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Hey all,

Sorry I haven't gotten much done on scenarios recently. I just have been busy or uninterested.

Anyways, here is a list of ideas on the table:

Tokundi 2008 (PMF UK)- modification of Gaffney's scenario with an Oriental nation instead of a White one

Cartazed 2010 (CF)- A British-French-German nation a friend created. I Have most of it done but need to do ridings and regionalism

Dmowska 2010 (CF)- Starting on the prelimary elements of the scenario. It is a country that combines the USA rust belt with mid-war (1919-1939) Poland.

Klavencraft-Szerney (PMF or CF)- Haven't started yet

Scotland 2015 (CF)- want to work on it with Treasurer. Should be pretty easy.

Israel 2009 (Chancellor Forever)- I Require a map but should be pretty easy

Any others you guys interested in? I'll post a poll soon. But which one do you want to see first?

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I can do you an israel map when required. If there's any of your scenarios close to completion then focus on them first. For Scotland 2015, i'm still wanting 2 SNP's, what can i call them? There's the generic "SNP-Left" and "SNP-Right", or you can have the better sounding SSNP(Socialist SNP) & CSNP (Conservative SNP). Or SNP for the left and brand new name for the right wing SNP.

3 candidates for each for 5 main parties: This would include all current leaders but not neccessarily leaders by 2015, just alternative candidates. Goldie and Salmond will still be leaders for their prospective parties, the others no.

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Israel would be a fine addition for C4E especially if you can change the threshold in the new version.

However, how many parties would be preferable to have a minimum of realism without having too many fringe parties?

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Israel would be a fine addition for C4E especially if you can change the threshold in the new version.

However, how many parties would be preferable to have a minimum of realism without having too many fringe parties?

I'd go with 6-8. The problem with CF is the proportional system which can lead to fragmented votes.

Definately put these down:

Kadima

Likud

Labor

Yisrael Beitenu

Shas-UTJ

Hadash-United Arab List

National Union

Meretz

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I can do you an israel map when required. If there's any of your scenarios close to completion then focus on them first. For Scotland 2015, i'm still wanting 2 SNP's, what can i call them? There's the generic "SNP-Left" and "SNP-Right", or you can have the better sounding SSNP(Socialist SNP) & CSNP (Conservative SNP). Or SNP for the left and brand new name for the right wing SNP.

3 candidates for each for 5 main parties: This would include all current leaders but not neccessarily leaders by 2015, just alternative candidates. Goldie and Salmond will still be leaders for their prospective parties, the others no.

I think more likely the Conservative SNP would either join with the Labour or Liberal Democrats or possible the Conservatives.

I may also consider splitting the Conservatives into say...conservative SNPers and Unionists. Would you rather have that?

So the parties would be:

SNP

Conservative

Labour

Liberal Democrat

Green

Scottish Socialist

Unionist

English Rights Party

Any others?

I would figure Margo MacDonald would join the SNP since independence has been achieved.

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SNP will probably implodes between a right-wing party and a centre-left wing party.

If the SNP were to implode into Right and Left wing factions, the left wing faction would certainly not be Center-Left. The SNP was a committedly Socialist party until the last decade--and it still has some very strong Left-Wing, even revolutionary socialist, inclinations and movements within it.

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It depends how you see left, for me centre-left is more social democrat than anything else (I am canadian, so basically the NDP and maybe the PQ is considered social-democratic and more Old Labour than any other party).

It is very difficult to see a real tendency within the SNP since the 2000's. Basically, I think that the major part of their vote now comes from more rural areas and small towns, which have basically noting in common with the Glasgow and Edinburgh vote.

Also, another thing is that there are many people in rural areas in Scotland which are social conservatives which are economically left-wing. Don't forget that church attendance in sometimes high in some regions in Scotland.

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I'd go with 6-8. The problem with CF is the proportional system which can lead to fragmented votes.

Definately put these down:

Kadima

Likud

Labor

Yisrael Beitenu

Shas-UTJ

Hadash-United Arab List

National Union

Meretz

Just wondering if the level of participation in politics and party affiliation is high in Israel?

Also, are voters have a high volatility to change parties between elections?

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I'm going to hold off on Israel and work on Tokundi and Cartazed for the time being.

Alexandria Historical (1900) is also in the works.

So here is the final list for Scotland 2015:

SNP

Conservative

Labour

Liberal Democrat

Green

English Rights Party

Unionist

Scottish Socialist

Solidarity

Scottish Senior Citizens

Issues:

Abortion

Commonwealth

Council Tax Reform

Education

Environment

Europe

Family

Fishing

Jobs

Law and Order

Monarchy

NHS

Pensions

Privatisation

Tax and Budget

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I'm going to hold off on Israel and work on Tokundi and Cartazed for the time being.

Alexandria Historical (1900) is also in the works.

So here is the final list for Scotland 2015:

SNP

Conservative

Labour

Liberal Democrat

Green

English Rights Party

Unionist

Scottish Socialist

Solidarity

Scottish Senior Citizens

Issues:

Abortion

Commonwealth

Council Tax Reform

Education

Environment

Europe

Family

Fishing

Jobs

Law and Order

Monarchy

NHS

Pensions

Privatisation

Tax and Budget

Alexandra 1900 sounds good, enjoyed that series. Issues are fine and 3 spaces left for more. Thinking maybe Scotland/England relation or Home state relations (relations with all 3 former UK countries). Need to thinkk more on this.

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Is a Highland Regional Party possible for Scotland 2015?

Also, these are the possible coalitions:

SNP--Conservative

Conservative--Unionist

SNP--Labour

Labour--Lib Dems

Labour--Greens

Lib Dems--Greens

Scottish Socialist--Solidarity

Green--Solidarity

English Rights Party--Unionist

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Is a Highland Regional Party possible for Scotland 2015?

Also, these are the possible coalitions:

SNP--Conservative

SNP--Labour

Labour--Lib Dems

Labour--Greens

Lib Dems--Greens

Scottish Socialist--Solidarity

Green--Solidarity

English Rights Party--Unionist

No Conservative-Unionist coalition? I would imagine that, save for the Union, their policies would be broadly compatible. Just my 2 cents. :)

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Ok i'll play ball on this. You have the SNP while many of the right wing have defected to Labour, causing some SNP safe seats to become Labour. Along with the general unpopularity caused by the dysfunction and split in the SNP. What do you think about putting in a Highlands Rights Party and a Scottish National Front in as well GOP? Rural rights would be too similar to Highlands party. I'm thinking:

SNP - light yellow

Labour - red

Conservative - blue

Liberal Democrat - yellow

Green - green

SSP - pink

English Rights - red

Unionist - light-blue

Scottish National Front- dark-blue

Highland Rights (name change?)- orange

Independent- gray

I propose Highland party to stand in Highlands region along with the 3 neighbouring regions on our Scotland map. I don't want Solidarity in to fragment socialist vote, plus i think they may not exist by then. Proposal for Christian party and Scottish senior party would mean we have 13 partes. Would you all be happy with 13 parties or is that too many?

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Here are leaders of all RL Scottish parties with the exception of independent + alternative candidates. All current leaders are included, but not neccessarily the leader for 2015. This includes candidates who may be future leaders of the party based on how often they have appeared on TV coverage. Top candidate is "actual" leader of party.

Labour

Frank McAveety

Iain Gray

Cathy Jamieson

Alex Neil (SNP defector)

SNP

Alex Salmond

Nicola Sturgeon

John Swinney (Previous leader getting second chance?)

Conservative

Annabel Goldie

Derek Brownlee

Gavin Brown

Lib Dem

Ross Finnie

Tavish Scott

Liam McArthur

Green

Patrick Harvie

Robin Harper

SSP

Caroline Leckie

Colin Fox

Unionist

James Doughty (Can't find photo)

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I want to keep the parties at 10 (the current Scotland 2007 scenario).

From the parties i have listed, take out the National Front party, making it only 10, however:

SNP - light yellow

Labour - red

Conservative - blue

Liberal Democrat - yellow

Green - green

SSP - pink

English Rights - red

Unionist - light-blue

Highland Rights (name change?)- orange

Independent- gray

Would you like to see any replacements? Replacements for either Highland Rights or Unionist, or keep both?

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Added last 3 new issues, see if this is ok:

Economic Recovery

Former UK Relations

Oil Revenue

Abortion

Commonwealth

Council Tax Reform

Economic Recovery

Education

Environment

Europe

Family

Fishing

Former UK Relations

Jobs

Law and Order

Monarchy

NHS

Oil Revenue

Pensions

Privatisation

Tax and Budget

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Possible coalitions:

Labour

Liberal Democrat

Labour

Liberal Democrat

Green

SNP

Conservative

SNP

Liberal Democrat

SNP

Liberal Democrat

Green

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I like the Unionist Party idea, along with the Highlander Party. Independents may work, though I'd put Margo MacDonald in the SNP camp for 2015.

Abortion

Commonwealth

Council Tax Reform

Economic Recovery

Education

Environment

Europe

Family

Fishing

Former UK Relations

Jobs

Law and Order

Monarchy

NHS

Pensions

Privatisation

Tax and Budget

Transport

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Thanks GOP Progressive. I shall give credit to you on this as well as Matvail for the Highland Rights suggestion, and use your issues, as well as 10 parties only. I will include the Highland Rights Party and Unionist in coalitions too.

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Hey guys,

I kind of want to do some modifications to current scenarios that I've posted such as:

Kozakura 2009, Astaria 2010, and Rocentia 2010

Just some regionalism alterations. Any suggestions otherwise for those?

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