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Mardogne 1886

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As it might take some time before a Belgium 2007/2003/1999 scenario is undertaken I'll start by creating a fictional 19th century scenario.

SITUATION

Mardogne is located in the southern Alsace and the Northern Bourgogne area. Its population consists of a French Majority (85%) and a notable German minority (15%) in the east. The north of the country is the industrial centre while the south is an agrarian undeveloped region.

HISTORY

1848: Following a gulf of revolutions all over Europe an alliance of Liberals and Catholics frees the country of German occupation and create the Republic of Mardogne. The president has virtually no power and the premier and his government are the real leaders of the country.

There is only one party: the Liberal-Catholic Alliance which wins 97% of the vote in the first elections.

1848-1857: The country is led by Catholic premier Gustave LeCordonnier

1857-1865: Moderate Liberal premier Stephane Lardonne leads the country

1865-1883: Heinrich von Gumpf (no clear party affiliation) is premier

1883-1886: Liberal premier François Du Charlôt leads an increasingly displeased coalition.

7th February 1886: The catholics in the Assemblée refuse to vote a Freedom Of Faith act that would allow other religions than the Catholic one to operate schools.

12th July 1886: For the first time in the history of Mardogne open elections will take place.

REGIONS

1. Côtes De Salvon: 3 seats. Rural region in the deep South. catholic stronghold

2. Niedersalfz: 4 seats. Rural seat with German Majority in Southeast. Catholic dominance

3. Compté De Mardogne: 11 seats Mardognan hearthland with some industry, Southwest. Catholic advantage

4. Marzin-Ville: 8 seats. Capital, densely inhabited with most industry of the entire south. Between Niedersalf, Compté de M and Leonge. solid Liberal

5. Leonge: 11 seats. mix of agrarian and industrial economy with notable German minority, Northeast, BATTLEGROUND

6. Plat-d'Olonge:16 seats, heavily industrialized, Nortwest, Liberal dominance

7. Ardun: 14 seats, heavily industrialized, North, Liberal stronghold

TOTAL SEATS: 67

PARTIES AND LEADERS

Liberal Coalition

Liberal Party Centrist

premier François Du Charlôt

The candidate of the haute bourgeoisie, Du Charlôt is loathed by catholics and workers alike but absolutely adored by bankers,engineers,...

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 4

Charisma: 2

Debate:: 3

How established: 5

Money: 7.500.000 FM (Francs Mardogniens)

seats in current parliament: 23

Radical Liberal Party Centre-left

Minister Marcel Cavallon

Cavallon represents a wing of the liberal party for whom current emancipation is not enough. He fights for better living and working circumstances.

Leadership: 2

Integrity: 4

Experience: 4

Charisma: 3

Debate : 3

How established: 4

Money: 3.000.000 FM

seats in current parliament: 14

TOTAL SEATS: 37

Catholic Coalition

Conservative Catholics Centre-right to right

Minister Grégoire Nuhotin

A gifted orator as well as a fierce conservative, Nuhotin is seen as the man that brought down the Coalition. But many of his views are extremist and some doubt whether he can be a competent premier.

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 2

Experience: 4

Charisma: 4

Debate: 5

How established:5

Money: 5.000.000 FM

seats in current parliament:21

Liberal-/Social-Catholics Centre-left

Minister Samuel Lache

Lache represents catholics who believe that improving living circumstances can be done from within the Catholic Party.

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 3

Experience: 3

Charisma: 3

Debate: 2

How established party: 4

Money: 3.000.000 FM

seats in current parliament: 9

TOTAL SEATS: 30

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Liking the sound of this one! Seems it will be very competitive between all 4 parties, so will all issues be based on fictional events or use some real event from the time?

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So what are the major issues? I'm not sure about an election in the 19th century, as they weren't anywhere near as democratic or open as the ones today- but perhaps it'll be interesting. Why not set the scenario today?

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I have done some thinking and I might also put in a Christian-Democratic party led by a radical priest, a socialist one, and an independent candidate, all of which might win a seat.

I'm not sure about an election in the 19th century, as they weren't anywhere near as democratic or open as the ones today- but perhaps it'll be interesting. Why not set the scenario today?

The whole point is to make it a 19th century election with a turnout of only 5% (to reflect the effect of the tolls one had to pay to be enabled to vote) and parties and issues of the time.

Issues will include:

Working Week

Unions and Mutualities

Development of the South

Germany

France

Electoral reform

Education (see timeline)

Religion and secularity

Child Labor

Working Circumstances and wages

Capitalism

The ideas of Marx (not sure about this one)

...

I am also interested in any potential events from the time you can dig up.

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This is a rough map of it. Tell if you like it, if you want any regions larger or smaller, or completely different.

Mardogne.jpg

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OK, region 4's southern extension is cut, although region 1 is now larger. Anything else?

Mardogne-1.jpg

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Here are my suggestions for issues:

Issues

Agriculture

Development of South

Economy

Education

Electoral Reform

French Alliance

German Relations

Industry

Language

Marxism

Military?

National Bank

Presidential Powers

Religious Rights

Scramble for Africa?

Tax Reform (Income Tax vs Tariff)

Trade Unions

Working Conditions

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The map looks great.

As to the issues:

I'd make Economy, Industry and Agriculture inro one Industry vs. Agriculture issue.

I'd add Secularism and child labor (in addition to the working conditions issue).

I'd replace Scramble for Africa with a colony (they could have one, given that even we managed to get hold of Congo)

Any ideas for a name?

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The map looks great.

As to the issues:

I'd make Economy, Industry and Agriculture inro one Industry vs. Agriculture issue.

I'd add Secularism and child labor (in addition to the working conditions issue).

I'd replace Scramble for Africa with a colony (they could have one, given that even we managed to get hold of Congo)

Any ideas for a name?

Nyarai would be a good name for the colony ;).

Child Labour

Church and State

Economy

Education

Electoral Reform

French Alliance

German Relations

Industrial Development

Language

Marxism

National Bank

Nyarai

Presidential Powers

Religious Rights

South Mardogne

Tax Reform (Income Tax vs Tariff)

Trade Unions

Working Conditions

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I've picked this up again after my holiday.

But when I try to open the scenario in the constituency editor, it tells me that 'socialist' is not a valid entry value after which it doubles the regions present in the scenario. How do I solve this?

(please note that I haven't finished all other parts of the scenario)

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Grosso modo, est-ce que Mardogne a la même situation démographique qu'en Belgique?

(Basically, is Mardogne having the same democraphic situation than current Belgium?)

Slightly less complicated but the general idea is the same.

The political situation is also based on that of 19th century Belgium since that's the only one I have a sound grasp on.

And thanks for the initiative of using French, but since I'm Flemish using English will be just fine.

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Here is the idea for updating it in 2009:

PARTIES:

Christian Conservative

Social Democratic

Green-Ecologist

Républicain Modéré

National Democratic

ISSUES

Afghanistan

Asylum and Immigration

Balanced Budget

Crime and Terrorism

Economy

Education

Europe

Environment

Federalism

Healthcare

Jobs

Language

Moral Values

Privatisation

Smoking Ban

Social Security

Tax Reform

Turkey

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PARTY LEADERS:

CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE: Jean Martin, Horst Rheinmann

SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC: Henri Lefavbre, Achille Vanderveld

MODERATE REPUBLICAN: Edith Bachelot

GREEN-ECOLOGIST: Brigette Schmidt

NATIONALIST BLOC: Klaus Guderian

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Perhaps increase the number of seats by 20 as population has grown. Let's say the Conservative voting German minority has grown somewhat, and they have a firm grip in the south, with Moderate Republican as the main competition,and now Conservatives doing well against the social democratic in the northeast region. SD would well in most other regions. Greens could have a decent share with the high Liberal vote in the past. The Bloc, not too sure, it really depends if this country has grown to be wealthy or has remained working class.

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Question: What should we call the county around the capital of Marzin-Ville, which I have separated to split the country into 8 regions instead of 7?

German has the term "(city name) Land" for such a thing, indicating the territory around that city (I noticed this used extensively for constituency names in my Austria scenario). Does French have and equivalent term?

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