LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 Are their currently any plans to make Premier Forever Alberta 2012? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 Are their currently any plans to make Premier Forever Alberta 2012? I thought I may take a whack at it, seeing as how I live in Alberta and get information on it daily in my paper and am familiar with the layout of Alberta politics quite a bit. Anyone want to join in? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 11, 2012 I thought I may take a whack at it, seeing as how I live in Alberta and get information on it daily in my paper and am familiar with the layout of Alberta politics quite a bit. Anyone want to join in? What do you need? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted February 13, 2012 What do you need? First off, should I only include the five parties at all likely to get seats - PC, WRA, Liberal, NDP, and Alberta Party - or should I also include minor parties like the SoCreds, SPA, Communists, Independents, etc.? Second, I'm debating between the Alberta Premier Forever engine (essentially identical to the Canadian PM4E engine, just with bigger swings in percentages in actual play) or the new Canadian PM4E 2011 engine. If the latter were used, I'd need a bit of technical advice on it's actual mechanics. Third, should I offer other candidates from the PC, Liberal, and Alberta Party leadership conventions of last year as alternate leaders, or just have the one actually chosen for each. And fourth and finally, at least for now, is issues. I have a few ideas (see below), but need some advice on other. -Balanced Budget -Economy -Education -Endbridge Pipeline -Environment -Health Care -Oil Sands -Taxation -Transportation -Unemployment 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 13, 2012 First off, should I only include the five parties at all likely to get seats - PC, WRA, Liberal, NDP, and Alberta Party - or should I also include minor parties like the SoCreds, SPA, Communists, Independents, etc.? Second, I'm debating between the Alberta Premier Forever engine (essentially identical to the Canadian PM4E engine, just with bigger swings in percentages in actual play) or the new Canadian PM4E 2011 engine. If the latter were used, I'd need a bit of technical advice on it's actual mechanics. Third, should I offer other candidates from the PC, Liberal, and Alberta Party leadership conventions of last year as alternate leaders, or just have the one actually chosen for each. And fourth and finally, at least for now, is issues. I have a few ideas (see below), but need some advice on other. -Balanced Budget -Economy -Education -Endbridge Pipeline -Environment -Health Care -Oil Sands -Taxation -Transportation -Unemployment I think you should include the minor parties. I think it would be nice to have another scenario on the PM4E Can. 2011 Engine. I think having alternate candidates lets people customize their campaign more and that is better. Canidates - PC - Allison Redford, Gary Mar, Doug Horner, Ted Morton, Rick Orman, Doug Griffiths, Edward Stelmach Lib - Raj Sherman, David Swann, Kevin Taft, Mo Elsalhy, Laurie Blakeman, Hugh MacDonald, Bill Harvey, Bruce Payne NDP - Raj Pannu, Brian Mason Wildrose - Danielle Smith, Paul Hinman, Randy thorsteintan Evergreen - Larry Ashmore Alberta - Glen Taylor, Dave Taylor Social Credit - Len Skowronski Sep. - Bruce Hutton Communist - Naomi Rankin Issues -Federal relations -Urbanization 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALBERTApartier 1 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 I think you should include the minor parties. I think it would be nice to have another scenario on the PM4E Can. 2011 Engine. I think having alternate candidates lets people customize their campaign more and that is better. Canidates - PC - Allison Redford, Gary Mar, Doug Horner, Ted Morton, Rick Orman, Doug Griffiths, Edward Stelmach Lib - Raj Sherman, David Swann, Kevin Taft, Mo Elsalhy, Laurie Blakeman, Hugh MacDonald, Bill Harvey, Bruce Payne NDP - Raj Pannu, Brian Mason Wildrose - Danielle Smith, Paul Hinman, Randy thorsteintan Evergreen - Larry Ashmore Alberta - Glen Taylor, Dave Taylor Social Credit - Len Skowronski Sep. - Bruce Hutton Communist - Naomi Rankin Issues -Federal relations -Urbanization K couple problems with some of the Candidates. Randy Thorensteinson is dead....he killed himself also the Candidates for the Alberta party were Glenn Taylor, Tammy Maloney, Lee easton and Randy Royer as for Pannu for NDP, hes not running and hes far too old to run again so i'd say either Ray Martin, Brian Mason, Rachel Notley or David Eggan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 K couple problems with some of the Candidates. Randy Thorensteinson is dead....he killed himself also the Candidates for the Alberta party were Glenn Taylor, Tammy Maloney, Lee easton and Randy Royer as for Pannu for NDP, hes not running and hes far too old to run again so i'd say either Ray Martin, Brian Mason, Rachel Notley or David Eggan 1. Randy Thorsteinson did not kill himself. As for others it hypothetical. Alberta Party candidates are a good idea. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALBERTApartier 1 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 1. Randy Thorsteinson did not kill himself. As for others it hypothetical. Alberta Party candidates are a good idea. nvm i was thinking of someone else from the Social Credit/ Alliance then 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylor 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2012 This would be an excellent scenario. You would want to put an inherent weakness in the Liberal campaign, and a lot of emphasis on the attacks between Wildrose and PC's. More issues would be: Housing U.S. Relations Equalization Payments Social issues like Abortion could be useful for the Wildrose as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 16, 2012 I could do the parties and leaders on Can. 2011 or PM4E Alb. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted February 17, 2012 I could do the parties and leaders on Can. 2011 or PM4E Alb. That would be a great start, yes. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted February 17, 2012 That would be a great start, yes. Which one? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted February 18, 2012 Which one? I'm more comfortable with the PM4E engine, and the Constituency Editor works in the Alberta version, so that's what I'd say. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanO 1 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 One major issue has been Transmission Lines as well. Its been a real issue in Southern Alberta around Medicine Hat and in Sherwood Park and Strathcona-Sherwood Park. Leaders: Alberta Party: Sue Huff (she was interim leader) Parties: I would include the Evergreen Party (made up from the now bankrupt Green Party) As for Independents I am aware of two so far: 1.) Jim Ford (yes from the Federal Election) who is running in Sherwood Park 2.) Carl Benito (only a rumor but he has some signs up) running in his riding of Millwoods 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted March 10, 2012 One major issue has been Transmission Lines as well. Its been a real issue in Southern Alberta around Medicine Hat and in Sherwood Park and Strathcona-Sherwood Park. Leaders: Alberta Party: Sue Huff (she was interim leader) Parties: I would include the Evergreen Party (made up from the now bankrupt Green Party) As for Independents I am aware of two so far: 1.) Jim Ford (yes from the Federal Election) who is running in Sherwood Park 2.) Carl Benito (only a rumor but he has some signs up) running in his riding of Millwoods I agree with the Evergreen Party, but should the two independents be one party or each be one? That issue's good, too. I recall hearing about it in the news not long ago, come to think of it. Any progress on the leaders/parties, LordBeckett. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted March 27, 2012 I agree with the Evergreen Party, but should the two independents be one party or each be one? That issue's good, too. I recall hearing about it in the news not long ago, come to think of it. Any progress on the leaders/parties, LordBeckett. Lord Beckett? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted March 28, 2012 Lord Beckett? Nearly Done with default candidates. Sorry it took so long. I've been busy. Update: Okay done, Email? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Nearly Done with default candidates. Sorry it took so long. I've been busy. Update: Okay done, Email? chandallah@netscape.net 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALBERTApartier 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 losparks@live.ca 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_mcfarlane17 2 Report post Posted April 17, 2012 chris_mcfarlane17@hotmail.com 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted April 17, 2012 losparks@live.ca Just so you two know, and anyone else who may post, the scenario's not nearly done. I asked LordBeckett for a mostly incomplete copy so I could help finish it. It's being worked on. So please, no more e-mails. Which reminds me, are you sending it soon LordBeckett? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordBeckett 29 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 Just so you two know, and anyone else who may post, the scenario's not nearly done. I asked LordBeckett for a mostly incomplete copy so I could help finish it. It's being worked on. So please, no more e-mails. Which reminds me, are you sending it soon LordBeckett? Tomorrow I will send Constituency Info and Leaders files. Notes: My Leaders photos might not be great and their attributes will be based mainly off debate and interview performances. Percentages will be based off projection by ThreehundredEight.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikkil 46 Report post Posted May 20, 2012 Send it here too please. akoflogger@gmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 35 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 @Lord Beckett: How's this coming? I don't think I actually received any files for quite a while. Any progress made? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikalise 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Hey folks - just wondering what happened to this thread and the progress on Alberta 2012? I would love to help in any way I can. I did make a 2012 scenario (sorta incomplete, but it worked) using the Alberta - 2008 engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
