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  1. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Leech: The fact that the north is so obsessed over n****ers is so truly upsetting. I have never been to a plantation where slaves are treated unfair; we give them homes, we feed them, and we usually don't overwork them. The majority of us are not bad people, and its a shame those people of the north who sit at home after their factory jobs can try to dictate the lives of the people that produce a lot of what their factories use. Wesley: This is truly upsetting; the fact that a simple compromise could not be meant is simply disgusting.
  2. The Status of Gott-Stein (1494) 11th Sconlair: Cassius Augustus Marlborough 4rd Vice-Sconlair: Theodore Abner Country Stability: Disaster Popularity: 72%; The current Sconlair has kept the country alive, but has not been successful with everything. However, people are optimistic. -Decision 1: The rebel leaders agree to sit down with the Sconlair, and with what the Sconlair stated propose the following peace terms: 1. Three council seats. 2. Their leader be made Governor of the Frontier, and have partial autonomy over the rural regions of Scottsville. 3. That the previous Sconlair be put on trial for his seemingly purposeful actions to tear the country apart. The Sconlair accepted these demands. -Decision 2: The fishermen do cast their nets, but without anybody to distribute the food, the fishermen abuse their power by only feeding people if they get some form of benefit. It seems the Government was too trusting in its People's goodwill. -Decision 3: N/A -Special Event: N/A -Policy 1: This will be proposed as B.022, but with three instead of one seat. -Policy 2: See decision 1. -Policy 3: This was seen by the population as a great maneuver to secure Government finances. Cities: Scottsville (3,279) Rural Dwellers: 101 (+35) Island Exploration: 38.4% (+0%) Population: 3,380 (20+195) people. -Additional Notes: Current immigration policies include land, housing, and later more land. Economy: Non-Existent; The economy is completely gone still, even though there is some hope of economic gain. Trade: Non-Existent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Electoral Makeup Electoral System: Council; Thirteen Members are apart of this council, with elections every 5 years. ----------------------------------------- Population Values Independent: 41% Nativist: 0% Conservative: 16% Traditional: 15% Growth: 28% ----------------------------------------- Council (1489-1494) Independent: 7 [-2] Growth: 6 [+2] (Richard Brown and five others) Conservative: 0 [0] Traditional: 0 [0] Nativist: 0 [0] ---------------------------------- Active Legislation B.001: Tie-Breaking policy; Senior Councilman takes over for half a term. B.002: Jungle Cutting policy; 23 pixels a year. B.003: Originally thought to have failed, a kind reminder of the Constitution made clear it would have passed. Also, B.005 was a motion to pass B.003, which also passed. B.003 gives incentives to immigrants by giving one pixel of land away per 5025 immigrants. B.004: For every child past the secondborn that a family raises past the age of five years old, the family will receive increasing tax reliefs and will receive preferential settlement in the newly conquered areas outside of our community. (Even though taxes do not exist) B.005: A motion to pass B.003, even though a technicality later discovered proved this pointless. B.006: Amended B.002 to 3 pixels a year. B.007: The Government will pre-build homes to encourage immigration and growth. B.008: Cuts B.003's immigrant number from 50 to 25. B.009: Creates a permanent exploration team. B.010: All references to taxes will be honored if taxes are ever created. B.012: There shall exist a voluntary disaster relief fund. B.013: A Vice-Sconlair, with only the role as a successor, shall be created and put on the electoral ticket of the Sconlair. B.014: Creates the Ministries of Public Works and Sanitation, as well as creates a permanent public works workforce. Repealed by B.019 B.015: Creates the Postal Ministry. B.016: Creates the Gott-Stein Judiciary Court. B.017: Creation of the Development Minister. B.018: Creation of the Seminole Ferry. B.019: Repeal of B.014. B.021: Creation of an Independent Electoral Commission, Secret Ballots, and Mainstream Party Registration. B.022: Adding three seats to the council, only to be elected by rural Scottsville voters. ---------------------------------- Constitution Article I: The Sconclair The Sconclair is to be elected head of Gott-Stein, and he shall be the most powerful force in the government. He is elected to 10 year terms with no term limits, and he has the power to introduce legislation into the Council for debate and voting. Not only may he vote on all legislation with three votes, but in the case of a Council vote tie, he shall be the decider with an additional vote. Additionally, the Sconclair is to have a small band of armed warriors to protect him if the need arises, and they shall serve as the first warriors of Gott-Stein. The Sconclair is unable to be booted out of office in any way before the end of his term, and upon his resignation the Senior Councilor will take rulership. The Sconclair is to be in charge of foreign affairs, and he has complete control over any warrior bands that are raised. He is to have complete control over trade, and has the power to raise a personal tax. The Sconclair also has the power to strike down legislation that is passed within the Council, forcing a recast of votes that must equal or surpass 3/4 to take effect. Article II: The Council The Council is a thirteen member body of legislators that has the power to enact city wide legislation changes regarding domestic economy, taxation, and security. The Council is led by the Senior Councilor, who is the representative of the dominant voice in the Council. The Council may not pass any law that limits the reach of authority of the Sconclair. Councilmen are elected to 5 year, renewable terms. The number of councilmen shall increase as seen fit, but shall not increase for a period of (20) years. All current Congressional members shall be immediately be declared councilmen, and the remaining five councilmen will be appointed by the Sconclair until the end of his term. Article III: Elections The Sconclair is to be elected every 10 years beginning from the end of the current Sconclair's term, which will prompt a new election. Any landed male may declare candidacy for office, and upon garnering sufficient support will officially enter the ballot. The incumbent Sconclair cannot be barred from the ballot for any reason with the exception of a declination to serve. Upon receiving a plurality of votes, a candidate will be declared Sconclair and take office one month after the date of the election. Councilmen are to declare candidacy for a council seat, seats one through thirteen. Upon garnering sufficient support, they may have their name added to one seats election only and upon receiving a plurality of votes will be declared councilman. Article IV: Governmental Obligations The government of Gott-Stein is to provide a foundation for its members to live and thrive. ---------------------------------- Original Post So I had this idea last night after seeing that all the roleplayers here are not involved in a huge RP, and that only one or two people are in @vcczar's at a time. I've been a part and even hosted RPs on here before, and the main thing that seems to both turn the rp master and the players away from the RP is when things get incoherently complex. Basically, if it starts out complicated, it lacks interest. Now, my idea: a growing campaign. What would happen is that I create a country, but only the very basic outline of a country, and flop it right in the middle of the atlantic ocean. Don't ask me how it happened, but it happened. The goal of the RP would be players creating their own parties, possibly working together later in the campaign to build a party, and then me simulating elections based on both probability and the current appeal of the country. What makes this different? The country is literally a barren wasteland in the beginning, only consisting of the people running for the Presidency. Every term of the Presidency, the President gets to introduce or change 3 new ideas to the country. For example, the first president can introduce taxes, a military, and housing ideas, while the next President can add more ideas like healthcare, etc. The goal is that after a few terms, this roleplay will turn into a fully functioning country where players take sides on key issues to form this country. The limitations? 1. It must stay a democracy; removing elections would end the point of the roleplay. 2. Don't be unreasonably hostile to others or to the status of the RP. Now, joining is simple: just give a name, maybe a background, run as an independent or create a party. Since there is no policy or people in this barren country, the way you will be elected is by pure luck. As soon as four people join I will start the first election, and you guys will get the first taste of how the RP will go. The goal is to be simple, and grow to a complexity that everyone can understand.
  3. Kingthero

    Presidential Growth Campaign

    I doubt there is enough interest to continue this; it was a nice idea, but seemed to get repetitive very quickly.
  4. Kingthero

    1900 to - Playthrough

    Funny enough my great grandfather worked for Hoover for decades and retired a few months before Hoover's death.
  5. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    @vcczar assume last platform stands, and since war over focus on trade and forming alliance with prussia
  6. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    John Wesley endorses Morris for the American Progress Ticket if he runs again, will run if Morris chooses not to Henry Leech, a Virginia Conservative Senator, runs for the Republican Ticket National Strength: A combination of southern slavery and northern industry will propel this country to great prosperity. Military Strength: We shall aim to build on our navy, as our main threats are now overseas. Foreign Affairs: We should seek an alliance with Prussia. Military: See military strength. Economy: We shall use our two economies together instead of apart to bring one union, our union, into prosperity. Trade: We should seek to expand trade immediately. Budget: It should be our priority to pay off the debt as soon as possible. Social Harmony: States have the right to secede; however, seceding over an issue as pathetic as slavery is selfish. I am pro-slavery, as a grand majority of us treat our slaves well and are moral about it. If the new england states want to secede because they hate slaves, good luck. Immigration: We should open immigration to expand our settlements in the west. Mood of the people: Its time to choose a side; I am pro-slavery, but also am not for treating slaves poorly. If we were to convince the population that slaves being treated badly is rare, than perhaps tensions would dissipate. However, if new england wants to secede, than so be it. Popularity of the Incumbent: Pres. Morris is highly appreciated for making President Henry's war successful, but its time for new leadership. Party Power: Republicans are the smallest party, but I hope to bring our message to be more appealing to a lot of middle ground states.
  7. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Wesley Congratulates Morris on Electoral Victory Never would I thought we would get an incumbent president to defect to our party, but I do respect that Morris have given our party something special: a second president. We are no longer just a cult of Henry; rather, we are truly the party of expansion in all regards.
  8. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Governor Baron Brown Runs for the States Rights Party State: Mississippi Platform: WE GOTTA EXPAND SLAVERY AND KILL ABOLITIONISTS! WE HAVE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BAN IMMIGRATION UNLESS WE HAVE A RULE FOR INDENTURED SERVITUDE ABOLISH UNIVERSAL WHITE MALE SUFFRAGE MAKE SLAVES COUNT AS ONE WHOLE PERSON TO EXPAND OUR VOTES FIGHT THE PUNY ANTI SLAVERY ROYALISTS IF THEY DARE SECEDE USE STATE MILITIAS TO MAKE FLORIDA AND KANSAS SLAVE HAVEN!!! I AM BARON BROWN AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE SOUTH AND AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
  9. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Name and position: Senator John Wesley Residential state: New York Party: Progress Platform: National Strength: Continue Former President Henry's interactive foreign policy and hold the position as the biggest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Military Strength: Keep the military at realistic levels as to combat all threats bordering our country. Foreign Affairs: Finish the War in Mexico and continue to expand the United States. Military: Same as above Economy: Use the war to employ the laborers of the North in order to establish America's arms industry. Trade: Deal with our limited trade as we have now, but expand it after the war to make our war industries stay relevant and provide arms abroad. Budget: Maintaining a stable budget is key to growth. Social Harmony: Continue to denounce the radical extremists of all sides, and secretly hope that they kill eachother off before one side gets too powerful. Immigration: Once the war is over, analyze which positions are available and open immigration to those Irish and Germans with special skills. Also, set up immigration so that the Irish and Germans are allowed to populate the western frontier. Mood of the people: Try to grow unity among the people of our nation, as that is a key issue of the American Progress Party. Popularity of the Incumbent: As Wesley is a center party figure, use Morris's decisions and old party against him to pull through in the primary. Party Power: As John Wesley is the leader of the Party, and has maintained the Party successfully, the party is organized to make gains. Create a VP for a different party: Senator Al Richards of Massachusetts for the Liberty Party
  10. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Can I just give a moment to say #mexicogotcucked
  11. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Wesley continues to be a NY Senator After Election, Promises a Return Ashborne Richardson from Tennessee wins U.S. House Election 37 year old Richardson from Tennessee is among the youngest elected to the U.S. House from the State. He is a member of the American Progress Party, which is how he got his seat after the APP took Tennessee in the last election. Some say he one of the more progressive members of the party...
  12. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    For RP note: he is now 47.
  13. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Two Term Senator, Three Term Congressman, and other more local New York Offices holder John Wesley of the American Progress Party runs for office. Name and position: Senator John Wesley Residential state: New York Party: Progress Platform: National Strength: Continue Former President Henry's interactive foreign policy and hold the position as the biggest nation in the Western Hemisphere. Military Strength: Keep the military at realistic levels as to combat all threats bordering our country. Foreign Affairs: Secure a hopefully early peace in the Mexican War, hopefully securing California and Texas. Military: Work on the growing success of the army, and again mobilize our powerful Atlantic merchants to fight against the French navy in the Atlantic. Economy: Use the war to employ the laborers of the North in order to establish America's arms industry. Trade: Deal with our limited trade as we have now, but expand it after the war to make our war industries stay relevant and provide arms abroad. Budget: Maintaining a stable budget is key to growth. Social Harmony: Continue to oversee the Florida conflict, and hopefully see a gradual end to the individual conflict. Does not like slavery, but will not force the States to abolish it as that poses an enormous risk to national unity. Immigration: Organize our current immigration flow, and then deal with the issue when times are less conflicted. Mood of the people: Try to grow unity among the people of our nation, as that is a key issue of the American Progress Party. Party Power: As John Wesley is the leader of the Party, and has maintained the Party successfully, the party is organized to make gains. Create a VP for a different party: Governor Hickory Smith of Rhode Island for the Federalist Party
  14. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Yea I was just curious, because irl Tennessee was the last state to secede, and it was a close vote, so I was wondering how inner politics were working. It is interesting to see that in our timeline we kinda pushed the south more south.
  15. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    @vcczar I'd like to throw in that Tennessee was usually apart of the middle U.S until the last 2 or 3 terms. What happened? Also daily reminder that my deal with the British is literally one of the most amazing deals of all time, especially since they are even offering to extend it after I did the massive pre-pay thing. I had to brag I miss Henry lol
  16. Kingthero

    Presidential Growth Campaign

    If he isn't back by June 19th I'll continue this.
  17. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Godfrey Henry catches Typhoid after Visit to Florida, Health on Decline "...I was ready to lead a war, but it looks like Florida ended up finishing me. I severely worry of a House Divided..." Two term NY Senator John Wesley Takes over Party, Gives an Address days after Morris takes the Oath of Office I regret to inform you all that due to our former President's typhoid fever, and the fact that he is no longer until doctoral care due to losing the office of the Presidency, Godfrey Henry has passed away in the year 1849. @Conservative Elector 2 official death date The American Progress Party stands for Unity and Growth, and under Henry the economy was growing, territory was gained, and sadly unity was at peril; however, we shall progress into the future maintaining the values of Growth and pushing for a unity that may be achieved one day.
  18. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Henry will run again, but will not run again when out of a state of war. Name and office: President Godfrey Henry Residential State: Tennessee Party (Federalist, Progress, or Republican): Progress Platform--(see the bolded parts of the State of the Union above for major issues): Aims to keep the peace in domestic issues, and aims to use the Mexican War as a uniting issue among Americans. While barely hanging on to the middle ground in slavery, Henry has kept the economy strong, and will continue to do so. VP character (must be for a different party from this presidential candidate): Keep the same guy.
  19. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    While I respect the Supreme Court's decision as any wise man should, I publicly denounce Florida's monopoly of their Government. When the pro-slavery activists arrive at the White House, I explain to them that now that the Supreme Court has decided on the matter, I can not use any presidential authority to go against the ruling of the case. I inform them that they should focus on expanding slavery in the west, especially with our future expansion. The deal will remain secret, and I officially present the declaration of war on Mexico to the Legislature, using the casus belli that they are monopolizing a resource that is actually originating from our land, noting that rivers flow from our territory into theirs that have gold. Also spin certain western indian attacks as Mexican attacks on our settlers, trespassing of territory, etc. If the war does pass congress, the ultimatum to Mexico is that if they share their gold rights and cede all western lands including and north of Mexican Texas, that we will promise not to carry out anymore violence for a period of 25 years. If the ultimatum fails, commence the war immediately. If the ultimatum succeeds, the war will not happen. If war happens, I shall use the strategy I posted before, But also take full advantage of the British deal by pre-paying militias and soldiers in advance during the first year, and for the production of military supplies. This would end up making the British pay more, but since they only have to pay for a years worth of it, and we would have to still continue maintenance, and the British would get gold rights, it would not anger the British much as the war is technically decreasing the influence of its european enemies. The goal of this war is to be fast, and if the Mexicans will accept peace in which we take all irl western states in Mexican control, we will end the war. Also, we would still be open to giving the Mexicans a small amount of gold rights, and work out a 50 year peace agreement in order to make the early peace deal worth it.
  20. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    I address the military presence, but I will address it again. America, we now have three groups of people killing eachother in Florida. We have the original inhabitants, which thought it would be so kind to de-legitimize the Government by pulling some sketchy and possibly illegal loopholes to determining their legislation, as they have not had a legitimate election. I throw their passage of laws to the supreme court, noting that they have no democratic authority to change laws. As for the other two groups, you know who you are, and you better stop killing eachother over a State that is pretty much just a symbol of your cause.
  21. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    The Henry Administration reduces the military presence in Florida to 2,500 soldiers and 4 warships to continually mediate the Florida crisis, and begins the mobilization of the rest of the army and militias, works to formalize a treaty with Britain in which they will pay for a substantial amount of the war effort, not declare war and fight, in return of gold rights, and presents Mexico with an ultimatum that if they do not give us California in exchange for fair gold rights, than the U.S army will launch a full scale invasion of Mexico. Strategies: Utilize warships to cut off Mexican trade, as well as use smaller boats to cut off Mexican troops from crossing the Rio Grande river. Utilize two main armies, sending one down from Oregon to clear out Mexican resistance and secure the gold mines, and the other to push and then guard the land east of the Pacific west of the Rio Grande. The militia forces, once mobilized, will be split up to reinforce the armies in potential battles and possibly flank enemy positions by surprise. Also, use part of the militia to garrison Oregon to "defend against enemies". Utilize the ability to combine Prussian tactics with American guerilla warfare to strangle enemy supply lines and launch surprise attacks. A declaration of war is not presented to Congress yet, but will be once Great Britain's response to our request for financial aid is acted upon in one form or fashion.
  22. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    New York Senator John Wesley of the APP Begins Gaining Influence President Henry has been serving our country for the past two decades to one degree or another, and soon it will be time for a successor of the APP presidential candidate. I am going to be working with Progress leaders all across the nation in hopes that I can become the clear successor to our President.
  23. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    1) Bleeding Florida The Henry Administration, already enraged at the violence going on in Florida, appropriates 5,000 troops and 6 warships of the army to force free elections to go on in the region. Violence on American soil in the name of politics is not something to tolerate. 2) Expansionist Dreams The focus of expansion will be to the west. We will send scouts and explorers to specify which western moves would be the most cost-efficient and least costly on lives to expand into. 3) Abolitionists vs. Slaveholders elsewhere. The Henry Administration denounces the violence between the pro and anti slavery forces, noting that Bleeding Florida has already been an embarrassment to their cause. 4) Tariff and tax and national debt The current economic composition is fine; in the past, the South already have exceptions and other economic incentives that the North does not. 5) Banking The bank shall stay in its current form. Yet again, if there is a proposal that is better for everyone, than I will look into it. 6) Southern Internal Improvements The Federal Government will now play hardball. If the South does not want improvements, than all internal improvements in the South will be abandoned. This will save the Federal Government money, result in a quicker debt repayal, and if the States say they can handle it, lets watch them try! 7) Indians attack settlers in Oregon Territory Send more of the frontier army towards Oregon and California. 😎 Gold in Mexican California Take it on with the International Community, especially the powers of Great Britain and Prussia, that France and Mexico are hoarding the gold on disputed territory between the United States and Mexico. If the international community helps arbitrate the conflict, than they shall also get rights to the gold. The U.S. Government however wants control of the land that the international community would get their share of gold from. 9) Wisconsin statehood Wisconsin should become a State, as a Free State. There is no point in obstructing State creation that will lead to a stronger America. 10) Women's Rights White women deserve the right to vote in my opinion, but it seems highly unlikely for the House and Senate to push it through.
  24. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Henry Gives Victory Speech This election was the first election in a while to be a single issue election. And sadly, I fear it won't be the last. The Republican Party supports the institution of a Slave State by swarming pro-slave supporters into the region. The Federalist Party supports the institution of a Free State by swarming anti-slave supporters into the region. What gives these parties the right to sponsor two sides of bloodshed? I am honored that the American People chose to re-election me, because that shows that the American People are not going to fall and sponsor one side of the bloodshed. We shall see together, as Americans, the outcome of this occasion, and hope to focus on topics that can lead our country to great growth.
  25. Kingthero

    New Historical President RP

    Fair enough. I did see the possibility of a form of bleeding Kansas, but roleplay wise it takes the focus off of other more divisive matters and puts it in a situation where I can put blame on others and not on my own acts. I'm always curious to see how the dice roll.
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