matvail2002 803 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 matvail2002@gmail.com 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Economic: North Dublin - Rural areas - Urban areas - South DublinSocial: South Dublin - North Dublin - Urban areas - Rural areas Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkstriker 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 zacherygerard@hotmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EGaffney 17 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin? Yes. Wikipedia says this: A north-south division has traditionally existed in Dublin for some time, with the dividing line being the River Liffey. The Northside is traditionally seen by some as working-class (with the exception of a few suburbs) while the Southside is seen as middle and upper middle class (again, with the exception of a few suburbs). This is an exaggeration; each side has plenty of rich and poor areas. The reason for the stereotype is that the Southside has the very richest parts of Ireland (almost all the "elites" live there). Similarly, the Northside has the very poorest urban areas. The very poorest areas of Ireland are in rural counties like Laois or Donegal. But the fact that it's an urban area creates problems like heroin addiction that aren't as common in rural areas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zagatstein 2 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 I think you have my email address, but here's mine for Ireland 1918 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graemp 9 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin? Roddy Doyle put it best; The Oirish are the Blacks of Europe The Dubliners are the Blacks of Oireland The Northsoiders are the Blacks of Dublin So say it clearly..... Oim Black and Oim Proud [The Committments] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Report post Posted December 18, 2009 treasurerofthepc at yahoo.com OK, this is great because, round about Ireland 1918 and the 1920's is the ideal period i wanted to see come to fruition on here, whether through me or somebody else. The elections were alot more interesting back then, but i'm sure 1987 will be good too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcallega 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 can you shoot me 1918 and any other Irish Scenarios my way? hcallega@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graemp 9 Report post Posted February 3, 2010 My Ireland 1918 scenario is on the back burner. Tis the old issues problem and getting round to it. If anyone else fancies completing it, let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted February 3, 2010 I'm redoing the 2002 and 2007 scenarios (the 2007 one is almost done). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted May 2, 2010 Here is what I have for Ireland 2002 so far: PARTIES: Fianna Fáil Fine Gael Labour Progressive Democrats Green Sinn Féin Socialist Independent Health @issues Abortion Childcare Corruption Defence Forces Drugs Economy Education Environment Europe Government Healthcare Immigration Industrial Policy Infrastructure Irish Language Northern Ireland Tax and Budget Terrorism @end 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Report post Posted May 3, 2010 To be frank with you, does the MMP or German electoral system could reflect STV elections in an approximate matter? Could you please send it to me when finished as you know my e-mail. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted May 3, 2010 To be frank with you, does the MMP or German electoral system could reflect STV elections in an approximate matter? Could you please send it to me when finished as you know my e-mail. I think so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EGaffney 17 Report post Posted May 14, 2010 2002: Childcare should have FF CR, FG C Drugs should have FF CR Economy should have FF CR, FG C, PD R Europe should have Lab C, Soc L Immigration should have FG CR Infrastructure should have FF CR Northern Ireland should have Soc CR Relationships: FF-Lab 40, FF-Green 20, FF-SF 25, FF-Soc 15, FG-Lab 85 2007: Abortion should have FG CR Europe should have Green CL Northern Ireland should have Soc CR Relationships: FF-FG 20, FF-PD 75, FF-Green 40, FF-SF 40, FG-Lab 90, FG-PD 40, FG-Green 50, Lab-PD 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George Foster 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 can you send it to geofost@gmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 So, is a 2011 scenario is on the works? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter14 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 can somebody send ireland scenarios for me ? primardha@gmail.com thank you very much ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted January 21, 2011 2002: Childcare should have FF CR, FG C Drugs should have FF CR Economy should have FF CR, FG C, PD R Europe should have Lab C, Soc L Immigration should have FG CR Infrastructure should have FF CR Northern Ireland should have Soc CR Relationships: FF-Lab 40, FF-Green 20, FF-SF 25, FF-Soc 15, FG-Lab 85 2007: Abortion should have FG CR Europe should have Green CL Northern Ireland should have Soc CR Relationships: FF-FG 20, FF-PD 75, FF-Green 40, FF-SF 40, FG-Lab 90, FG-PD 40, FG-Green 50, Lab-PD 10 Made all the changes. Would you like to work on the 2011 election scenario together? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
European Qoheleth (SANC) 32 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 I'm working on 2011 at the moment. State 1 (Dublin) State 2 South and East State 3 Border,Midlands and West Starts 15th January Ends 25th February FF:14% FG:35% Lab:21% GP:4% SF:14% Ind:12% Party Platforms Fianna Fail Fine Gael Labour Green Sinn Fein Independant Voting Age Right (Keep at 18) Centre-Right (17) Right Centrist Centrist Centrist Sitting Days Centrist (Same) Centre-Left (40% Up) Left Left Centrist Centrist Voting System Centre-Left (Reform) Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Left Centrist Education Spending Right (No increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centre-Left Centrist Private Patients Right (In Public Beds) Right Centre-Left (Not) Left Left Centrist Mandatory Health Insurance Centre-Left (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist Work While Seeking Asylum Centre-Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist EU Regulate Working Week Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist NPRF For Other Purposes Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Centrist Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No Increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Centrist Water Metreing Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No) Centre-Left Left Right Centrist Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Left (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Centrist Nationalised Water Company Right (No) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Left Centrist Tax And Spending Right (75% Cuts,25% Taxes) Centre-Right (62% Cuts,38% Taxes) Centre-Left Centrist Left Centrist Spending Cuts Right Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centrist EU/IMF Bailout Package Centre-Left (Renegotiate) Centre-Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Left Centre-Left Default On EU/IMF Loan Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centrist Regional Centres Dublin South and East Border,Midlands and West Voting Age Left Centrist Centrist Sitting Days Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Voting System Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Education Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Private Patients Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Mandatory Health Insurance Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Work While Seeking Asylum Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left EU Regulate Working Week Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left NPRF For Other Purposes Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Water Metreing Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Nationalised Water Company Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Tax And Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Spending Cuts Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left EU/IMF Bailout Package Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Default On EU/IMF Loan Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Leadership Charisma Integrity Stamina Experience Debating Issue Familiarity Funds How Established Party Home Region Age Martin 4 3 2 3 5 3 3 10,000,000 5 South and East 50 Kenny 4 1 3 3 4 3 3 8,000,000 5 Border,Midlands and West 60 Gilmore 3 2 3 3 4 3 3 4,000,000 5 Dublin 56 Gormley 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 6,000,000 2 Dublin 51 Adams 3 3 2 3 5 3 3 2,000,000 5 Border,Midlands and West 62 Blaney 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 500,000 1 Dublin Unknown Name/Party/%/ 43 Seats (Not Finished Yet,17 or so to go) Dublin 12 Seats ==Dublin North== James Reilly/FG/30/ Brendan Ryan/Lab/28/ Clare Daly/Ind/20/ Darragh O'Brien/FF/12/ Trevor Sargent/GP/10/ ==Dublin North East== Tommy Broughan/Lab/36/ Terence Flanaghan/FG/28/ Larry O'Toole/SF/16/ Averil Power/FF/8/ Eamonn Blaney/Ind/8/ David Healy/GP/4/ ==Dublin West== Joan Burton/Lab/31/ Leo Varadkar/FG/26/ Joe Higgins/Ind/16/ Brian Lenihan/FF/14/ Paul Donnelly/SF/10/ Roderic O'Gorman/GP/3/ ==Dublin North West== Roisin Shortall/Lab/45/ Dessie Ellis/SF/26/ Gerry Breen/FG/16/ Pat Carey/FF/9/ Ruairi Holohan/GP/3/ Andrew Keegan/Ind/1/ ==Dublin North Central== Richard Bruton/FG/37/ Aodhan O'Riordan/Lab/24/ Finian McGrath/Ind/17/ Sean Haughey/FF/10/ Helen McCormack/SF/9/ Donna Clooney/GP/3/ ==Dublin Central== Joe Costello/Lab/30/ Paschal Donohoe/FG/20/ Maureen O'Sullivan/Ind/17/ Mary Lou Mc Donald/SF/17/ Mary Fitzpatrick/FF/12/ Phil Kearney/GP/4/ ==Dublin Mid West== Joanna Tuffy/Lab/33/ Frances Fitzgerald/FG/30/ Eoin O'Broin/SF/16/ John Curran/FF/14/ Paul Gogarty/GP/7/ Gino Kenny/Ind/0/ ==Dublin South Central== Eric Byrne/Lab/37/ Catherine Byrne/FG/23/ Joan Collins/Ind/13/ Aengus O'Snodaigh/SF/17/ M Mulcahy/FF/6/ O O hAlmhain/GP/4/ ==Dublin South East== Lucinda Creighton/FG/34/ Ruairi Quinn/Lab/27/ Paul Sommerville/Ind/14/ John Gormley/GP/9/ Chris Andrews/FF/8/ Ruadhan MacAodhain/SF/8/ ==Dublin South West== Pat Rabbitte/Lab/38/ Brian Hayes/FG/27/ Sean Crowe/SF/21/ Charlie O'Connor/FF/8/ Mick Murphy/Ind/4/ Francis Duffy/GP/3/ ==Dublin South== Olivia Mitchell/FG/35 Shane Ross/Ind/22/ Alex White/Lab/20/ Eamon Ryan/GP/9/ Sorcha Nic Cormaic/SF/7 Maria Corrigan/FF/6/ ==Dun Laoghaire== Sean Barrett/FG/34/ Eamon Gilmore/Lab/32/ Richard Boyd Barrett/Ind/13/ Mary Hanfain/FF/12/ Ciaran Cuffe/GP/6/ South and East 17 Seats ==Cork South West== Jim Daly/FG/47/ Denis O'Donovan/FF/21/ Michael McCarthy/Lab/16/ Paul Hayes/SF/11/ John Kearney/Ind/1/ Kevin McCaughey/4/ ==Cork North West== Michael Creed/FG/48/ Michael Moynihan/FF/22/ Martin Coughlan/Lab/16/ Des O'Grady/SF/11/ Mark Collins/GP/3/ Ann Foley/Ind/0/ ==Limerick== Dan Neville/FG/48/ James Heffernan/Lab/20/ Niall Collins/FF/18/ John Dillon/Ind/9/ Stephen Wall/GP/3/ ==Tipperary North== Michael Lowry/Ind/30/ Noel Coonan/FG/23/ Alan Kelly/Lab/22/ Maire Hoctor/FF/13/ Seamus Morris/SF/10/ Olwyn O'Malley/GP/3/ Border,Midlands and West 13 seats ==Sligo/North Leitrim== John Perry/FG/36/ Eamon Scanlan/FF/22/ Michael Colreavy/SF/17/ Declan Bree/Ind/14/ Susan O'Keefe/Lab/12/ Johnny Gogan/GP/3/ ==Cavan/Monaghan== Joe O'Reilly/FG/39/ Caoimhin O'Caolain/SF/30/ Brendan Smith/FF/17/ Seamus Treanor/Ind/5/ ==Louth== Fergus O'Dowd/FG/30/ Gerry Adams/SF/26/ Gerlad Nash/Lab/21/ Seamus Kirk/FF/13/ M Dearey/GP/7/ T Clare/Ind/4/ ==Donegal South West== Pearse Doherty/SF/37/ Mary Coughlan/FF/19/ Dinny McGinley/FG/19/ Thomas Pringle/Ind/15/ Frank McBrearty/Lab/7/ John Duffy/GP/3/ ==Donegal North East== Joe McHugh/FG/31/ Padraig MacLochlainn/SF/28 Charlie McConalogue/FF/14 Jimmy Harte/Lab/13/ Dessie Shiels/Ind/12/ Humphrey Murphy/GP/2/ ==Longford/Westmeath== James Bannon/FG/37/ Willie Penrose/Lab/29/ Robert Troy/FF/16/ Paul Hogan/SF/11/ Kevin Moran/Ind/5/ Siobhan Kinahan/GP/2/ Event 26th January Martin Becomes Leader Of Fianna Fail Martin Profile:3 Spin:+1 Power:3 Leadership Notes I have the demo of PM Forever UK 2010 but won't get the full game until August so if someone else could finish the job. All of the votes of the party are given to the candidate that got the most first preferences in the constituency at the real election. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted May 29, 2011 I'm working on 2011 at the moment. State 1 (Dublin) State 2 South and East State 3 Border,Midlands and West Starts 15th January Ends 25th February FF:14% FG:35% Lab:21% GP:4% SF:14% Ind:12% Party Platforms Fianna Fail Fine Gael Labour Green Sinn Fein Independant Voting Age Right (Keep at 18) Centre-Right (17) Right Centrist Centrist Centrist Sitting Days Centrist (Same) Centre-Left (40% Up) Left Left Centrist Centrist Voting System Centre-Left (Reform) Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Left Centrist Education Spending Right (No increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centre-Left Centrist Private Patients Right (In Public Beds) Right Centre-Left (Not) Left Left Centrist Mandatory Health Insurance Centre-Left (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist Work While Seeking Asylum Centre-Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist EU Regulate Working Week Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist NPRF For Other Purposes Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Centrist Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No Increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Centrist Water Metreing Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No) Centre-Left Left Right Centrist Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Left (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Centrist Nationalised Water Company Right (No) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Left Centrist Tax And Spending Right (75% Cuts,25% Taxes) Centre-Right (62% Cuts,38% Taxes) Centre-Left Centrist Left Centrist Spending Cuts Right Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centrist EU/IMF Bailout Package Centre-Left (Renegotiate) Centre-Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Left Centre-Left Default On EU/IMF Loan Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centrist Regional Centres Dublin South and East Border,Midlands and West Voting Age Left Centrist Centrist Sitting Days Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Voting System Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Education Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Private Patients Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Mandatory Health Insurance Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Work While Seeking Asylum Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left EU Regulate Working Week Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left NPRF For Other Purposes Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Water Metreing Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Nationalised Water Company Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Tax And Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Spending Cuts Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left EU/IMF Bailout Package Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Default On EU/IMF Loan Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Leadership Charisma Integrity Stamina Experience Debating Issue Familiarity Funds How Established Party Home Region Age Martin 4 3 2 3 5 3 3 10,000,000 5 South and East 50 Kenny 4 1 3 3 4 3 3 8,000,000 5 Border,Midlands and West 60 Gilmore 3 2 3 3 4 3 3 4,000,000 5 Dublin 56 Gormley 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 6,000,000 2 Dublin 51 Adams 3 3 2 3 5 3 3 2,000,000 5 Border,Midlands and West 62 Blaney 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 500,000 1 Dublin Unknown Name/Party/%/ 43 Seats (Not Finished Yet,17 or so to go) Dublin 12 Seats ==Dublin North== James Reilly/FG/30/ Brendan Ryan/Lab/28/ Clare Daly/Ind/20/ Darragh O'Brien/FF/12/ Trevor Sargent/GP/10/ ==Dublin North East== Tommy Broughan/Lab/36/ Terence Flanaghan/FG/28/ Larry O'Toole/SF/16/ Averil Power/FF/8/ Eamonn Blaney/Ind/8/ David Healy/GP/4/ ==Dublin West== Joan Burton/Lab/31/ Leo Varadkar/FG/26/ Joe Higgins/Ind/16/ Brian Lenihan/FF/14/ Paul Donnelly/SF/10/ Roderic O'Gorman/GP/3/ ==Dublin North West== Roisin Shortall/Lab/45/ Dessie Ellis/SF/26/ Gerry Breen/FG/16/ Pat Carey/FF/9/ Ruairi Holohan/GP/3/ Andrew Keegan/Ind/1/ ==Dublin North Central== Richard Bruton/FG/37/ Aodhan O'Riordan/Lab/24/ Finian McGrath/Ind/17/ Sean Haughey/FF/10/ Helen McCormack/SF/9/ Donna Clooney/GP/3/ ==Dublin Central== Joe Costello/Lab/30/ Paschal Donohoe/FG/20/ Maureen O'Sullivan/Ind/17/ Mary Lou Mc Donald/SF/17/ Mary Fitzpatrick/FF/12/ Phil Kearney/GP/4/ ==Dublin Mid West== Joanna Tuffy/Lab/33/ Frances Fitzgerald/FG/30/ Eoin O'Broin/SF/16/ John Curran/FF/14/ Paul Gogarty/GP/7/ Gino Kenny/Ind/0/ ==Dublin South Central== Eric Byrne/Lab/37/ Catherine Byrne/FG/23/ Joan Collins/Ind/13/ Aengus O'Snodaigh/SF/17/ M Mulcahy/FF/6/ O O hAlmhain/GP/4/ ==Dublin South East== Lucinda Creighton/FG/34/ Ruairi Quinn/Lab/27/ Paul Sommerville/Ind/14/ John Gormley/GP/9/ Chris Andrews/FF/8/ Ruadhan MacAodhain/SF/8/ ==Dublin South West== Pat Rabbitte/Lab/38/ Brian Hayes/FG/27/ Sean Crowe/SF/21/ Charlie O'Connor/FF/8/ Mick Murphy/Ind/4/ Francis Duffy/GP/3/ ==Dublin South== Olivia Mitchell/FG/35 Shane Ross/Ind/22/ Alex White/Lab/20/ Eamon Ryan/GP/9/ Sorcha Nic Cormaic/SF/7 Maria Corrigan/FF/6/ ==Dun Laoghaire== Sean Barrett/FG/34/ Eamon Gilmore/Lab/32/ Richard Boyd Barrett/Ind/13/ Mary Hanfain/FF/12/ Ciaran Cuffe/GP/6/ South and East 17 Seats ==Cork South West== Jim Daly/FG/47/ Denis O'Donovan/FF/21/ Michael McCarthy/Lab/16/ Paul Hayes/SF/11/ John Kearney/Ind/1/ Kevin McCaughey/4/ ==Cork North West== Michael Creed/FG/48/ Michael Moynihan/FF/22/ Martin Coughlan/Lab/16/ Des O'Grady/SF/11/ Mark Collins/GP/3/ Ann Foley/Ind/0/ ==Limerick== Dan Neville/FG/48/ James Heffernan/Lab/20/ Niall Collins/FF/18/ John Dillon/Ind/9/ Stephen Wall/GP/3/ ==Tipperary North== Michael Lowry/Ind/30/ Noel Coonan/FG/23/ Alan Kelly/Lab/22/ Maire Hoctor/FF/13/ Seamus Morris/SF/10/ Olwyn O'Malley/GP/3/ Border,Midlands and West 13 seats ==Sligo/North Leitrim== John Perry/FG/36/ Eamon Scanlan/FF/22/ Michael Colreavy/SF/17/ Declan Bree/Ind/14/ Susan O'Keefe/Lab/12/ Johnny Gogan/GP/3/ ==Cavan/Monaghan== Joe O'Reilly/FG/39/ Caoimhin O'Caolain/SF/30/ Brendan Smith/FF/17/ Seamus Treanor/Ind/5/ ==Louth== Fergus O'Dowd/FG/30/ Gerry Adams/SF/26/ Gerlad Nash/Lab/21/ Seamus Kirk/FF/13/ M Dearey/GP/7/ T Clare/Ind/4/ ==Donegal South West== Pearse Doherty/SF/37/ Mary Coughlan/FF/19/ Dinny McGinley/FG/19/ Thomas Pringle/Ind/15/ Frank McBrearty/Lab/7/ John Duffy/GP/3/ ==Donegal North East== Joe McHugh/FG/31/ Padraig MacLochlainn/SF/28 Charlie McConalogue/FF/14 Jimmy Harte/Lab/13/ Dessie Shiels/Ind/12/ Humphrey Murphy/GP/2/ ==Longford/Westmeath== James Bannon/FG/37/ Willie Penrose/Lab/29/ Robert Troy/FF/16/ Paul Hogan/SF/11/ Kevin Moran/Ind/5/ Siobhan Kinahan/GP/2/ Event 26th January Martin Becomes Leader Of Fianna Fail Martin Profile:3 Spin:+1 Power:3 Leadership Notes I have the demo of PM Forever UK 2010 but won't get the full game until August so if someone else could finish the job. All of the votes of the party are given to the candidate that got the most first preferences in the constituency at the real election. Great thanks, I've been working on a CF version. This will help out big time! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
European Qoheleth (SANC) 32 Report post Posted June 3, 2011 You're welcome. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 I'll get the 2011 scenario done sometime, I swear. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites