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Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin?

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Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin?

Yes. Wikipedia says this:

A north-south division has traditionally existed in Dublin for some time, with the dividing line being the River Liffey. The Northside is traditionally seen by some as working-class (with the exception of a few suburbs) while the Southside is seen as middle and upper middle class (again, with the exception of a few suburbs).

This is an exaggeration; each side has plenty of rich and poor areas. The reason for the stereotype is that the Southside has the very richest parts of Ireland (almost all the "elites" live there). Similarly, the Northside has the very poorest urban areas. The very poorest areas of Ireland are in rural counties like Laois or Donegal. But the fact that it's an urban area creates problems like heroin addiction that aren't as common in rural areas.

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Is there is a big socio-economic difference between North Dublin and South Dublin?

Roddy Doyle put it best;

The Oirish are the Blacks of Europe

The Dubliners are the Blacks of Oireland

The Northsoiders are the Blacks of Dublin

So say it clearly.....

Oim Black and Oim Proud

[The Committments]

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OK, this is great because, round about Ireland 1918 and the 1920's is the ideal period i wanted to see come to fruition on here, whether through me or somebody else. The elections were alot more interesting back then, but i'm sure 1987 will be good too.

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My Ireland 1918 scenario is on the back burner.

Tis the old issues problem and getting round to it.

If anyone else fancies completing it, let me know.

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Here is what I have for Ireland 2002 so far:

PARTIES:

Fianna Fáil

Fine Gael

Labour

Progressive Democrats

Green

Sinn Féin

Socialist

Independent Health

@issues

Abortion

Childcare

Corruption

Defence Forces

Drugs

Economy

Education

Environment

Europe

Government

Healthcare

Immigration

Industrial Policy

Infrastructure

Irish Language

Northern Ireland

Tax and Budget

Terrorism

@end

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To be frank with you, does the MMP or German electoral system could reflect STV elections in an approximate matter?

Could you please send it to me when finished as you know my e-mail.

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To be frank with you, does the MMP or German electoral system could reflect STV elections in an approximate matter?

Could you please send it to me when finished as you know my e-mail.

I think so.

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2002:

Childcare should have FF CR, FG C

Drugs should have FF CR

Economy should have FF CR, FG C, PD R

Europe should have Lab C, Soc L

Immigration should have FG CR

Infrastructure should have FF CR

Northern Ireland should have Soc CR

Relationships: FF-Lab 40, FF-Green 20, FF-SF 25, FF-Soc 15, FG-Lab 85

2007:

Abortion should have FG CR

Europe should have Green CL

Northern Ireland should have Soc CR

Relationships: FF-FG 20, FF-PD 75, FF-Green 40, FF-SF 40, FG-Lab 90, FG-PD 40, FG-Green 50, Lab-PD 10

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2002:

Childcare should have FF CR, FG C

Drugs should have FF CR

Economy should have FF CR, FG C, PD R

Europe should have Lab C, Soc L

Immigration should have FG CR

Infrastructure should have FF CR

Northern Ireland should have Soc CR

Relationships: FF-Lab 40, FF-Green 20, FF-SF 25, FF-Soc 15, FG-Lab 85

2007:

Abortion should have FG CR

Europe should have Green CL

Northern Ireland should have Soc CR

Relationships: FF-FG 20, FF-PD 75, FF-Green 40, FF-SF 40, FG-Lab 90, FG-PD 40, FG-Green 50, Lab-PD 10

Made all the changes. Would you like to work on the 2011 election scenario together?

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I'm working on 2011 at the moment.

State 1 (Dublin)

State 2 South and East

State 3 Border,Midlands and West

Starts 15th January

Ends 25th February

FF:14%

FG:35%

Lab:21%

GP:4%

SF:14%

Ind:12%

Party Platforms

Fianna Fail Fine Gael Labour Green Sinn Fein Independant

Voting Age Right (Keep at 18) Centre-Right (17) Right Centrist Centrist Centrist

Sitting Days Centrist (Same) Centre-Left (40% Up) Left Left Centrist Centrist

Voting System Centre-Left (Reform) Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Left Centrist

Education Spending Right (No increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centre-Left Centrist

Private Patients Right (In Public Beds) Right Centre-Left (Not) Left Left Centrist

Mandatory Health Insurance Centre-Left (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist

Work While Seeking Asylum Centre-Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist

EU Regulate Working Week Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist

NPRF For Other Purposes Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Centrist

Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No Increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Centrist

Water Metreing Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist

Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No) Centre-Left Left Right Centrist

Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Left (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Centrist

Nationalised Water Company Right (No) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Left Centrist

Tax And Spending Right (75% Cuts,25% Taxes) Centre-Right (62% Cuts,38% Taxes) Centre-Left Centrist Left Centrist

Spending Cuts Right Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centrist

EU/IMF Bailout Package Centre-Left (Renegotiate) Centre-Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Left Centre-Left

Default On EU/IMF Loan Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centrist

Regional Centres

Dublin South and East Border,Midlands and West

Voting Age Left Centrist Centrist

Sitting Days Left Centre-Left Centre-Left

Voting System Left Centre-Left Centre-Left

Education Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Private Patients Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Mandatory Health Insurance Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Work While Seeking Asylum Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

EU Regulate Working Week Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

NPRF For Other Purposes Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Water Metreing Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Nationalised Water Company Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Tax And Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Spending Cuts Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

EU/IMF Bailout Package Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Default On EU/IMF Loan Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Leadership

Charisma

Integrity

Stamina

Experience

Debating

Issue Familiarity

Funds

How Established Party

Home Region

Age

Martin

4

3

2

3

5

3

3

10,000,000

5

South and East

50

Kenny

4

1

3

3

4

3

3

8,000,000

5

Border,Midlands and West

60

Gilmore

3

2

3

3

4

3

3

4,000,000

5

Dublin

56

Gormley

3

3

2

3

3

3

3

6,000,000

2

Dublin

51

Adams

3

3

2

3

5

3

3

2,000,000

5

Border,Midlands and West

62

Blaney

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

500,000

1

Dublin

Unknown

Name/Party/%/

43 Seats (Not Finished Yet,17 or so to go)

Dublin

12 Seats

==Dublin North==

James Reilly/FG/30/

Brendan Ryan/Lab/28/

Clare Daly/Ind/20/

Darragh O'Brien/FF/12/

Trevor Sargent/GP/10/

==Dublin North East==

Tommy Broughan/Lab/36/

Terence Flanaghan/FG/28/

Larry O'Toole/SF/16/

Averil Power/FF/8/

Eamonn Blaney/Ind/8/

David Healy/GP/4/

==Dublin West==

Joan Burton/Lab/31/

Leo Varadkar/FG/26/

Joe Higgins/Ind/16/

Brian Lenihan/FF/14/

Paul Donnelly/SF/10/

Roderic O'Gorman/GP/3/

==Dublin North West==

Roisin Shortall/Lab/45/

Dessie Ellis/SF/26/

Gerry Breen/FG/16/

Pat Carey/FF/9/

Ruairi Holohan/GP/3/

Andrew Keegan/Ind/1/

==Dublin North Central==

Richard Bruton/FG/37/

Aodhan O'Riordan/Lab/24/

Finian McGrath/Ind/17/

Sean Haughey/FF/10/

Helen McCormack/SF/9/

Donna Clooney/GP/3/

==Dublin Central==

Joe Costello/Lab/30/

Paschal Donohoe/FG/20/

Maureen O'Sullivan/Ind/17/

Mary Lou Mc Donald/SF/17/

Mary Fitzpatrick/FF/12/

Phil Kearney/GP/4/

==Dublin Mid West==

Joanna Tuffy/Lab/33/

Frances Fitzgerald/FG/30/

Eoin O'Broin/SF/16/

John Curran/FF/14/

Paul Gogarty/GP/7/

Gino Kenny/Ind/0/

==Dublin South Central==

Eric Byrne/Lab/37/

Catherine Byrne/FG/23/

Joan Collins/Ind/13/

Aengus O'Snodaigh/SF/17/

M Mulcahy/FF/6/

O O hAlmhain/GP/4/

==Dublin South East==

Lucinda Creighton/FG/34/

Ruairi Quinn/Lab/27/

Paul Sommerville/Ind/14/

John Gormley/GP/9/

Chris Andrews/FF/8/

Ruadhan MacAodhain/SF/8/

==Dublin South West==

Pat Rabbitte/Lab/38/

Brian Hayes/FG/27/

Sean Crowe/SF/21/

Charlie O'Connor/FF/8/

Mick Murphy/Ind/4/

Francis Duffy/GP/3/

==Dublin South==

Olivia Mitchell/FG/35

Shane Ross/Ind/22/

Alex White/Lab/20/

Eamon Ryan/GP/9/

Sorcha Nic Cormaic/SF/7

Maria Corrigan/FF/6/

==Dun Laoghaire==

Sean Barrett/FG/34/

Eamon Gilmore/Lab/32/

Richard Boyd Barrett/Ind/13/

Mary Hanfain/FF/12/

Ciaran Cuffe/GP/6/

South and East

17 Seats

==Cork South West==

Jim Daly/FG/47/

Denis O'Donovan/FF/21/

Michael McCarthy/Lab/16/

Paul Hayes/SF/11/

John Kearney/Ind/1/

Kevin McCaughey/4/

==Cork North West==

Michael Creed/FG/48/

Michael Moynihan/FF/22/

Martin Coughlan/Lab/16/

Des O'Grady/SF/11/

Mark Collins/GP/3/

Ann Foley/Ind/0/

==Limerick==

Dan Neville/FG/48/

James Heffernan/Lab/20/

Niall Collins/FF/18/

John Dillon/Ind/9/

Stephen Wall/GP/3/

==Tipperary North==

Michael Lowry/Ind/30/

Noel Coonan/FG/23/

Alan Kelly/Lab/22/

Maire Hoctor/FF/13/

Seamus Morris/SF/10/

Olwyn O'Malley/GP/3/

Border,Midlands and West

13 seats

==Sligo/North Leitrim==

John Perry/FG/36/

Eamon Scanlan/FF/22/

Michael Colreavy/SF/17/

Declan Bree/Ind/14/

Susan O'Keefe/Lab/12/

Johnny Gogan/GP/3/

==Cavan/Monaghan==

Joe O'Reilly/FG/39/

Caoimhin O'Caolain/SF/30/

Brendan Smith/FF/17/

Seamus Treanor/Ind/5/

==Louth==

Fergus O'Dowd/FG/30/

Gerry Adams/SF/26/

Gerlad Nash/Lab/21/

Seamus Kirk/FF/13/

M Dearey/GP/7/

T Clare/Ind/4/

==Donegal South West==

Pearse Doherty/SF/37/

Mary Coughlan/FF/19/

Dinny McGinley/FG/19/

Thomas Pringle/Ind/15/

Frank McBrearty/Lab/7/

John Duffy/GP/3/

==Donegal North East==

Joe McHugh/FG/31/

Padraig MacLochlainn/SF/28

Charlie McConalogue/FF/14

Jimmy Harte/Lab/13/

Dessie Shiels/Ind/12/

Humphrey Murphy/GP/2/

==Longford/Westmeath==

James Bannon/FG/37/

Willie Penrose/Lab/29/

Robert Troy/FF/16/

Paul Hogan/SF/11/

Kevin Moran/Ind/5/

Siobhan Kinahan/GP/2/

Event

26th January

Martin Becomes Leader Of Fianna Fail

Martin Profile:3 Spin:+1 Power:3 Leadership

Notes

I have the demo of PM Forever UK 2010 but won't get the full game until August so if someone else could finish the job. All of the votes of the party are given to the candidate that got the most first preferences in the constituency at the real election.

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I'm working on 2011 at the moment.

State 1 (Dublin)

State 2 South and East

State 3 Border,Midlands and West

Starts 15th January

Ends 25th February

FF:14%

FG:35%

Lab:21%

GP:4%

SF:14%

Ind:12%

Party Platforms

Fianna Fail Fine Gael Labour Green Sinn Fein Independant

Voting Age Right (Keep at 18) Centre-Right (17) Right Centrist Centrist Centrist

Sitting Days Centrist (Same) Centre-Left (40% Up) Left Left Centrist Centrist

Voting System Centre-Left (Reform) Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Left Centrist

Education Spending Right (No increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centre-Left Centrist

Private Patients Right (In Public Beds) Right Centre-Left (Not) Left Left Centrist

Mandatory Health Insurance Centre-Left (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist

Work While Seeking Asylum Centre-Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist

EU Regulate Working Week Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Left Centrist

NPRF For Other Purposes Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Left Centrist

Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No Increase) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Centrist

Water Metreing Right (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Left Left Centrist

Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right (No) Centre-Left Left Right Centrist

Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Left (Yes) Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Centrist

Nationalised Water Company Right (No) Centre-Left Centre-Right Right Left Centrist

Tax And Spending Right (75% Cuts,25% Taxes) Centre-Right (62% Cuts,38% Taxes) Centre-Left Centrist Left Centrist

Spending Cuts Right Centre-Right Centre-Left Centre-Right Left Centrist

EU/IMF Bailout Package Centre-Left (Renegotiate) Centre-Left Centre-Left Centre-Left Left Centre-Left

Default On EU/IMF Loan Right (No) Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centre-Right Centrist

Regional Centres

Dublin South and East Border,Midlands and West

Voting Age Left Centrist Centrist

Sitting Days Left Centre-Left Centre-Left

Voting System Left Centre-Left Centre-Left

Education Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Private Patients Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Mandatory Health Insurance Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Work While Seeking Asylum Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

EU Regulate Working Week Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

NPRF For Other Purposes Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Income Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Water Metreing Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Property Tax Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Tax On Fuel Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Nationalised Water Company Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Tax And Spending Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Spending Cuts Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

EU/IMF Bailout Package Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Default On EU/IMF Loan Centrist Centre-Right Centre-Left

Leadership

Charisma

Integrity

Stamina

Experience

Debating

Issue Familiarity

Funds

How Established Party

Home Region

Age

Martin

4

3

2

3

5

3

3

10,000,000

5

South and East

50

Kenny

4

1

3

3

4

3

3

8,000,000

5

Border,Midlands and West

60

Gilmore

3

2

3

3

4

3

3

4,000,000

5

Dublin

56

Gormley

3

3

2

3

3

3

3

6,000,000

2

Dublin

51

Adams

3

3

2

3

5

3

3

2,000,000

5

Border,Midlands and West

62

Blaney

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

500,000

1

Dublin

Unknown

Name/Party/%/

43 Seats (Not Finished Yet,17 or so to go)

Dublin

12 Seats

==Dublin North==

James Reilly/FG/30/

Brendan Ryan/Lab/28/

Clare Daly/Ind/20/

Darragh O'Brien/FF/12/

Trevor Sargent/GP/10/

==Dublin North East==

Tommy Broughan/Lab/36/

Terence Flanaghan/FG/28/

Larry O'Toole/SF/16/

Averil Power/FF/8/

Eamonn Blaney/Ind/8/

David Healy/GP/4/

==Dublin West==

Joan Burton/Lab/31/

Leo Varadkar/FG/26/

Joe Higgins/Ind/16/

Brian Lenihan/FF/14/

Paul Donnelly/SF/10/

Roderic O'Gorman/GP/3/

==Dublin North West==

Roisin Shortall/Lab/45/

Dessie Ellis/SF/26/

Gerry Breen/FG/16/

Pat Carey/FF/9/

Ruairi Holohan/GP/3/

Andrew Keegan/Ind/1/

==Dublin North Central==

Richard Bruton/FG/37/

Aodhan O'Riordan/Lab/24/

Finian McGrath/Ind/17/

Sean Haughey/FF/10/

Helen McCormack/SF/9/

Donna Clooney/GP/3/

==Dublin Central==

Joe Costello/Lab/30/

Paschal Donohoe/FG/20/

Maureen O'Sullivan/Ind/17/

Mary Lou Mc Donald/SF/17/

Mary Fitzpatrick/FF/12/

Phil Kearney/GP/4/

==Dublin Mid West==

Joanna Tuffy/Lab/33/

Frances Fitzgerald/FG/30/

Eoin O'Broin/SF/16/

John Curran/FF/14/

Paul Gogarty/GP/7/

Gino Kenny/Ind/0/

==Dublin South Central==

Eric Byrne/Lab/37/

Catherine Byrne/FG/23/

Joan Collins/Ind/13/

Aengus O'Snodaigh/SF/17/

M Mulcahy/FF/6/

O O hAlmhain/GP/4/

==Dublin South East==

Lucinda Creighton/FG/34/

Ruairi Quinn/Lab/27/

Paul Sommerville/Ind/14/

John Gormley/GP/9/

Chris Andrews/FF/8/

Ruadhan MacAodhain/SF/8/

==Dublin South West==

Pat Rabbitte/Lab/38/

Brian Hayes/FG/27/

Sean Crowe/SF/21/

Charlie O'Connor/FF/8/

Mick Murphy/Ind/4/

Francis Duffy/GP/3/

==Dublin South==

Olivia Mitchell/FG/35

Shane Ross/Ind/22/

Alex White/Lab/20/

Eamon Ryan/GP/9/

Sorcha Nic Cormaic/SF/7

Maria Corrigan/FF/6/

==Dun Laoghaire==

Sean Barrett/FG/34/

Eamon Gilmore/Lab/32/

Richard Boyd Barrett/Ind/13/

Mary Hanfain/FF/12/

Ciaran Cuffe/GP/6/

South and East

17 Seats

==Cork South West==

Jim Daly/FG/47/

Denis O'Donovan/FF/21/

Michael McCarthy/Lab/16/

Paul Hayes/SF/11/

John Kearney/Ind/1/

Kevin McCaughey/4/

==Cork North West==

Michael Creed/FG/48/

Michael Moynihan/FF/22/

Martin Coughlan/Lab/16/

Des O'Grady/SF/11/

Mark Collins/GP/3/

Ann Foley/Ind/0/

==Limerick==

Dan Neville/FG/48/

James Heffernan/Lab/20/

Niall Collins/FF/18/

John Dillon/Ind/9/

Stephen Wall/GP/3/

==Tipperary North==

Michael Lowry/Ind/30/

Noel Coonan/FG/23/

Alan Kelly/Lab/22/

Maire Hoctor/FF/13/

Seamus Morris/SF/10/

Olwyn O'Malley/GP/3/

Border,Midlands and West

13 seats

==Sligo/North Leitrim==

John Perry/FG/36/

Eamon Scanlan/FF/22/

Michael Colreavy/SF/17/

Declan Bree/Ind/14/

Susan O'Keefe/Lab/12/

Johnny Gogan/GP/3/

==Cavan/Monaghan==

Joe O'Reilly/FG/39/

Caoimhin O'Caolain/SF/30/

Brendan Smith/FF/17/

Seamus Treanor/Ind/5/

==Louth==

Fergus O'Dowd/FG/30/

Gerry Adams/SF/26/

Gerlad Nash/Lab/21/

Seamus Kirk/FF/13/

M Dearey/GP/7/

T Clare/Ind/4/

==Donegal South West==

Pearse Doherty/SF/37/

Mary Coughlan/FF/19/

Dinny McGinley/FG/19/

Thomas Pringle/Ind/15/

Frank McBrearty/Lab/7/

John Duffy/GP/3/

==Donegal North East==

Joe McHugh/FG/31/

Padraig MacLochlainn/SF/28

Charlie McConalogue/FF/14

Jimmy Harte/Lab/13/

Dessie Shiels/Ind/12/

Humphrey Murphy/GP/2/

==Longford/Westmeath==

James Bannon/FG/37/

Willie Penrose/Lab/29/

Robert Troy/FF/16/

Paul Hogan/SF/11/

Kevin Moran/Ind/5/

Siobhan Kinahan/GP/2/

Event

26th January

Martin Becomes Leader Of Fianna Fail

Martin Profile:3 Spin:+1 Power:3 Leadership

Notes

I have the demo of PM Forever UK 2010 but won't get the full game until August so if someone else could finish the job. All of the votes of the party are given to the candidate that got the most first preferences in the constituency at the real election.

Great thanks, I've been working on a CF version. This will help out big time!

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