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This is being considered as a potential future project on my queue along with United States 1824. I will need a bit of help on issues and endorsers.

DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATES

-President Franklin Roosevelt of New York

-Former Assistant Secretary of War Henry Breckinridge of New York

-Senator Huey Long of Louisiana (Off by default; for alternate history)

REPUBLICAN PARTY CANDIDATES

-Governor Alf Landon of Kansas

-Senator William Borah of Idaho

-Owner and Publisher Frank Knox of Illinois

-County Attorney Earl Warren of California (Favourite Son)

-Governor Warren Green of South Dakota (Favourite Son)

-Mr. Stephen Day of Ohio (Favourite Son)

SHARE OUR WEALTH PARTY CANDIDATES (Off by default; for alternate history)

-Senator Huey Long of Louisiana (REALLY alternate history)

-Senator Burton Wheeler of Montana

-Senator William Borah of Idaho (only if turned off for GOP)

-Governor Floyd Olsen of Minnesota

UNION PARTY CANDIDATE

-Congressman William Lemke of North Dakota

SOCIALIST PARTY CANDIDATE

-Mr. Norman Thomas of New York

COMMUNIST PARTY CANDIDATE

-Mr. Earl Browder of Kansas

CHRISTIAN PARTY CANDIDATE

-Mr. William Pelley of Washington

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions or ideas.

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Love the idea, perfect for somebody as obsessed with Huey Long as me.

Just an idea for the Share Our Wealth Party, Hattie Caraway from Arkansas would be interesting. Huey Long was known to be a passionate supporter although she was fairly loyal to FDR and the New Deal.

Smedley Butler might be an interesting endorser, by this point the "Business Plot" would have been exposed, but he was known as one of the few pro-Roosevelt Republicans during 1932.

Al Smith had a long-standing rivalry with Roosevelt, and according to some sources had actually endorsed Landon in 1936.

That's all I can think of tonight, and I'd help but for some reason my copy of Campaigns Forever won't work at all.

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Love the idea, perfect for somebody as obsessed with Huey Long as me.

Just an idea for the Share Our Wealth Party, Hattie Caraway from Arkansas would be interesting. Huey Long was known to be a passionate supporter although she was fairly loyal to FDR and the New Deal.

Smedley Butler might be an interesting endorser, by this point the "Business Plot" would have been exposed, but he was known as one of the few pro-Roosevelt Republicans during 1932.

Al Smith had a long-standing rivalry with Roosevelt, and according to some sources had actually endorsed Landon in 1936.

That's all I can think of tonight, and I'd help but for some reason my copy of Campaigns Forever won't work at all.

Thanks for the interest!

I'm thinking maybe Caraway could be a Veep for the SOW Party, as none were actually stated.

In your opinion, if turned on, how strong should the SOW Party be at the start (both of the Primaries and GE), and where should they be strong?

The endorsers are good, too!

Any other ideas are welcome!

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Caraway as veep would be a good choice.

I'd put a lot of the SOW party's strength in the south as it would be a very populist party, meaning social conservative and fiscal liberal. I'm not sure exactly how powerful to make it, probably powerful enough that Huey Long on the ticket could win a few states, and the others could at least compete. I think their appeal in the midwest would be pretty decent too.

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You should have Huey Long as an option for the Democratic party primaries.

That was my first thought going into the idea, but I read that he and his supporters were FAR more likely to launch a credible 3rd Party challenge, with 'Share Our Wealth' as the going party name.

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That was my first thought going into the idea, but I read that he and his supporters were FAR more likely to launch a credible 3rd Party challenge, with 'Share Our Wealth' as the going party name.

Well I still think you should do what you are doing with Senator Borah, and have Long be an option for when Share Our Wealth is off.

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Well I still think you should do what you are doing with Senator Borah, and have Long be an option for when Share Our Wealth is off.

Oh, that's what you meant...

I had thought you meant instead of an SOW Party option. It's certainly worth considering in that case.

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Well I still think you should do what you are doing with Senator Borah, and have Long be an option for when Share Our Wealth is off.

Yes, I agree with this, keep long as both an off Democrat and as a SOW.

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I started some initial work on this one, working from Mrdie's United States 1932 scenario. I finished the Scenario section, the Issues section (which are very similar to 1932, but a few have been changed), the Political Units and Ads sections (barely touched, save fixing errors in two states' EV counts), and then edited the Democratic Party to my satisfaction (so far). BTW, does anyone have or know where to find Lemke's Union Party logo.

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I started some initial work on this one, working from Mrdie's United States 1932 scenario. I finished the Scenario section, the Issues section (which are very similar to 1932, but a few have been changed), the Political Units and Ads sections (barely touched, save fixing errors in two states' EV counts), and then edited the Democratic Party to my satisfaction (so far). BTW, does anyone have or know where to find Lemke's Union Party logo.

I searched for ya, but I just couldn't find one.

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Also, I was thinking about this, and I think that that if you make Huey the SOW canddidate, he should be stronger than the other party candidates would be in a general, and should probably carry or at least poll slightly higher than FDR in LA.

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Also, I was thinking about this, and I think that that if you make Huey the SOW canddidate, he should be stronger than the other party candidates would be in a general, and should probably carry or at least poll slightly higher than FDR in LA.

Louisiana would be SOLID Long, even against FDR. The people loved him there like no one else.

Oh, and with regards to the alternate history part of this scenario: Did Huey survive assassination, or was it never attempted? If he survived the bullet, it would only add to his reputation.

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Louisiana would be SOLID Long, even against FDR. The people loved him there like no one else.

Oh, and with regards to the alternate history part of this scenario: Did Huey survive assassination, or was it never attempted? If he survived the bullet, it would only add to his reputation.

Oh yes I agree, Red Dog and I are hardcore Huey aficionados, but it I didn't know how Patine would wish to take this. In reality, I would give Huey LA by wide margins, probably give him solid leads in a lot of the Solid Deep South like Arkansas especially, but definitely Mississippi, Alabama, etc. I'd make him more competitive in more eastern states like SC, Georgia and in Texas to the west, but nowhere near as solid, as the party bosses in those states were more conservative and more firmly anti-Long. I'd make him highly competaitive throughout the midwest where he's appeal was great, and definitely in Michigan.

And on your point, I agree that had he survived it would have made his reputation much stronger, but it would probably be more realistic if it hadn't been attempted, because many historians believe that it wasn't actually the "assassin's" bullet that killed him, some argue the man in question didn't even fire, but instead it was an accidental bullet from one of the bodyguards. So had the bodyguards not fired, it could be very likely he wouldn't have died in the first place.

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Coughlin was big in Michigan, but only among Catholics. Michigan would certainly be for him, I think, but not simply because of Father Coughlin--disaffected union strikers would put him over the top, plus a black population just beginning to emerge.

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I searched for ya, but I just couldn't find one.

That's too bad. I wonder if someone could just whip up a big 'U' on the default grid background. That'd be greatly appreciated.

Louisiana would be SOLID Long, even against FDR. The people loved him there like no one else.

Oh, and with regards to the alternate history part of this scenario: Did Huey survive assassination, or was it never attempted? If he survived the bullet, it would only add to his reputation.

I had initially thought of him surviving assassination, as opposed to it never being attempted. I'll have to consider carefully.

Coughlin was big in Michigan, but only among Catholics. Michigan would certainly be for him, I think, but not simply because of Father Coughlin--disaffected union strikers would put him over the top, plus a black population just beginning to emerge.

I plan Louisiana and Michigan to be very strongly Long if he's turned on, and the rest of the Deep South and Midwest also strongly leaning toward him, but not by as much.

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Does anyone know where I can find accurate delegate counts for the 1936 Democratic and Republican National Conventions, and dates for their primares, caucuses, and state conventions? I found this:

http://politicalgraveyard.com/parties/D/1936/index.html

http://politicalgraveyard.com/parties/R/1936/index.html

the same people dwkulcsar found for his United States 1956 and complained about incompletion, and I've found the same incompletion. Can anyone offer any advice to find this information?

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