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Hi everyone, :)

I have decided to write a bit about current events in our Presidential race here in Austria. In two weeks we will have our first round and it seems that everything is possible. It is not really clear who will advance to the second round. My requested absentee voting forms arrived last week. If you are interested I can later post a picture of the actual ballot. :) I did not fill it out yet, but I know already who I am gonna vote for = Andreas Khol. :D

2. Another good thing about our race is to get giveaways of all the campaigns. I already got items like ballpens, buttons, stickers, sweet etc. of most campaigns. :D If you want pictures as well, I can show you the stuff later. ;)

3. I was wondering why I never asked this question before, but is here in the forum anyone else who is able to speak German? :) If so you might be interested in the campaign videos. ;) We also had one debate yet featuring all candidates and several interviews and duels with two candidates.

I let those links here and perhaps you are interested in the videos:

1st Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6dzy_BoZgs&nohtml5=False

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4YDgmGBFnM - Rudolf Hundstorfer campaign opening video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HdRD2_OXIk&nohtml5=False Andreas Khol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba4jalujuR0&nohtml5=False Alexander Van der Bellen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQh4XQKhwVY Irmgard Griss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnq1E1p2wg&nohtml5=False Richard Lugner (more or less satirical; from 4:00)

However, Norbert Hofer has no such video...

4. To cover current events: yesterday rumours occured that our Secretary of the Interior will assume the office of Lieutenant Governor of Lower Austria and therefore the current Lieutenant Governor might become the new Secretary of the Interior.

I hope you like this information about the race. I intend to update this post more often to inform you about the political situation here. You gave me much information about US politics, so I think it is time time give something back. Have fun! :)

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Interesting

Thanks! :)

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This is very interesting, Conservative Elector 2, but, as I pointed out earlier, this election is about as profound politically as if Canada elected our Governor General. How does the Austrian media even play up this election with it's lack of real stakes, and how does the agency that governs Austrian elections, or the candidates' campaigns, drum up support for voting for a ceremonial head-of-state? That's the feat that would really interest me - how they get you Austrians to the polls over this.

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@Patine

Until 1982 we had compulsory voting for presidential elections in every state. Than the states decided to abolish this. In the State of Tyrol this was abolished just after the 2004 (!) election. Besides to the state parliament elections, we have three big elections (National Council, European Parliament and President). The presidential election is viewed by most as the second most important election after the National Council election. The last turnout in 2010 was about 54 % but I read an article that said this time about 70 % are expected to vote. As I said earlier some people here want to abolish this office, but even the party which wants this (the FPÖ) nominates a candidate... And in addition many people want a more active president who holds more powers than ceremonial ones.

I cannot speak for others, but I am voting in every election regardless of the office which is elected. I believe that is an important duty for everyone who wants to live in this country (It doesn't matter whether it's the USA, Canada or Austria) and it is my first presidential election in which I am eligible to vote in, as you have to be 16 years old and sadly in 2010 I was just 14...

In addition you are right about a strong media coverage. There are tons of tv formats which are following the candidates campaigns and those campaigns are using social media like Facebook and Twitter excessively. Sometimes I have the feeling Austrians want to imitate the American presidential races, but I have no problem with that as I would love to be in the US during an election year. :D It must be very cool to have American giveaways from the campaigns.

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I have heard from a few friends in both Germany and Austria (including the one I had quoted on Austrian politics) that one of the biggest reasons both countries adopted very ceremonial Presidents in post-WW2 era was because of the very controversial (nigh disastrous) actions of the ONLY popularly elected head-of-state (as opposed to head-of-government) in at least German history, the Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg.

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I took 4 semesters of German. My vocabulary is alright, but my sentence structure is terrible. I haven't ever used it, and it's been almost a decade since I took my last German class. I have a lot of German-speaking ancestors.

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I saw that "Fascist" party leading in the polls crazy stuff (for legislative) and there close for president id like to see some norbert stuff ;)

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Thanks for all the replies. It's very interesting to hear this about von Hindenburg, it might be true. And very cool, that you had German courses. :)

Of course I can show you the Norbert stuff. :D

http://i.imgur.com/QusU0pO.jpg - Stuff I got so far from the Hofer campaign.

http://i.imgur.com/3mzGk2f.jpg - official ballot

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Thanks for all the replies. It's very interesting to hear this about von Hindenburg, it might be true. And very cool, that you had German courses. :)

Of course I can show you the Norbert stuff. :D

http://i.imgur.com/QusU0pO.jpg - Stuff I got so far from the Hofer campaign.

http://i.imgur.com/3mzGk2f.jpg - official ballot

Thatd be great! :) and awesome! :) i love taking intrest in internation politics (Because i was born in Australia and voted my first time there) :)

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Duels with two candidates who are switched after 15 minutes, are going on in Austrian tv. :)

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Today at 8:15 p.m. Austrian time the last debate featuring all six candidates will take place in Vienna. :) I am really excited for it, as it is the last major tv event before the 1st round on Sunday.

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In case someone wants to take a quick look at the debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4w2fPN7fuM :)

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Today is the big day. :)

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Besides Wikipedia here is a good link for the detailed results: http://bpwahl.krone.at/presidential/index.html?apaactualSection=apaMap

You can switch between Bundesländer (States), Bezirke (districts/counties) and Gemeinden (towns/villages).

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_presidential_election,_2016#Results Here is the official result. :)

More detailed information: http://wahl16.bmi.gv.at/ - sadly it's only in German available.

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Happy my canidate is advancing :) intresting to see Greens getting second Do you feel theres going to be change with a far-right president? If he wins the second round. How do you think hes going to matchup? Hopefully he wins :) I saw some polls he was down by 3 but 4% undecided i see it likely he wins

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I don't know if there will really be much of a change. To my understanding, as I've been saying, the Austrian President has very little real power. I don't mean to be a killjoy and rain on Conservative Elector's 2 parade, but this is what I'm led to understand from both Wikipedia and my friend in Austria.

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Happy my canidate is advancing :) intresting to see Greens getting second Do you feel theres going to be change with a far-right president? If he wins the second round. How do you think hes going to matchup? Hopefully he wins :) I saw some polls he was down by 3 but 4% undecided i see it likely he wins

Nice. I am a bit disappointed with this result as I voted for Khol but the show must go on. :D

No, I don't believe there would be much change. As Patine stated our president is not that powerful as his US counterpart. In addition the FPÖ doesn't have many connections on the other side of the aisle. Most Socialdemocrats, the Greens and the Neos refuse to get into coalitions with them, so the far-right Hofer wouldn't have an easy job as President to work together with those parties. The international relations might become highly reserved too (except Hungary or Poland...). Even German politicians are calling for a Van der Bellen vote... Other right-wing parties across Europe like the Front National in France or the AfD in Germany are celebrating this first triumph.

Our poll might not be that trustworthy. :D No poll had Hofer above 30 % and finally he got 35 % of the vote... But of course it is highly interesting to analyse them. :)

I don't know if there will really be much of a change. To my understanding, as I've been saying, the Austrian President has very little real power. I don't mean to be a killjoy and rain on Conservative Elector's 2 parade, but this is what I'm led to understand from both Wikipedia and my friend in Austria.

No problem, it's basically true but the whole race is very interesting for me as I love statistics, polls and so on. I just want to inform you all about the political development in this country. :) Of course I am aware of the fact, that this election might not be that important for the whole world. :D Cheers!

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Nice. I am a bit disappointed with this result as I voted for Khol but the show must go on. :D

No, I don't believe there would be much change. As Patine stated our president is not that powerful as his US counterpart. In addition the FPÖ doesn't have many connections on the other side of the aisle. Most Socialdemocrats, the Greens and the Neos refuse to get into coalitions with them, so the far-right Hofer wouldn't have an easy job as President to work together with those parties. The international relations might become highly reserved too (except Hungary or Poland...). Even German politicians are calling for a Van der Bellen vote... Other right-wing parties across Europe like the Front National in France or the AfD in Germany are celebrating this first triumph.

Our poll might not be that trustworthy. :D No poll had Hofer above 30 % and finally he got 35 % of the vote... But of course it is highly interesting to analyse them. :)

No problem, it's basically true but the whole race is very interesting for me as I love statistics, polls and so on. I just want to inform you all about the political development in this country. :) Of course I am aware of the fact, that this election might not be that important for the whole world. :D Cheers!

Ahh i see :) But do you think him winning shows that the FPO will have more power in parliament come next elections? :)

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That might come true. In recent polls the FPÖ leads by a big margin. It's about 10 % (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Austrian_legislative_election#Opinion_polls). However, many people argue that if he really wins, people wouldn't want an FPÖ chancellor too, because too much power would be with one party. In the 2004 presidential election people elected the Socialdemocratic candidate (incumbent President Heinz Fischer of the SPÖ) rather than his conservative counterpart (then Secratary of State Benita Ferrero-Waldner of the ÖVP). Many believe today that this was because we used to have a conservative Chancellor (Wolfgang Schüssel) back in those days.

Personally, that's no issue for me. I vote conservative in every election when I have the chance to. :)

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In France, where both the President and Prime Minister have significant power each, there's a state of politics called "cohabitation" where the holders of the two offices are from different, and ideologically distinct, parties. Note the fact that this happens enough to have a common parlance name there...

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Yeah that's interesting. 2017 will be an election for the French president. I will follow this very closely, as the primaries seem to become very exciting according to Wikipedia. :)

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Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann resigns. We'll see who will succeed him.

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Vice Chancellor Mitterlehner (Austrian People's Party) serves as interim chancellor of Austria for now. A new socialdemocratic Chancellor has still to be chosen. Interim Socialdemocrat Party chairman is now Vienna's mayor Michael Häupl.

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