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  1. It was an interview - only the second he gave since retiring as Speaker (the first mostly dealing with how relieved he was not to be Speaker anymore, his complete lack of desire to return to politics, and how his wife and he had never had a more enjoyable marriage and lives since they were first married after college). The second one (the one I'm referring) I believe was early this year, but I didn't bookmark it at the time, so it might take several days to find again.
  2. Trump's point of view of exactly when he considered the "scales to tip" would have been his own personal judgement, and might not be where I would set it. But it seems there was such a point. Plus, Trump's greatest talent in life, better than as a businessman, better than as a "wheeler-dealer," and certainly better than as a politician, is being a showman - you can clearly see that as far back as the '80's. Thus, like a good actor is, he is almost certainly very difficult to read and predict just from a judgement at the time, attempting standard Machiavellian reading of character accurately. Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders, by comparison, practically wear their motivations on their sleeves (note, that is a relative and comparative statement). However, NOT being a politician or knowledgeable or competent or experienced in politics, his ACTUAL campaign would logically be much harder for him to disguise that way - unless one were of the sort who was susceptible to populism and cults of personality, or whose desire for "outside change" caused them not to carefully scrutinize his campaign.
  3. When he surprised himself and started winning, despite that not being his original goal, or even (seemingly) desire. But that shift seems to have been caused by ego more than a newfound true desire or passion. Or so Boehner says, as he says Trump laid out his plans to him at a golf game. And Boehner seems to lack a true motivation (or imagination) to concoct such a story up out of pure, spiteful sabotage.
  4. Yes. And it struck me as vapid, hollow, vitriolic, uniformed, wish-fulfillment empty populism even then. And that was before I heard Boehner and others speak on this issue. I'm not generally impressed by empty populism targeting feelings, gut urges, fears, and hopes as opposed to rational, reasoned, sensible, and practical presentations of realistic platforms, regardless of whose doing them (and the world today has a resurgence of those styles of campaigns across many nations not previously seen - in terms of campaign style and presentation) since the '20' to '50's.
  5. I'm still not convinced Trump was genuine or sincere. I still firmly think (as does John Boehner and a number of others) that him entering the 2015 Republican Primary race (despite having been a member of the Reform Party only two years previously) was a publicity stunt meant to distract from his ousting from "the Apprentice" and the "Miss America" and "Miss Universe" beauty pageants and on-the-horizon lawsuits coming over the hill over the fraudulent Trump University, and that he didn't ever expect to win, but to turn the run into a PR vehicle for the future (according to Boehner, he actually promised Melania specifically that'd she never have to live in the White House). His campaign is obviously the same showmanship and flamboyance he's been well-known for since the '80's, and his lack of real knowledge of issues and real solutions, but instead nebulously worded catch phrases, highly-generalized, unrealistic campaign promises, and veiled threats at political opponents, foreign nations, and whole demographics, was the substance of his campaign if you actually pay attention. However, it would seem (and again, Boehner and a number of others believe this too - I'm not alone) he gained much more traction than he expected, even surprising himself, but his ego, narcissism, and arrogance wouldn't allow him any avenue to bow out of a job he didn't really seem to want, and a piss poor candidate for. Now, we see his phoned-in, flip-flopping Presidency and his inexplicable, odd-bedfellows, revolving door Cabinet as evidence of this.
  6. Patine

    The FCC and text messages

    I think so, but a lot of people (not just the filthy rich, shareholders and proprietors of big corporations, high-level corporate manager and agents, and bribed and corrupted lawmakers by corporate lobbies, but actual workers and consumers being exploited, cheated, and taken advantage of thoroughly, inexplicably) believe corporate deregulation and their ability to do as they please, ignore laws binding common citizens, paying far less taxes proportionately, and getting away with all manners of dirty, deceitful, unethical, and even death-causing activities, even getting governments to fight wars solely for their enrichment, and these people have come to believe (or are taught or pressured to believe) that any rules, regulations, or restrictions away from this situation at all will create economic collapse and chaos, or will instantly become outright hard Socialism, or even complete Communism.
  7. I don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I don't believe there's an obvious better. Although, in almost all cases, I'm personally loathe to suggest such a thing I believe in terms of 2020, assuming Trump is re-nominated, the best course of actions for most Democratic candidates who could be nominated would be a negative campaign (as in the classical usage of the term - that is, attacking one's opponent as a focus over - but not in exclusion - to promoting one's own platform and virtues - not referring to a campaign of negative subject matter, issue stances, tenor, and grim outlook and prognosis, of course). This may, in fact, in the current political and social zeitgeist, be the most pragmatic and strategic campaign style in 2020, especially if more criminal charges against Trump and his cronies come up, and the repercussions of Trump's arbitrary trade wars come back to hit American consumers hard on the prices of their favourite goods and commodities, both of which have very reasonable chances of occurring. As former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney (who actually made one of the eulogies at George H.W. Bush's funeral) famously said, "In politics, you need two things, friends, yes, certainly, but most of all, you need an enemy."
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    The FCC and text messages

    Yes, but here's the difference. Government - at least in theory, in First World Nations, if things are working at least a modicum or semblance of how they should - is bound by their national Constitutions (which in First World nations tend to restrict their power of legal overreach immensely - compared to Communist, Fascist, Theocratic, Militarist, tin-pot despotism, corrupt emerging Constitutional, and old-style Feudal, Monarchial, and Tribal governments) and by the limits of the upcoming ballot-box. Internationally-operating, mega-corporations, especially as they stand are today, and with the power and influence they wield and how they wield it, de facto do not suffer from those limitations, or any REAL analogously equally limiting ones.
  9. Patine

    The FCC and text messages

    I suppose @NYrepublican must be fully satisfied with these two answers and have found them completely to his acceptance, given his almost four-day lack of a response.
  10. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Well, I, for one, have no interest in further wading into, and subjecting myself to, this quagmire. Whatever @vcczar or any other poster wish to do is their decision. I am done with this thread, formally. I am making no concessions of any points-of-view I've stated, recognitions of any points I've debated against having merit, nor making (nor asking for) any apologies. I am just exiting this thread (I wish this forum allowed threads to be put on ignore like posters can be).
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    Coin Flip Election

    You might as well just have the drawing of lots for Archons from the Athenian Democracy in this case.
  12. Patine

    I'm Back

    You're becoming like a hip-hop/pop store. Long absences broken by "comeback" albums where "being back" or "returning to the fans" or such are a major part of album titles, song titles, and song lyrics within. Actually, though I won't things are entirely and totally banal and dull, things have definitely calmed down from the fiery debate and rhetoric (of which, I certainly admit, I had a big hand in) of last you were here.
  13. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Oh, I wasn't quite clear that's what Presidentinsertname was actually referring to. For some reason, I thought he was trying to say something else.
  14. Patine

    Defeating other party leaders

    Where did you get that scenario from, and when did New Zealand start calling it's apex executive government office "President?"
  15. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Your insistence that "nothing ever changes" is either delusional or nihilistic, but you refused to really back up that point of view except with lame non-answers.
  16. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    I tried that first. You can scroll up and check. You responded with idiotic, unthought-out, ridiculous, and almost taunting responses.
  17. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Thank-you for nailing my point forth even more firmly for me.
  18. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Your posting style always leave the least illusion and makes it all the more blatantly obvious it's being typed by a teenager among all the remaining, commonly-posting teenage posters here. The rest, even ones I often disagree with on many issues, at least sound educated, erudite, and with above average intellectual expression. You give no such impression.
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    The FCC and text messages

    It's the power of the corporate lobby and the bribery of lawmakers by them (now legal in the U.S., thanks to the treasonous and seditious Supreme Court Ruling Citizen's United, as I've brought up before, which probably involved bribery of justices at some level itself). Corporations are rapidly becoming more powerful, de facto, than national government, even the U.S. government. The overt and undisguised corporate dictatorship sub-genre of the Dystopian Science Fiction genre, most popular and relevant when I was growing up in the '80's, seems less and less far-fetched as time quickly goes on.
  20. Say, have you at all looked at my notes for my fictional hypothetical near-future series of scenarios I've devoted several different threads to going into?
  21. I thought "Valentino" was a reference to the silent-movie-era romantic male lead actor. Mind, "Demon Taka," is also quite atypical of the style of usernames used here, too. I have seen several previous users change their username, so I know it CAN be done - I'm just not sure EXACTLY how.
  22. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Reagan was nothing like Trump as a President. You're just faithfully and unquestioning parroting Trump's own arrogant, egotistical, and high-inaccurate self-comparisons to Reagan for his own self-promotion and self-aggrandizement. Reagan, as much as I disagree with most of his policies, was statesmanlike, dignified, witty, eloquent, and a clever debater and worked well for political compromise with political opposition, spoke as someone who knew what he was talking about, and was always coherent (at least while in office - I am certain that Alzheimer's tragically quickly destroyed all of that afterward ). Trump is NONE of those qualities at all, and I have my serious personal doubts about whether or not he would have had Reagan's personal respect in his political career.
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    George H. W. Bush has died.

    Ah, @Presidentinsertname, your absence has mad you no less clueless and out of touch than before, with just as semi-coherent and semi-nonsensical answers. Thank-you for your contribution to the conversation - jarring, irrelevant, and off-key as I remember all your old ones being.
  24. Patine

    Is political compass Left Biased?

    Like I said, the traditional view of the political spectrum is obsolete.
  25. Patine

    George H. W. Bush has died.

    No, I quoted, and was responding to, @ThePotatoWalrus.
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