep enough steam, I'd like to do all the German Federal Elections - the German Empire Reichstag 1871-1912, the Weimar Republic Reichstag 1919-1933, the West German Bundestag 1949-1987, the last, and only free and fair and contested, East German Volkskammer Election 1990, and the post-Unification German Bundestag Elections 1990 onward, including redoing and expanding the official TheorySpark ones that came with the old K4E games. Although I'm starting with 1871, I don't have the plan of strict chronological order thereafter. Maybe a number of interesting German State Landtag elections, too, we'll see...

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7 hours ago, Patine said:

Alright, now that I have a map for this scenario, thanks to @Conservative Elector 2, and I've found myself fatigued at the idea of doing a modern US-based scenario, I've taken this one up again, especially with the trick @james_bond72 discovered to create virtual coalitions in CI. Updates will come shortly. 

You are welcome!

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Okay, since I have found the CI Scenario Editor to be more of an impediment than a helpful tool, I'm going to manually edit the .xml files directly like I did for my old C4E scenario Wisconsin State Senate 2010, or (although the format was different, and they were called .p4e files) how I did for Prime Minister Forever, Chancellor Forever, and Premier Forever (and how pretty much had to be done for those old engines), so this may take a little longer than at first expected.

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42 minutes ago, Patine said:

Okay, since I have found the CI Scenario Editor to be more of an impediment than a helpful tool, I'm going to manually edit the .xml files directly like I did for my old C4E scenario Wisconsin State Senate 2010, or (although the format was different, and they were called .p4e files) how I did for Prime Minister Forever, Chancellor Forever, and Premier Forever (and how pretty much had to be done for those old engines), so this may take a little longer than at first expected.

I can't wait to play it, good luck with it when you find the time. 

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Returning to this, there are currently three informal "groupings" the parties are divided into based on alignment with Chancellor Otto von Bismarck and his hopes to form a legislative coalition of support to pass his policies (under the system in the German Empire, he doesn't actually need the confidence of a coalition in the Reichstag to actually hold his office - the Imperial Chancellor of the Empire was appointed and dismissed solely at the pleasure of the Kaiser, as was only Constitutionally responsible to him. Also, Bismarck himself was not a member of the Reichstag, nor an actual member of any political party. However, having a coalition that was capable of reliably (or, at least, often) passing his vision for the country as legislation made his job easier - in any cases, doable at all. The three groupings are:

PRO-BISMARCK COALITION

-German Reich Party (Bismarck's conservative coalition arm)

-National Liberal Party ((Bismarck's liberal coalition arm)

-Imperial Liberal Party

ANTI-BISMARCK PARTIES (NO INHERENT COALITION)

-Centre Party

-German People's Party

-German Progress Party

-General German Worker's Association

-Old Conservatives

-Social Democratic Worker's Party

REGIONALIST

-Danish Party

-German-Hanoverian Party

-Polish Party

-Most "Others"

This, as it stands, will be where the much broader, cross-party battlegrounds are drawn.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

@vcczar @jvikings1 @Reagan04 @Dallas @Sanser2016 @CalebsParadox @lok1999 @jnewt @ThePotatoWalrus  @SiorafasNaCillini @servo75 @Presidentinsertname @Falcon @Take Me to La Riva @TheMiddlePolitical @Zach @Sunnymentoaddict @streiner @Conservative Elector 2 @Jayavarman @SeanFKennedy @QuickHead555 @goTBrays @warren2016 @victor1313 @TheLiberalKitten @Biden Should've Run @wolves @Socialist Bernie @Mordechai @michaelsdiamonds @chunkbuster11 @admin_270 @VanMav @pilight @Bruce Fischer @LegolasRedbard   @republicaninnyc @TeamEhmling

Returning to this, there are currently three informal "groupings" the parties are divided into based on alignment with Chancellor Otto von Bismarck and his hopes to form a legislative coalition of support to pass his policies (under the system in the German Empire, he doesn't actually need the confidence of a coalition in the Reichstag to actually hold his office - the Imperial Chancellor of the Empire was appointed and dismissed solely at the pleasure of the Kaiser, as was only Constitutionally responsible to him. Also, Bismarck himself was not a member of the Reichstag, nor an actual member of any political party. However, having a coalition that was capable of reliably (or, at least, often) passing his vision for the country as legislation made his job easier - in any cases, doable at all. The three groupings are:

PRO-BISMARCK COALITION

-German Reich Party (Bismarck's conservative coalition arm)

-National Liberal Party ((Bismarck's liberal coalition arm)

-Imperial Liberal Party

ANTI-BISMARCK PARTIES (NO INHERENT COALITION)

-Centre Party

-German People's Party

-German Progress Party

-General German Worker's Association

-Old Conservatives

-Social Democratic Worker's Party

REGIONALIST

-Danish Party

-German-Hanoverian Party

-Polish Party

-Most "Others"

This, as it stands, will be where the much broader, cross-party battlegrounds are drawn.

Looks good. I'm glad you're returning to this @Patine

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@Reagan04

You would have liked the Centre Party. They were originally organized as a political response to and attempted protection from Bismarck's Kulturkampf, or Protestant-led suppression of Catholic institutions in Germany, and they were they were personally endorsed by Pope Pius XI himself (and, unlike in the U.S., a Papal Endorsement was not a political "kiss of death" for them).

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Looks good. I'll give feedback when this gets into a more advanced stage of the process. 

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14 minutes ago, Patine said:

@Reagan04

You would have liked the Centre Party. They were originally organized as a political response to and attempted protection from Bismarck's Kulturkampf, or Protestant-led suppression of Catholic institutions in Germany, and they were they were personally endorsed by Pope Pius XI himself (and, unlike in the U.S., a Papal Endorsement was not a political "kiss of death" for them).

Interesting!

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I look forward to playing.

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I may have to get CI just for this.

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9 hours ago, Wiw said:

Would you be able to know the names of the individual seats in the Reichstag?

I know the number that each state and Prussian province has, and I've seen a map showing the German Empire divided into constituencies, but, if I can't dig up historical names, I'll just fudge a bit based on local geography around each constituency on the map by cross-referencing German cities and kreises, because that'll mean by players likely won't be better informed... :P

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Bismarck in 1888:"One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."

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1 hour ago, NYrepublican said:

Bismarck in 1888:"One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."

That actually wasn't hard to predict in 1888, given at that time all of those Balkan Nations were struggling for independence and more land from the crumbling Ottoman Empire, and the Great Powers were constantly meddling in a paternalistic way. Also, there was virtually no military conflict anywhere else in Europe in the year 1888.

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